A state Beyond the OBE

[futureghost]

Does anyone have any experience with this? I attempted Zazen from within an OBE and found myself ejected into something that was neither an OBE nor a meditative state but something else completely. Feedback appreciated.

[SonatArctica]

Does anyone have any experience with this? I attempted Zazen from within an OBE and found myself ejected into something that was neither an OBE nor a meditative state but something else completely. Feedback appreciated. you entered the state behind all realities i.e. the fabric of all realities. you became one with the super consciousness. i also practice ZEN and i also have such experiences

[Dthoughts]

Describe it please ! details baby, details.. I've only had a swift OBE and lately when i try meditating i get a pain in my heart and it feels like if i keep doing this i might die.. I don't wanna die just yet

[futureghost]

What I experienced wasn't unlike what SonatArctica said, the only major difference is that I don't feel comfortable assigning personal meaning to it because if there could be yet another state beyond that (and I have no idea what that would be or how one might get to it) then figuring out how to get to it will depend on understanding the actual mechanics of the state. I think we can both agree that considering what the other two states are like it's very possible to see or experience something VERY subjective, and the only thing we can count on being consistent are the principles that define the experience. to me (and again this is VERY subjective) it didn't seem like I was merging with super-consciousness it seemed like i was looking at "thought" objectively. As for what i actually experienced that is what it looked like, it looked like an infinite plain of cross sections and connections. Sort of like this: imlab.acouy.ru/~images/rsmodels/1_gran_upak_large.jpg but much, much more intricate (infinitely intricate), and a sort of deep gold color. Nothing moved, everything was just a distortion of everything else. I know what you mean about getting pains in your chest I generally just ignore that and push ahead. I really don;t think (for myself) that there is actual danger, instead I think it's the Ego freaking out because it knows you have it in your cross-hairs. that's what I think. When my heart starts doing that I am just thinking to myself "that's right ego...you BETTER be worried, your days are numbered" and I usually feel better after that.

[futureghost]

here are some other things that SORT OF resemble it: georgehart.com/DC/lattice-animation.gif meatfighter.com/puls/ This is VERY close: wapedia.mobi/thumb/7ef4502/en/fixed/470/442/Diamondkikuchi.png?format=jpg This is super close: newton.umsl.edu/philf//nanowrld/d100.gif

[Playlaughdream]

First of all congratulatons for practicing meditation within an OBE. I believe this may enhance meditative absorption and skills so much. I think during meditation all kinds of experiences may occur such as ecstasy, visions of lights, visions of people and facts we never seen before, dispersonalization and so on. That particular experience you had may be one of the planes of meditative absorption beyond ordinary form. I suppose you are experienced in meditation and as a general rule if we don´t let ourselves be captured or too much involved in the experience, then it will resolve and reveal what it is by itself, sometimes as a subtle insight. May be only you can tell.