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      If get you right you have problem with getting deeper, making next next into a dream.

      I have the same problem. Actually I wasted years not trying different approach. Anyway...
      I assume you have no problems with staying focused for long time without getting asleep. Basically you have to kinda loose your mind. Making getting asleep more natural. I found the following making more sleepy thus making sinking into a dream easier:
      - WILD after 4-5 hours of sleep
      - lay on your side instead of back
      - use supplements like Melatonin with/or L-Theanine. They are natural and no addictive. No side effects. If this works bad for your REM quality you may use them it with Galantamine + Choline. Before trying read some post about G+Ch and also mine about taking all this stuff together
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      One of above may work or combination of all. Remember to not to get to dependent on supplements
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      Yeah I don't really find supplements too appealing, I've never used them and don't plan on it.

      I'll try laying on my side vs on my back (I'm actually always on my back when I try)
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      Actually I forgot that some people find fourth option comfortable - lying on stomack. I've never used it for WILD. When for ND I put my pillow under my left arm to supress the pressure on my heart.
      I assume you are familiar with WBTB.
      When laying on side you are more likely to sink into a dream but there is much greater chance of loosing consciousness. Thus it should suit you.
      Good L(D)uck!

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      Definitely not comfortable on my stomach (at all) but I'll try sleeping on my side while WILDing from now on. Thanks.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Conquer View Post
      Definitely not comfortable on my stomach (at all) but I'll try sleeping on my side while WILDing from now on. Thanks.
      Really? that's the most common position I sleep in (on my stomach). Anyway, out of my two WILDs, both were on my back, but I hope you find luck trying it on your side. In fact, I'll try this too. After those first two WILDs, I've just been getting stuck in the same state you get stuck in.

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      Quote Originally Posted by snoop View Post
      Really? that's the most common position I sleep in (on my stomach). Anyway, out of my two WILDs, both were on my back, but I hope you find luck trying it on your side. In fact, I'll try this too. After those first two WILDs, I've just been getting stuck in the same state you get stuck in.
      As the matter of fact all newborn babies in hospitals lay on their stomack as this is the most natural and safe for them
      As to being got stuck - it is a good reason to try different approach. Trying the same for in hope of the success did not work for me.
      Last night I had two short LD's laying on side...

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      I tried laying on my side twice now (without sleeping first) and both times I got to the state where I saw actual visuals (when the object looks like its really there). Sleeping on my side is uncomfortable some times (sometimes leg cramps during sp) but it seems I can more easily slip into a dream-like state. Thanks for your suggestion it worked.
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