Thread: We need clarity!! Basic concepts of WILD, DILD and MILD

Seems to be a lot of confusion on these things, so want to clear them up.

WILD, DILD and MILD are all terms coined by the famous lucid dream researcher Stephen Laberge.

WILD and DILD are types of lucid dreams.

MILD is a method for inducing lucid dreams.

So basically if you ever have a lucid dream it is ALWAYS either going to be a DILD (most common) or a WILD. These are the basic Lucid Dream types. You cant have any others, because you either are dreaming and become lucid (DILD) or you awake and take that lucidity with you into dreaming (WILD).

a DILD is a Dream Initiated Lucid Dream - Becoming lucid whilst in a dream (adding awareness to dreaming)

a WILD is a Wake Initiated Lucid Dream - Being awake and aware and then smoothly entering a dream without a break in awareness (adding dreaming to awareness)

I find if incredibly frustrating when people consider WILD and DILD to be techniques. That's why im posting this!

As for MILD, this stand for Mnemonic Induction of Lucid Dreaming
(notice in MILD the I stand for Induction not Initiated as it does in WILD and DILD... small point but very important. Also in WILD AND DILD the LD stand for Lucid Dream, in MILD it stands for Lucid dreaming. Same small point, but equally as important.)



As for DEILD, this is nothing to do with Laberge and it is not a recognised piece of researched lucid dreaming terminology. In fact it seems to be refered to often in a contradictory sense. It's certainly not a type of Lucid Dream (because all lucid dreams have to fall under the WILD or DILD terms) , SO those of you who say things like "i've had 3 wilds 5 dilds and 3 deilds" are getting confused... a deild is a method for inducing either a WILD OR A DILD and not a type of lucid dream.

So that means it is a method. From what i've read in this forum, it seems to be very close to the MILD technique. I'd be hard pressed to use the term DEILD as a seperate entity. It simply seems to be a watered down version of MILD used in the middle of the night having just woken from a dream and not moving.

Don't want to come across pedantic but we do need to be clear about the terms we are using and it is foolish to invent new terminology that confuses matters (such as DEILD) when you could simply explain it using previously existing terms.

Originally Posted by spaceexplorer

Seems to be a lot of confusion on these things, so want to clear them up.

WILD, DILD and MILD are all terms coined by the famous lucid dream researcher Stephen Laberge.

WILD and DILD are types of lucid dreams.

MILD is a method for inducing lucid dreams.

So basically if you ever have a lucid dream it is ALWAYS either going to be a DILD (most common) or a WILD. These are the basic Lucid Dream types. You cant have any others, because you either are dreaming and become lucid (DILD) or you awake and take that lucidity with you into dreaming (WILD).

a DILD is a Dream Initiated Lucid Dream - Becoming lucid whilst in a dream (adding awareness to dreaming)

a WILD is a Wake Initiated Lucid Dream - Being awake and aware and then smoothly entering a dream without a break in awareness (adding dreaming to awareness)

I find if incredibly frustrating when people consider WILD and DILD to be techniques. That's why im posting this!

As for MILD, this stand for Mnemonic Induction of Lucid Dreaming
(notice in MILD the I stand for Induction not Initiated as it does in WILD and DILD... small point but very important. Also in WILD AND DILD the LD stand for Lucid Dream, in MILD it stands for Lucid dreaming. Same small point, but equally as important.)



As for DEILD, this is nothing to do with Laberge and it is not a recognised piece of researched lucid dreaming terminology. In fact it seems to be refered to often in a contradictory sense. It's certainly not a type of Lucid Dream (because all lucid dreams have to fall under the WILD or DILD terms) , SO those of you who say things like "i've had 3 wilds 5 dilds and 3 deilds" are getting confused... a deild is a method for inducing either a WILD OR A DILD and not a type of lucid dream.

So that means it is a method. From what i've read in this forum, it seems to be very close to the MILD technique. I'd be hard pressed to use the term DEILD as a seperate entity. It simply seems to be a watered down version of MILD used in the middle of the night having just woken from a dream and not moving.

Don't want to come across pedantic but we do need to be clear about the terms we are using and it is foolish to invent new terminology that confuses matters (such as DEILD) when you could simply explain it using previously existing terms.

Omg I found a smart person Make more clarifications please Alot of people tend to be misinformed on stuff, like LD sex waking them up. That's merely a placebo effect.

Indeed...more clarifications would be nice. I am a newbie here, so it would be a great help. And since "LD sex wakes one up" is a placebo effect..alright, I don't have to be worried about doing it in LDs because it won't wake me. As for DEILD, isn't that more of a WILD induction than a DILD induction? Anyways...Sweet thread, thanks!

Correct Batman.
Although personally i don't think DEILD really should be seen as a method in its own right. It exists purely as an idea in this forum and is not recognised as a technique in the literature and research field of lucid dreaming.

If anything it is a Lucid dreaming HINT or TIP.
The premise of not moving when you wake from a dream is common knowledge in Lucid Dream publications. In all cases it is refered to as a handy tip to help improve your chances. I think it should stay that way. We really don't need Hints and Tips trying to become methods in thier own right.

DEILD to me is just a rewording of this common known lucidity tip, trying to pass itself off as a fully fledged method. If we start doing this for every handy hint and tip, we'll end up with so many "methods" that it'll become a minefield and complete mess.

Best thing i can suggest is read all the major publications on Lucid Dreaming, and use google, wiki etc to become aware of the established methods.

It's too easy in a forum like this to create our own little culture with our own made up terminology. Best be in line with the rest of the world and the field of lucid dreaming research as it stands for everyone (not just the members of this forum)

Deild isn´t recognised like a technic, but like a Wild variation.

One important reason for connecting WILDs and OBEs is that they share
phenomenological features. The experience of vibrations, strange noises,
electrical sensations, feelings of weight on the chest and difficulty
breathing, and floating -- sometimes with the sensation of peeling out
of the body are common to both. The primary intent of this NightLight
experiment was to see whether these sensations could be deliberately
evoked by attempting to initiate WILDs, and if so to find their
frequency of occurrence. Another purpose was to compare methods of WILD
induction.The procedure was carried out in the context of attempts to
re-enter dreams, under the assumption that the best time to directly
enter the REM state is immediately after having awakened from it.

Source: http://www.lucidity.com/NL42.1001Nights.html

I thinks this confirms that, Deild it´s a old teory that DV people give it the name "Deild". Some people even dare to say that created Deild...

I always thought there was one kind of lucid dream... the lucid kind.

Originally Posted by spaceexplorer

Seems to be a lot of confusion on these things, so want to clear them up.

WILD, DILD and MILD are all terms coined by the famous lucid dream researcher Stephen Laberge.

WILD and DILD are types of lucid dreams.

MILD is a method for inducing lucid dreams.

So basically if you ever have a lucid dream it is ALWAYS either going to be a DILD (most common) or a WILD. These are the basic Lucid Dream types. You cant have any others, because you either are dreaming and become lucid (DILD) or you awake and take that lucidity with you into dreaming (WILD).

a DILD is a Dream Initiated Lucid Dream - Becoming lucid whilst in a dream (adding awareness to dreaming)

a WILD is a Wake Initiated Lucid Dream - Being awake and aware and then smoothly entering a dream without a break in awareness (adding dreaming to awareness)

I find if incredibly frustrating when people consider WILD and DILD to be techniques. That's why im posting this!

As for MILD, this stand for Mnemonic Induction of Lucid Dreaming
(notice in MILD the I stand for Induction not Initiated as it does in WILD and DILD... small point but very important. Also in WILD AND DILD the LD stand for Lucid Dream, in MILD it stands for Lucid dreaming. Same small point, but equally as important.)



As for DEILD, this is nothing to do with Laberge and it is not a recognised piece of researched lucid dreaming terminology. In fact it seems to be refered to often in a contradictory sense. It's certainly not a type of Lucid Dream (because all lucid dreams have to fall under the WILD or DILD terms) , SO those of you who say things like "i've had 3 wilds 5 dilds and 3 deilds" are getting confused... a deild is a method for inducing either a WILD OR A DILD and not a type of lucid dream.

So that means it is a method. From what i've read in this forum, it seems to be very close to the MILD technique. I'd be hard pressed to use the term DEILD as a seperate entity. It simply seems to be a watered down version of MILD used in the middle of the night having just woken from a dream and not moving.

Don't want to come across pedantic but we do need to be clear about the terms we are using and it is foolish to invent new terminology that confuses matters (such as DEILD) when you could simply explain it using previously existing terms.

That simplifies things....thanks man!

thankyou, I have been getting confused!

so Taylor no WILDS huh? Try it its awesome its an experiance you won't forget ever.

what is a DEILD. I have always considered I've had x wild x dild and have gotten into a dild x amounts of time by mild and x amounts of time by rcild I agree your either awake than enter a dream aware or asleep than aware there is no middle ground.

DEILD, Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream, is basically a WILD that you do right after you exit dream: DEILD - Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views
Here's also tutorial if you want to try it, many people have success with it: DEILD Tutorial - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Yea I was reading that earlier I've actually been doing that without knowing it was an actual thing haha. I have problems with sleep paralysis from an awake state because for some reason I enter a dream before paralysis even happens so I always used to enter a wild from a lucid dream which would actually be DILD except the mind is already in an awakened state sometimes I wake myself from the dream to do a wild.

http://www.dreamviews.com/wake-initi...explained.html
As i have replied to you in other thread, you can't force sleep paralysis state and you don't need to do it for WILDing, all you actually need to do is relax and fall asleep while being aware and then enter the dream.
Here's some more detailed information about WILDing, check it out: WILD (Sageous)

@spazitude - please check the date of last post and try not to resurect old posts. Person you replied to was not here in few years. Feel free to make a new thread with your question if no recent thread is available.

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