Thread: Wb2b

I think it depends on the person. Just get awake enough that you won't fall instantly back asleep.

Last night I had a GREAT chance to attempt a DEILD, then my cat stepped on me. So I had to go let him out of my room. I couldn't fall back asleep for my life.

There are techniques based on going immediately back to sleep. The tricks based on DEILD:
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=62769
I always assume that anything that interrupts your sleep will give you a shot at becoming lucid.

The WBTB that was first invented by Laberge required you to become fully awake. He recommended staying awake for an hour or more. Everyone is different, and most people don't stay up that long. The real goal is to get your brain active again, so you will have the chance to use a little logic in your next dream. Stay awake as long as it takes to get rid of that foggy muddled feeling.

Thanks for the help guys

I've tried WBTB twice now and both times I think I was too awake so I just got bored, rolled over, stopped trying and went back to sleep.

I don't think I am doing it right:

I set the alarm for 4am
I get up and switch off the alarm
I go back to bed and allow myself to relax as if doing a WILD or something
I lay there for quite a while
Then I just decide to give up because it's too early in the morning and I probably need some sleep before I get up in the morning

Originally Posted by benTENDO

Thanks for the help guys

I've tried WBTB twice now and both times I think I was too awake so I just got bored, rolled over, stopped trying and went back to sleep.

I don't think I am doing it right:

I set the alarm for 4am
I get up and switch off the alarm
I go back to bed and allow myself to relax as if doing a WILD or something
I lay there for quite a while
Then I just decide to give up because it's too early in the morning and I probably need some sleep before I get up in the morning

For a WBTB, try getting up, turning the alarm off, using the restroom, drinking some water, and eating a handful of crackers or something small. While doing all of this be very critical of your surroundings. Do a reality check for anything and everything you can possibly think of. For example, I may look at a shadow that looks perfectly normal from the nightlight in my bathroom, but I will tell myself that it looks a little "weird" and do a RC for it. Or maybe anything that looks like it might be misplaced I will do a RC for (my room is a mess right now so there are many these I can find right now). I'm a light sleeper and usually 15 minutes is the right amount of time for me to stay up and I can still fall asleep.

Technically though, if you do what I described above, you don't need to try to WILD. Just rehearse what you plan on doing when you become lucid, and simply fall asleep. This works very well for having a DILD, anyway. Good Luck!

I could see that working pretty well. I'll have to experiment with it if I fail to DEILD.

If you are just doing WBTB without any WILD or MILD, you should be falling back to sleep. That's the whole idea.

For me, it helps to get out of bed and walk around. I like to even read something about dreaming or do a few math problems in my head to get my critical thinking skills going. I really focus on reality checking as I walk around, use the bathroom, get a little snack, ect. Then I just go back to bed, tell myself one more time "The next thing I see will be a dream," and fall asleep normally.

No weird sleep paralysis, WILD, or visualization is necessary. The idea is the brief period of wakefulness will jump start your brain's logical thinking, and help you become lucid in your next dream. Its sort of a passive thing.

If you want to, you can add a MILD or WILD to the back-to-bed portion, but you don't have to. I only do once a week or so, when I'm feeling 'in the zone.'