Thread: Dream invader

Originally Posted by TiredPhil

Blackfox seems to be sending random replies to threads.

Best to ignore him/her until the drugs wear off.

ikr, I just constantly see cryptic and poetic answers by him all over dv...

Originally Posted by Jabre

did he too know it was a dream? as in, he was self-aware when he went into yours?

The visitor or the invader?

Originally Posted by hathor28

The visitor or the invader?

the invader.

Originally Posted by Jabre

the invader.

Of course they are aware, what will make them seem not? The person acts like he/she knows what he's doing unlike a regular DC.

Originally Posted by hathor28

Of course they are aware, what will make them seem not? The person acts like he/she knows what he's doing unlike a regular DC.

oh okay. i was just wondering if he/she did it accidentally

Originally Posted by Jabre

oh okay. i was just wondering if he/she did it accidentally

No lol, they really want to do it lol

Regular DCs do not have to be mindless. They do not have to act as if they do not know what they are doing. My imagination is such that I know I am perfectly capable of creating with my own mind a DC who could fool me into thinking that he is a fully functional separate entity, but I know that he is just a projection of part of my subconscious or a sophisticated character created by my imagination.

I once years ago had an extensive philosophical argument about lucid dreaming with a DC in a lucid dream. The DC was a representation of my father. He was very articulate and knowledgeable about lucid dreaming, and I came out of this lucid dream thinking that I had certainly not managed to convince him and he had made many valid points. However, I know that this was a DC and not my father nor any other external entity. All the conversation was basically a debate one part of myself had with another part of myself, and my consciousness happened to be on one side of the debate, but my subconscious had many valid counter-arguments. And it makes perfect sense that that part of my subconscious was portrayed with my father's image, and of course he acted and spoke like he knew what he was doing and saying because my subconscious is no dummy either! Also my expectation of my father would be an articulate and stubborn man with strong arguments which often differ from my point of view and whom I have trouble convincing in real life arguments, so why would my dream representation of him be any different?

Just because I am lucid does not mean that I will win arguments or fights against DCs necessarily nor that they will be mindless puppets. I have self-esteem issues and am a person well aware of contradictions in my personality, but in addition to that I know I have vivid imagination and have done a lot of extensive day dreaming in my life including many complex characters who were not me.

Well most of my DCs are mindless, dumb characters, it's always in my DJ.

In my case as long as a DC acts according to my expectations (for example: I would expect my father to be articulate and stubborn), and I can imagine scripting both sides of the exchange without any trouble, I have no reason to doubt that the DC was a figment of my imagination, which is very creative and quite capable of surprising me as well. I have great confidence in my subconscious, due to my self-esteem issues at times my subconscious may have more confidence than my conscious self though. Lol. Oh and given how much my self confidence revolves around my growing up with my father, I would expect there to be issues around that in dreams at times. And even if I am lucid that does not make such issues magically go away, since they are there in waking life and in dreams no matter how aware I am.

Originally Posted by Blackfox

She's wonderful isn't she

Trust her

But

Keep an eye open