Thread: Ok this is gonna sound totally stupid but...

Just sounds like another way to VILD-visual induced Lucid Dream. Which is a variation of WILD-Wake initiated Lucid Dream.

The idea is to picture a thing or place in your mind, until you enter the scene, hopefully Lucid.

If you have a picture of a scene that you want to recreate, and explore in your mind that badly, then I'm sure this trick could have a chance to work. I think I'd just try to remember what the picture looks like as best I could, then visualize it as I fall to sleep. So what if the scene doesn't turn out exactly the same, It would be close enough.

Thanks caradon for the reply. Im gonna give it a try tonight and see how it goe's But i bet this one is gonna down as another epic failure in the quest for lucidity for me. But im still gonna give it try if this dont work then hello LSD im just kidding Id probaly just go back to the sleep dep method if i cant get anything out of this.

Good Luck!

Boy that cat is really rocking.

Nah no luck tonight i got too bored and just gave up.I guess i was'nt sleepy enough but i guess ill try agian another time. Hah you like the cat gif i think i got it from some site called giftube.

I did a little bit of VILDing last night. I usually visualize drawing numbers on a chalk board. Or writing " This is a dream" across it. That usually pulls me into the scene pretty quick. I don't generally officially count my VILDS and WILDS though. Partly because I usually slip out of them so quickly. They are easy for me to get into, but very hard to stay in them for more than a few moments.

Your lucky you can visualize i cant visualize for nothing if you told me to imagine a dark room with no window's i still could'nt. Only time i can visualize is when im almost asleep i can control HI's and see what i want. But the minute i focus on them.It's back to stage 1 being awake agian cause im never relaxed enough to handle seeing HI's.So i was thinking if i could learn better visulization skills i could get used to seeing them.But nope i tried everything to improve my visualization skill's and nothing work's.Yeah so i was thinking maybe stareing at a picture when your almost asleep.Would bring HI's without the surprize appearance and not disturbing your relaxation But anyway i got another crazy idea it's probaly worst then the first. but this time dealing with sound. But i got to test it out first to see if this actually work before i say anything.

If this was a stupid idea I wouldn't have spent over a year figuring out how to do this best.

I have improved in my ability and knowledge greatly, I hope to write a tutorial someday explaining it, when I master it and can see anything super vivid.

If visualization truly is improvable past a certain point then it would be the greatest lucid dreaming method to me, it is no wonder though why most people don't take the idea too seriously, it takes effort to train such a thing, and some people are very very good visualizers and some can't see anything much at all, I started out in the latter category. Of course I haven't trained straight for 1 year, I've just had trouble understanding what to do and killed my ability after not doing it right for awhile (and laziness). (in fact I've improved well in the past 3 days)

Originally Posted by LucidDreamGod

If this was a stupid idea I wouldn't have spent over a year figuring out how to do this best.

I have improved in my ability and knowledge greatly, I hope to write a tutorial someday explaining it, when I master it and can see anything super vivid.

If visualization truly is improvable past a certain point then it would be the greatest lucid dreaming method to me, it is no wonder though why most people don't take the idea too seriously, it takes effort to train such a thing, and some people are very very good visualizers and some can't see anything much at all, I started out in the latter category. Of course I haven't trained straight for 1 year, I've just had trouble understanding what to do and killed my ability after not doing it right for awhile (and laziness). (in fact I've improved well in the past 3 days)

Im not saying visualizing is stupid im just saying the idea i had trying to improve my visualization skills maybe was'nt a good idea. Right now im trying everything to try and improve but nothing working.I would be glad to hear any tip's or methods you may have. I know they say you got to have good memory and i have that.Right now i can browse picture's place's things as if i were actually looking at them.But as far as seeing as if you were actually looking with your real eye's no i cant get that far.Only if im like really close to falling asleep then i can but i want to be able to visualize at will.Yeah i would be glad to hear any tip's you make have.

Originally Posted by donnieb2

Im not saying visualizing is stupid im just saying the idea i had trying to improve my visualization skills maybe was'nt a good idea. Right now im trying everything to try and improve but nothing working.I would be glad to hear any tip's or methods you may have. I know they say you got to have good memory and i have that.Right now i can browse picture's place's things as if i were actually looking at them.But as far as seeing as if you were actually looking with your real eye's no i cant get that far.Only if im like really close to falling asleep then i can but i want to be able to visualize at will.Yeah i would be glad to hear any tip's you make have.

Yeah thats specifically what I was referring to. If you want to learn how to visualize you have to be able to realize that even know you don't see practically anything sometimes when you attempt to see something doesn't mean it isn't there. Take for example when you recall your dreams, you may remember some kind of feeling in the night, a weird concept of what might have been associated with some dream. The same thing goes with pictures formed in the mind, each scene has a feeling (and so does memory). When you are in your present position and you close your eyes you know where you are even though you don't see anything you get a feeling of presence because your brain has assigned this your position in reality as your current position. But now try and see if you can convince your mind that your in another room, you may not even see anything, you may see several pieces of the image all floating around in some kind of strange abstract blur. Somewhere in your mind exists a highly detailed map of this place and you should be able to feel it underneath the concept of this room, you could practice for awhile and not see much of anything but blurs and feel something beneath the surface, but the key is bringing the sense of detail around you to the surface. When you try to look where the picture is it feels like your trying to stare at something that is pretty unstable and not in your comfortably field of awareness, but you are still doing it. You should visualize from memory first, like around your house, and familiar places.

To understand the feel of an image, the very concept of it further visualize an orb of color, and cycle through the different colors, and as you do try to get a feel for how exactly you bring about each separate color, after all color is a very abstract thing that can't be explained in it's self between each individual. When you get better at visualization just like you were able to feel for the image of each color you will be able to feel for more detailed images, and draw them out in your mind with 100 times the skill as you could on paper.

This compells me to make a Really large artwork with Pastels, acrylic paint and blacklight-fluorescent acrylic paint on a large canvas. Of a scene ideal to start a Dream in and hang it on the ceiling over my Bed so I can stare at it as I fall asleep.

Originally Posted by LucidDreamGod

You should visualize from memory first, like around your house, and familiar places.

This is what I was going to suggest, also.

It sounds like this technique is placing an image in you short term memory, then using that easily accessible memory as a starting point to visualize. You can do the same thing just by remembering a familiar environment. It is difficult to create an image in your mind from nothing. Much easier to recall a vivid memory.

When I do VILD type WILDs, I always imagine myself moving through a familiar place. It is much easier than constructing something from scratch.

Thank's guy's for the reply's and i understand what Lucid Dream God was saying.But i just dont get the part about feeling color's when i see image's that form out of nowhere i dont feel anything.So im gonna try the visualizing orb's but when trying to visualize these orb's. Do you actually have to see them in your mind's eye or you just can imagine them? But let me see if i got this right pick a place or scene you know well and can easy see in your mind.Then focus on that scene and just try to see and feel yourself there and after awhile it should become an scene with visual's.I been working with the part about imagining feeling's im pretty good at that now.Call me crazy but it feel's good when your really really into it even if you dont see anything. Hee Hee depending what your thinking about but what ever works go for it. But anyway i hope i think i got it right when trying to visualize.