Thread: How to WILD

Originally Posted by fOrceez

You'll find that if you lay down right now and close your eyes, you will see brief patterns, whether they just look like shadows in darkness, or a white light (as long as there's not a huge light glare at you, like the sun or a bright light), I would call that HI.

I never see anything when I close my eyes.

Originally Posted by Chevaughn

I never see anything when I close my eyes.

I'm the same way, however I don't know if you're supposed to physically be seeing it in front of you, or be more like a day dream. You know those moments where you're day dreaming and you imagine this crazy world only to come to the sudden realization: "...was I always staring at this wall?". When I daydream I don't actually see the stuff infront of my eyes but supposedly I can see it where the 3rd eye normally is.

I could be wrong though, maybe we are supposed to see some sort of physical imagery where the back of our eyelids are and I'm just failing at it hard.

Originally Posted by Chevaughn

I never see anything when I close my eyes.

It's not supposed to come immediately. HI usually sets in when SP sets it, sometimes later, sometimes earlier. Experiment with your SP.
@Firebat : It varies. Sometimes you see the beginning of a dream scene, and it's like you're standing in a totally different place. Just keep at it, guys Not everyone gets strong HI like scenes. I know I don't, only when I'm really, really close to entering a dream, and with that said, most of the time I go straight into a dream without seeing that much HI at all.
As I've mentioned before, WILD requires so much dedication to get it right. I'm (hopefully) starting to perfect mine now, as I'm starting to understand what works for me. Hopefully I am, and if I do, i may update my dream journal about what i've found out.
By the way, have you two read Mzzkc's Why You Fail At WILDs? Some great stuff there.

Originally Posted by fOrceez

It's not supposed to come immediately. HI usually sets in when SP sets it, sometimes later, sometimes earlier. Experiment with your SP.

OK. Do you have any tips on falling asleep while focusing on the anchor? I find that when I am drifting off and remember my anchor, I get a sudden "shock" into awareness, and this makes me feel very aware. To me, it feels like it can either be one or the other; that is, falling asleep or focusing on my anchor.

Originally Posted by Chevaughn

OK. Do you have any tips on falling asleep while focusing on the anchor? I find that when I am drifting off and remember my anchor, I get a sudden "shock" into awareness, and this makes me feel very aware. To me, it feels like it can either be one or the other; that is, falling asleep or focusing on my anchor.

This is how I feel.

Originally Posted by Chevaughn

OK. Do you have any tips on falling asleep while focusing on the anchor? I find that when I am drifting off and remember my anchor, I get a sudden "shock" into awareness, and this makes me feel very aware. To me, it feels like it can either be one or the other; that is, falling asleep or focusing on my anchor.

Relax. Let SP do it's thing. Just relax further and further and further..
Like i said above, if you fall asleep really easily, make your WBTB time a little longer. If you find you're not falling asleep quickly, but you're falling asleep, you need to put more awareness into your anchor. Ontop of this, you need to find your sleep cycles. This will be for example, if you sleep at midnight and wake up at 6 (assuming your cycle is about 1.5 hours) then set your alarm to about 5:30, or however long you need to prepare yourself for the WILD. The aim of this is to be awake before REM finishes. Keep in mind you also have to WILD into REM.

Originally Posted by fOrceez

Relax. Let SP do it's thing. Just relax further and further and further..
Like i said above, if you fall asleep really easily, make your WBTB time a little longer. If you find you're not falling asleep quickly, but you're falling asleep, you need to put more awareness into your anchor. Ontop of this, you need to find your sleep cycles. This will be for example, if you sleep at midnight and wake up at 6 (assuming your cycle is about 1.5 hours) then set your alarm to about 5:30, or however long you need to prepare yourself for the WILD. The aim of this is to be awake before REM finishes. Keep in mind you also have to WILD into REM.

I have a problem with finding my sleep cycles; I do not know how long it takes me to fall asleep. Sometimes, it takes 30 minutes, 1 hour, or even 1 hour and 30 minutes (or more). As such, I do not know when to let my alarm clock go off (after the 4-6 hours of sleep).

Originally Posted by Chevaughn

I have a problem with finding my sleep cycles; I do not know how long it takes me to fall asleep. Sometimes, it takes 30 minutes, 1 hour, or even 1 hour and 30 minutes (or more). As such, I do not know when to let my alarm clock go off (after the 4-6 hours of sleep).

Before you go to sleep, drink a cup of water. Whatever time you wake up at is safe to assume that is after one of your REM periods. For example, i just woke up after 3.5 hours of sleep. So my first REM period is around after 2 hours of sleep and then my next REM period is approx. another 1.5 hours of sleep. If you wake up any time after 4 hours of sleep, you should attempt your WILD then.
Sorry about the loong awaited reply xD

Originally Posted by fOrceez

Before you go to sleep, drink a cup of water. Whatever time you wake up at is safe to assume that is after one of your REM periods. For example, i just woke up after 3.5 hours of sleep. So my first REM period is around after 2 hours of sleep and then my next REM period is approx. another 1.5 hours of sleep. If you wake up any time after 4 hours of sleep, you should attempt your WILD then.
Sorry about the loong awaited reply xD

No problem about the waiting.
Thanks for the tip.

Originally Posted by Chevaughn

I have a problem with finding my sleep cycles; I do not know how long it takes me to fall asleep. Sometimes, it takes 30 minutes, 1 hour, or even 1 hour and 30 minutes (or more). As such, I do not know when to let my alarm clock go off (after the 4-6 hours of sleep).

I have the same problem. Sometimes, it takes me an hour of tossing and turning even if I'm already so tired.

will be trying this tonight (: