instant ld?

**sand** · 08-13-2008 06:07 AM

first of all i would like to congratulate the owners of this site for thier years of dedication. I have seen this site grow and teach so many people. thank you. anyways i was wondering if anyone has done any research and found a 100% ld inducing method or if anyone is working on one?. stay safe stay free. SAND

**imj** · 08-13-2008 07:50 AM

Course it's possible. Just that it may be 100% for you but not another guy.

IMJ

**ChaybaChayba** · 08-13-2008 10:35 AM

You need daily practice. Dream journal + reality checks. Which requires discipline and time.

Or you could use a shortcut, Salvia Divinorum. Literally throws you instantly into an LD.

**berryman13** · 08-14-2008 07:50 PM

There's no method that is 100% for everyone, one may work for you all the time, but not someone else. The key is experimenting.

**mini0991** · 08-14-2008 07:52 PM

100% instantaneously is impossible, seeing that you have to sleep before dreaming.

However, what does come close is the good old WILD. Just master that and you can practically induce LDs at almost any time of the day.

**berryman13** · 08-14-2008 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by mini0991

100% instantaneously is impossible, seeing that you have to sleep before dreaming.

However, what does come close is the good old WILD. Just master that and you can practically induce LDs at almost any time of the day.

Yeah, but for most people it takes months, even years to practice until they finally learn to wild.

**mini0991** · 08-14-2008 08:04 PM

Well, just look at me, I only had one after 3 years of trying. It takes patience.

**Exdream** · 08-14-2008 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by mini0991

Well, just look at me, I only had one after 3 years of trying. It takes patience.

Looking at you're sig, sounds like you just made a breakthrough

**Sentaku** · 08-14-2008 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

Or you could use a shortcut, Salvia Divinorum. Literally throws you instantly into an LD.

Haha, this is true, but you don't exactly control it

**Robot_Butler** · 08-15-2008 12:04 AM

The supplement industry is making good headway. Nootropics are big business right now, and there are lots of promising things in development. Besides that, it all still takes work and chance. Too many things out of our control that can ruin an attempt. Brain chemistry, environmental factors, timing, ect.

**egizmo** · 08-15-2008 03:33 AM

wats "salvia divinorum"

**mini0991** · 08-15-2008 04:11 AM

Originally Posted by egizmo

wats "salvia divinorum"

Essentially, legal marijuana.

**Jamoca** · 08-15-2008 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by mini0991

Essentially, legal marijuana.

Not quite. I think its pretty different. It's dissociative, and more intense.

**h2hummerz** · 08-15-2008 03:14 PM

Man I've done Salvia. It has nothing to do with lucid dreaming so I don't even know why I have seen it pop up in threads lately. Two completely different things. LD is when you are dreaming but control it. Salvia just makes you trip balls and has you seeing things like this ===>

**egizmo** · 08-17-2008 06:17 AM

ahhh...

**Snowy Egypt** · 08-17-2008 06:24 AM

That drug is the STUPIDEST thing I've ever heard of.....honestly.

Nothing is 100% when it comes to inducing an LD, and I'd advise you now to not make any threads in the future that say, "100% LD method. It works!!!!" Members hate that.

Practice makes perfect, and the LDs that are had without help from any kind of drug or supplement are the most rewarding.

**egizmo** · 08-19-2008 05:33 AM

yes i hate that soooo much!!

**PenguinDreamer** · 08-20-2008 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by mini0991

Well, just look at me, I only had one after 3 years of trying. It takes patience.

I've had one without even trying, and i've had the vibrations part for the past few nights but i usually react to it which ruins it.

**sand** · 08-24-2008 04:42 AM

Originally Posted by Snowy Egypt

That drug is the STUPIDEST thing I've ever heard of.....honestly.

Nothing is 100% when it comes to inducing an LD, and I'd advise you now to not make any threads in the future that say, "100% LD method. It works!!!!" Members hate that.

Practice makes perfect, and the LDs that are had without help from any kind of drug or supplement are the most rewarding.

my bad im not too good with titles.

**sand** · 08-24-2008 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

The supplement industry is making good headway. Nootropics are big business right now, and there are lots of promising things in development. Besides that, it all still takes work and chance. Too many things out of our control that can ruin an attempt. Brain chemistry, environmental factors, timing, ect.

i completely agree. im wondering if anyone has done any research on sleep eeg and if they had found a way to determine when an ld has begun.

**sand** · 08-24-2008 04:53 AM

Originally Posted by h2hummerz

Man I've done Salvia. It has nothing to do with lucid dreaming so I don't even know why I have seen it pop up in threads lately. Two completely different things. LD is when you are dreaming but control it. Salvia just makes you trip balls and has you seeing things like this ===>

yeh salvia d extract x20 or higher frigs ya right up. not my style