Thread: Shared Dreaming Challenge- not what you think.

^^ No, no, you misunderstand, Sivason!

Your basic challenge is an excellent one, and forms a strong foundation for the "challenges" that will follow, once this one is licked. In fact, I wasn't going to post at all, but your note about remembering, coupled with Shadowofwind's note about subtle communication, somehow compelled me to amplify both points.

So I guess all I was really trying to say was that maybe the core of your challenges needs just one more piece: memory. I think remembering why you're shouting from the top of that pyramid is as important as actually doing it, and perhaps I hoped to suggest that that aspect get added in somehow. And, of course, I wanted to point out that this is just the beginning.

Sorry for interfering -- it wasn't my place, especially because you're already doing the right thing.

Originally Posted by Sageous

^^ No, no, you misunderstand, Sivason!

Your basic challenge is an excellent one, and forms a strong foundation for the "challenges" that will follow, once this one is licked. In fact, I wasn't going to post at all, but your note about remembering, coupled with Shadowofwind's note about subtle communication, somehow compelled me to amplify both points.

So I guess all I was really trying to say was that maybe the core of your challenges needs just one more piece: memory. I think remembering why you're shouting from the top of that pyramid is as important as actually doing it, and perhaps I hoped to suggest that that aspect get added in somehow. And, of course, I wanted to point out that this is just the beginning.

Sorry for interfering -- it wasn't my place, especially because you're already doing the right thing.

LOL! No, no you misunderstand me! I was not even a hint offended or anything. I was honestly hoping you may help me come up with another basic challenge that would work on that. So, I guess the issue is bringing enough waking memory in the dream? That makes sense, maybe a new challenge could somehow be made to improve this aspect of our dreams. I was truely just hoping that you, as one of our most experienced dreamers, might have an idea how we could work on it. I guess we could stick to these two and later add another,. Do you think the old standard of remebering where you are sleeping and the time of the year (and maybe which year) or something of that nature would work?

Originally Posted by sivason

LOL! No, no you misunderstand me! I was not even a hint offended or anything. I was honestly hoping you may help me come up with another basic challenge that would work on that. So, I guess the issue is bringing enough waking memory in the dream? That makes sense, maybe a new challenge could somehow be made to improve this aspect of our dreams. I was truely just hoping that you, as one of our most experienced dreamers, might have an idea how we could work on it. I guess we could stick to these two and later add another,. Do you think the old standard of remembering where you are sleeping and the time of the year (and maybe which year) or something of that nature would work?

Okay, I'll play ... but stop me if I get in the way, or on your nerves.

I think your initial challenges are best left alone, but I do suggest that you add a memory-based challenge later. The "standard" of remembering where you were asleep is probably still a good choice, but ultimately your challenge will need to nurture the waking memory necessary to not only "know" that you're sleeping somewhere, but to be able to tap waking-life metaphor to help you recognize the presence of the person with whom you are attempting to share your dream. Since odds are excellent that your dream-sharing partner will not be showing up with business cards, or likely even in human form, you'll need to really dig into your own mind to establish both your partner's presence and a means for communication.

So I'd keep it simple now, just like you're doing, but feed in memory challenges later.

And if anyone is still reading: Sivason's challenges are also very helpful to building your LD'ing skills, so they have great value even if you never meet anyone else in your dreams!