Thread: During WILD Transition..

Ok so when I WILD lately, (been trying to WILD without sleeping first), it seems its the same as when I sleep first except that when I feel like I'm being "pulled in" I just stay in that state, my mind doesn't sink into a dream etc.

Now, when I feel like I'm being "pulled in", (when I haven't slept first) I'm always thinking about what I should be thinking about (that sounded weird..)

Spoiler for Ranting:

I've tried the following (they don't work very well.. Actually, they just don't work at all)
I feel like I need to focus on something, anything at all. I don't think I could un-focus myself.
- Focusing on what my paralysis feels like (numbness, waves, heavy, etc)
- Focusing on the sound of silence (sounds like faint beeping, strangely..)
- Focusing on where I actually am (telling myself that I'm laying in bed feels really weird)

I'm not sure if anyone can understand the situation I'm trying to describe, but basically I'm asking anyone who WILDs without sleeping first what they concentrate on when this happens. Do I pretend its not happening? Do I have to train myself to ignore it?

yup i get that... except i've never wilded haha just tried... alot

If get you right you have problem with getting deeper, making next next into a dream.

I have the same problem. Actually I wasted years not trying different approach. Anyway...
I assume you have no problems with staying focused for long time without getting asleep. Basically you have to kinda loose your mind. Making getting asleep more natural. I found the following making more sleepy thus making sinking into a dream easier:
- WILD after 4-5 hours of sleep
- lay on your side instead of back
- use supplements like Melatonin with/or L-Theanine. They are natural and no addictive. No side effects. If this works bad for your REM quality you may use them it with Galantamine + Choline. Before trying read some post about G+Ch and also mine about taking all this stuff together
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=70296
One of above may work or combination of all. Remember to not to get to dependent on supplements

Yeah I don't really find supplements too appealing, I've never used them and don't plan on it.

I'll try laying on my side vs on my back (I'm actually always on my back when I try)

Actually I forgot that some people find fourth option comfortable - lying on stomack. I've never used it for WILD. When for ND I put my pillow under my left arm to supress the pressure on my heart.
I assume you are familiar with WBTB.
When laying on side you are more likely to sink into a dream but there is much greater chance of loosing consciousness. Thus it should suit you.
Good L(D)uck!

Definitely not comfortable on my stomach (at all) but I'll try sleeping on my side while WILDing from now on. Thanks.