Thread: *~* V-WILD : The foundations *~*

Very nice piece of writing (don't see enough of that on Dreamviews nowadays, good use of robust metaphors, easy-to-follow orginization of thought in sentences and tutorial as a whole), and a great tutorial, to boot! I do have one question, however...

The worst thing that you could do in that situation is think “This is my dream, I don't care about cars coming to hit me...” then discard the thought.

Are you warning against the thought, or against the discard of the thought or the car? Because, I really do like this thought. It can be used to face nightmares, and it is a sign of higher lucidity. Discarding the thought of the car completely is probably a worse idea--it might not work in a dream to rid yourself of the car, and it hurts your visualization techniques.

I just want some clarification~

This helped me. Thanks

Originally Posted by pojmaster17q

Ah, so, I read through the whole thing. This seems to be less of a step-by-step technique, and more of a base for a technique, and how to find one's own way to do it. Pretty good description. However, someone who hasn't read through a VILD/V-WILD thread might have some trouble getting the point of this. Either way, it's good advice for when I actually start practicing V-WILD.

Hmm, I see your point. I may have to provide more of a basis for newbies especially. I was never really good at the "Hey you guest lurker! Here's an easy step by step tutorial that won't actually get you anywhere guarentees you an LD!" =P One thing I REALLY hope above all from the thread is, however, that people will use this info to create those sorts of techs (citing this thread, of course ;P) (and one of the few techs that actually work well).

Originally Posted by Abra

Very nice piece of writing (don't see enough of that on Dreamviews nowadays, good use of robust metaphors, easy-to-follow orginization of thought in sentences and tutorial as a whole), and a great tutorial, to boot! I do have one question, however...

Are you warning against the thought, or against the discard of the thought or the car? Because, I really do like this thought. It can be used to face nightmares, and it is a sign of higher lucidity. Discarding the thought of the car completely is probably a worse idea--it might not work in a dream to rid yourself of the car, and it hurts your visualization techniques.

I just want some clarification~

You want to avoid discarding the thought of the car. An impartial stance can work wonders in nightmares and once you are in a lucid dream but it usually puts the shit to the fan blade when you are inducing one (especially early on). Embrace and encourage the spontaneity of your mind =D.

EDIT: beefed up the intro a little for the less experienced crowd, probably gonna do a re-write later but it suffices for now

I do have a question though. Every time I am about to transition the dream fades and I fail.... Do you know anything that would help me?

Originally Posted by hellohihello

I do have a question though. Every time I am about to transition the dream fades and I fail.... Do you know anything that would help me?

That would mean it didn't get stabilized.

I can't give you a definitive road marker for when you can transition (the above is just approximations/generalizations), you'll know once you've done it once when you can go to full lucid. Now, though.... you know when it is too early ;P

Thanks

Originally Posted by hellohihello

Thanks

have you had any luck? =D

Yup been trying this out though
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...40#post1044640

It makes me wake up so it's perfect to start visualizing. I only succeeded one time though, my rem is to late in the morning so I have a bunch of distractions. When I stop trying that technique, I'll try this from the start.