Thread: Sleep Deprivation and lucids

Well I just started recently myself, but what worked for me is doing lots of RC's, I also read about it occasionally, but I don't think that really helped me. I think doing RC's and saying mantras before you fall asleep help, also be very aware of your surroudings in the real world, then you'll spot the differences in the dream world easier. I read that somewhere. There's good info at the tutorial section in this site by the way, I checked it out a few days ago, there's some interesting stuff.

I don't deprive myself of sleep deliberately, for LD induction or any other reason, but I am frequently sleep deprived and I've found it conducive to LDs once you get a day to sleep in. REM rebound and the greater frequency of wake-sleep-wake transitions greatly up the odds of lucidity.

Originally Posted by stonedape

Has anyone ever used sleep deprivation to induce lucid dreams? I don't normally do this sort of thing, but my insomnia was really bad last night and I didn't get any sleep. At about 4:00 I got up and started reading. I could probably sleep now but I want to get back on a regular sleeping schedule.

I don't have any kind of a method in mind, but I plan on doing lots of reality checks and reading some stuff on dreaming. Any other suggestions?

Sleep deprivation could cause you to have waking sleep paralysis, so yeah you could use it for lucids.

Originally Posted by Noodles

Sleep deprivation could cause you to have waking sleep paralysis, so yeah you could use it for lucids.

For real! I'm excited now. I've never even heard of that

Originally Posted by stonedape

For real! I'm excited now. I've never even heard of that

From Sleep Paralysis on wikipedia:

Possible causes

REM atonia occurs during REM sleep, thus preventing the body from manifesting movements made in the subject's dreams. Very little is known about the physiology of sleep paralysis.[citation needed] However, some[who?] have suggested that it may be linked to post-synaptic inhibition of motor neurons in the pons region of the brain.[citation needed] In particular, low levels of melatonin may stop the depolarization current in the nerves, preventing the stimulation of the muscles and any consequent enactment of the dream activity by the body (e.g. preventing a sleeper from flailing his or her legs when dreaming about running).[citation needed]

Several studies have concluded that many or most people will experience sleep paralysis at least once or twice in their lives.[citation needed] A study conducted by Sedaghat F. et al. has investigated the prevalence of sleep paralysis among Iranian medical students. 24.1% of students reported experiencing sleep paralysis at least once in their lifetime. The same result was reported among Japanese, Nigerian, Kuwaiti, Sudanese and American students.[11]

Many people who commonly enter sleep paralysis also suffer from narcolepsy. In non-Nigerian Africans, panic disorder occurs with sleep paralysis more frequently than in Caucasians.[12] Some reports read that various factors increase the likelihood of both paralysis and hallucinations. These include:[13]

* Sleeping in a face upwards or supine position
* Irregular sleeping schedules; naps, sleeping in, sleep deprivation
* Increased stress
* Sudden environmental/lifestyle changes
* A lucid dream that immediately precedes the episode.

This seemed like a pretty good place to post this quest: If you can have REM rebound is it possible to get an opposite version of this through too much sleep? I ask because today I've had over 14 hours of sleep from naps to try out new techniques.

Because of my procrastitative nature, I end up having late nights when I study a lot. If I skip a night of sleep, I have found that if I can sleep in the next day I have a ton of dreams, and usually a lucid. The best thing to do though is combine it with a WBTB or try a WILD. I have only had two WILD's and both were from no sleep the night before and a WBTB.

Originally Posted by Taosaur

I don't deprive myself of sleep deliberately, for LD induction or any other reason, but I am frequently sleep deprived and I've found it conducive to LDs once you get a day to sleep in. REM rebound and the greater frequency of wake-sleep-wake transitions greatly up the odds of lucidity.

Samesies.