Thread: Roll-over signal...

Originally Posted by spaceexplorer

You've misunderstood me, and sorry if it seemed like i was being critical of you.

I completely agree that it it is a good idea not to move in these situations.
What i have a problem with is the idea that they are test signals from the body.
I think that part is incorrect.
I think staying still helps avoid needless movement that would increase your chances of staying awake. But i think that the sensations are simply discomfort, which is amplified by the fact that we are consciously aware of the process of falling asleep. It's like if you think about creepy crawly bugs crawling on your skin, that you are more likely to get itchy, because your attention is turned to it.

Same with yawning, if you think about it too much, you'll yawn... just that nice sensation of streching your mouth wide open, the air tumbling into your lungs, the refreshing strech of yawning... mmm, how nice it would be to just relax, let go and let all that air fill your lungs. Yawning yet?

Newports theory is completely flawed. And as someone trying to set themself up as an expert, you'd think they would take the time to get their facts right.
Yes he is right that not moving too much is a good idea... but that's all he's right about. The rest is nonsense made up theory... basically showing him up for not studying basic biology and psychology.

So yes i completely agree with you that not moving is a good practice (within reason, i think if you are starting to hurt, you'll probably be actually working against falling asleep)

Yes, now I understand better what you mean. Some healthy movement may not hurt, but alot of people might think that once they have moved maybe just a little bit, they have ruined their attempt. So it becomes like a dilemma, if you stay still in an uncomfortable movement, you won't fall asleep, but if you move and think that the attempt was ruined because of that, you fail too. So the best thing one can do is having a comfortable body and a positive and focused mind, I guess.

Edit: Of course, some people can totally ignore the pain and ache and still fall asleep, but I think that is difficult and requires alot of training.