Thread: I CANNOT get lucid.

'Ey don't get discouraged!

I'm exactly the same way.
I've been trying hard ever since I joined Dreamviews, and the only thing I ever got was a dream about learning to fly.
(Some guy was teaching me, told me I could if I believed it and I went "Oh that's like in those Lucid Dreams..")

Still trying
It'll come!


EDIT: I just looked back to my first thread I made, and it was posted at 03-16-2008, so that means I've been trying for 6 months. That actually makes me quite happy, I thought I had tried for much longer. I've heard of people who have gone on without results for much longer than six months :v

Originally Posted by RockNRoller123

Alright, always glad to help man.

Here's how I would do it:

Do this a little after you wake up in the morning:

1. Lay on your back with your hands wherever they're most comfortable.
2. Lay completely still and let your mind wander. If you find yourself falling, asleep focus on your breathing.
3. Once your considerably relaxed, you will start seeing random images, This is a sign to start visualizing.
4. When you visualize, just create some scene in your mind. Add detail as you
think up this scene. If you in a deep enough trance it should become
EXTREMELY VIVID.
5. As soon as this happens, get up. Physically try to get up out of your bed.
If you have done everything right, you will get up out of your physical
body and straight into the dream.

If I've failed to explain anything or my explanation is sketchy, tell me and I'll expand on whatever you don't get.

I think I can say this for both me and Rai Saix;

It's not that easy.
I've never gotten as far as getting "Extremely vivid" pictures. (Atleast not ones I can actually see, they remain in my 'third eye')
It's really hard to remain conscious when you're at that point. As soon as I get 'conscious' again after being off from the images, they zoom away and I become more awake.
So saying that I just have to wait for the images and get up, I can imagine this happening:

1. Vivid images arrives.
2. Omg, their here, I should attempt to get up now.
3. Vivid images dissapear due to me getting more awake.
4. I'm standing up.
5. Reality Check.
6. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU--

Rai, it looks to me like you and me have pretty much the same problems
Do you agree with these points? :p

I'm almost having the same problem. I've been trying on and off to LD, probably for about a year now. The only time I have any real success is when I stop trying for a couple of weeks and then I may/may not have a semi-lucid one, but it's really nothing special. Whenever I try to LD, I either sit there thinking too much to try and stay conscious, but then never fall asleep, or relax way too much and go straight to sleep.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=D49ik9VJHE4

I've seen all his videos all ready...
And yes, Maeni, we are on the same wavelength.

Same problem, 8 months for me

I'm getting close thou, i can feel it!

Anybody CAN have an LD, but for some people it takes a bit longer. I still don't know for sure if I've had an LD, and I've been trying for quite a long time too. I think I got into SP though, I heard someone calling my name and it was getting louder and louder. As I relaxed it stopped, but when I tryed to move it started again.

Just try to WILD in the weekend. Stay in bed for 10-11 hours, when you wake up, don't move, and try to WILD.

The 10-11 hour time spent in bed was the key for me. After about 8 hours of sleep I kept waking up and falling back to sleep repeatedly. First time I woke up, I moved, and I remembered myself to lay still next time I wake up. I did, and it worked.

first thing is that when you tell yourself it's impossible... it literally is impossible. same thing goes for when in a lucid, if you tell yourself something is impossible... it can't happen. so you have to believe it is possible because everyone can have a lucid. i had a lucid dry spell for like 3 months and didn't know when i would ever have one again. then i read stephen laberge's book exploring the world of lucid dreaming. i definately recommend this book to anyone having problems. he mentions this exact same thing and says that you need to believe that it is easy.
after 3 months of a dry spell i did this exact same thing coupled with stephen laberge's MILD method that he outlines in the book and had 2 lucids in one night. if you don't have one after telling yourself that it is easy you can't get down on yourself, you just need to keep the same state of mind and keep trying because it does take many tries for the majority of people. when i had these dreams i woke up at about six in the morning and told myself "next time i'm dreaming i will remember i'm dreaming" and the next thing i knew i was in a dream.
WILDing take a long time especially if you are having trouble with obtaining a lucid. i would recommend trying the MILD technique untill you get a lucid before trying new techniques. you also should be able to recall one dream per night before attempting to lucid. for all you know you've had a lucid but just don't remember it upon awakening which = never having one because you don't know if you did. also another thing that helps extremely well is during your daily routine imagine you are dreaming and what you would do. picture it like real life, because that is what a lucid feels like, but you can do anything you want (you believe you can do and you want). just take off on a tangent at work or school and picture yourself as vividly as possible doing whatever it is you want. it helps if it is something impossible in the real world like flying because it is a dreamsign within itself.
Also create a dream journal and then everything that wouldn't happen in real life, for example like being with people you wouldn't think should be together like 2 different groups of friends or being in an odd place, classify into: inner awareness (something you just know but shouldn't in real life), context (you shouldn't be in this place in real life or these people shouldn't be here), form (a person looks weird or looks like half animal), and action (something happens like flirting with someone you don't think possible in real life). count them up and then focus on whichever is most for you. for me context is the majority so when i'm in a weird place i as myself am i dreaming and then do a reality check like holding my nose and breathing through it and then bam! lucid.
if you have any other questions please send me a message and i will answer them. i may not have as much experience as other people but i assure you i could give some solid advice.
btw, if you have a couple drinks before bed and then wake up 6-8 hours later it suppresses REM until you are sober so you have REM rebound when you wake up in that time span and then go back to bed. it works wonders for me...have had more lucids when drunk the night before currently than without lol.... but don't drink to have lucids.

I read in a book[exploring the world of lucid dreams] that for some people, they try incredibly hard to build themselves up to lucid dream that they think of it as something incredibly hard to attain and therefore make it this way for themselves.

Maybe you want to lucid dream so badly that you have made it so hard for yourself because you're trying so hard?

I would suggest keeping up with a dream journal/reality checks but put a hold on trying to lucid dream for a while? I had this problem for a while myself, and after I took a step back and stop trying so hard they started to come to me.

You sound very defeatist mate; almost as though you don’t want to succeed because you want to prove to everyone that you’re hopeless and you fail at everything. Not saying that’s what it is, but that’s the impression you’re giving, which isn’t going to help things. I also agree with the above poster – seems like you’re trying too hard at the moment, to me. It can be like trying too hard to get to sleep – the harder you try, the more difficult it becomes.

Don’t despair; I doubt there is any such thing as a person who can’t LD – it just comes easier to some than others.

I've been trying for months and no results. And the other day, I was talking to a friend of mine, and I explained to her what Lucid Dreaming was. Then she goes, "Oh that? I do that every time I dream. *pause* Isn't that normal?" I then proceeded to bang my forehead on the wall.

Yah. Does someone have an actually success story? Like, they never LD'd before and finally, after WILDing or DILDing got one?