Thread: The New Technique, Fool Proof

You'd be better off just telling us to drink apple juice, and then have confidence that it will work.

That wouldn't be a tutorial or anything then. It would probably sound like "yo dv, drink some apple juice it makes you lucid man! I would just sound like I was high and made a thread. In a civilized manner, I explained what needed to be done. It may be more difficult but at least you see where I'm coming from.

Cheers,

-CV

Personally it sounds silly to me, but I'm sure it would work in a proper Placebo situation giving it to someone else or someone else giving you something, but I doubt the average person could convince them selves they were actually drinking something special, but I'm sure this has already been said so I won't repeat the discussion

Although if you ever marketed such a thing, people would probably be more convinced it it tasted bad and was in a fancy container lol

But interesting guide, defiantly something to study, although I'm not sure "fool proof" is the right way of saying it.

Yeah, I guess maybe its not fool proof after all. Maybe after a Bit more research, I can make it live up to the title. I see where you guys are going, and getting at. But maybe for some people it may be beneficial.

-CV

This is NOT the placebo effect. The placebo effect REQUIRES that you not know of the "magic pills" lack of magic. By it's very nature the placebo effect cannot last, if it did then the FDA and any other drug company would be in serious trouble. Convincing yourself of a lie is not possible, anyone who tries this is already somewhat convinced it might work, if only to the point of "i can't think why it wouldn't". Someone saying it doesn't sound likely and saying im 100% sure it won't work are two very different things. This is normal, pavlovian conditioning. You are pairing a stimulus (the drink) with a response (lucid dreaming). Over time the bond between these two grows and the stimulus begins to produce the response. Of course this would only be conditioned if you begin to have lucid dreams while drinking your elixir. The post above me saying why not just drink apple juice is right, it's the same thing, the only difference by putting more time and effort into concocting your own "lucid drink" you are creating a stronger bond between the stimulus and the response by association.

Mmmm. I see that Nyrawake, and the more I think about it the more I realize you are correct. Although, I am still going to put an effort into seeing how this could potentially work. I think there may be a little loophole in this "placebo effect" that will allow your mind to give into the lie you are convincing it to be. This could still be considered a placebo effect, if you want to do it to another person. But yes, all of you are correct.

-CV
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Orange juice actually helps you have vivid and lucid dreams
I haven't had any lucid dreams yet but I've only been trying for two days so i'm giving it some time

Charamarlw, Welcome to the forum. I didn't have any lucid dreams until two months after joining. I just want to give you some very straight and to the point advice. If you don't get an LD anytime soon, DONT GIVE UP! You just have to keep working at it, and you will get one. If you back off a little bit, you will have to start all over again, and start what you were trying to accomplish from the very start.

Good Luck!
-CV

Thanks
how did you get your first lucid what technique?

Well I happened to get a lucky DILD because I started to do 5 RC's a day. I recommend keeping a dream journal and start doing various reality checks such as Looking at the clock, look away, look again and see if time changed, plug your nose and try to breathe in through your nose, and if you can breathe you are obviously dreaming.

-CV

I do reality checks whenever a dream sign shows up and I do have a dream journal! So yeah I'm gonna try WILD tomorrow night and see how that goes

I want read youzzz dream journalll! Liiiiink!

-cv

http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=97923
there you go

I tried this and i dont think it really worked :/ i even tried drinking something that ive never tried before (some sort of juice my brother bought) to help convince myself it was "lucid" juice. but it failed this is like trying to convince yourself a giraffe is a fluffy kitty. D:

The thread title shouldn't be fool proof. Unless it is meant to PROVE that you are a fool lol.
Because to convince yourself that a drink is lucid juice, that is, to use the placebo effect on yourself, you would have to be quite a fool.
Either that or have very strong convictions that it is true. But mostly this would work on more simple minded people I think.

I would change the title, but the thread link gets glitched up, and the thread usually gets lost forever o.O

-CV

Try this. It is a spell to help the juice work better. Don't worry though, this won't call upon any spirits. All it does is that it calls upon your mind to have a lucid dream .

1) Pour your juice into the disired glass. Your favourite glass + juice is best, although any glass or juice will do.
2) Now stir the juice three times anticlockwise, then three times clockwise. Utter the spell:

I call this juice to make me be,
Lucid, for an awesome dream
I stir this juice and so it be,
That I will have a lucid dream.

Note that the exact words do not have to be said; sometimes a slight variation is more effective.

3) Now drink the juice while asking your subconscious to have a lucid dream. Drink until there is only a dribble left.

4) Splash the dribble on your face, and say, ‘Seal the lucidity’.

Note: For the best effect, believe this will work! Belief power everyone!

EDIT: I assure you this isn't dabbling with the Occoult. You're not calling spirits when asking this, but rather asking yourself to become lucid, and this spell is to aid you with that question. Remember, a skeptical person can't cast this spell and make it work.

Originally Posted by hgld1234

Try this. It is a spell to help the juice work better. Don't worry though, this won't call upon any spirits. All it does is that it calls upon your mind to have a lucid dream .

1) Pour your juice into the disired glass. Your favourite glass + juice is best, although any glass or juice will do.
2) Now stir the juice three times anticlockwise, then three times clockwise. Utter the spell:

I call this juice to make me be,
Lucid, for an awesome dream
I stir this juice and so it be,
That I will have a lucid dream.

Note that the exact words do not have to be said; sometimes a slight variation is more effective.

3) Now drink the juice while asking your subconscious to have a lucid dream. Drink until there is only a dribble left.

4) Splash the dribble on your face, and say, ‘Seal the lucidity’.

Note: For the best effect, believe this will work! Belief power everyone!

EDIT: I assure you this isn't dabbling with the Occoult. You're not calling spirits when asking this, but rather asking yourself to become lucid, and this spell is to aid you with that question. Remember, a skeptical person can't cast this spell and make it work.

Nah, it's not occult at all! You only summon a few demons along the way!
I'm kidding. I'll try this crazy spell tonight, thank you very much.

Ok now you ARE just being a fool. Placebo effect will work whether you take a pill or recite bohemian rhapsody backward 10 times. Spose a ritual might help to believe it a bit. But in general taking a non active pill will work just as well.

Originally Posted by SoulSurfing

Nah, it's not occult at all! You only summon a few demons along the way!
I'm kidding. I'll try this crazy spell tonight, thank you very much.

Aaargh. I spilt grapefruit juice in my eye :/

Furthermore, no lucid dream

I guess it's my fault for not believing it could work. Still, I might as well keep trying.

Alright, mabye not a good idea to do the splash thing… But I think that splashing it on your hands, then your face, is ok too.

if u wanna get sticky

Wow! This seems great! I'm going to try this Sunday night

^^ Good Luck!

-CV