^^ That's an excellent example of a delta sleep moment, Dreamcatcher, thank you! |
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One time I remember waking up from sleep in void of nothing. It seemed I was just awareness hovering in a blank space. Fully aware of what was happening I asked A question and that question was answered instantaneously through a hyper vivid symbol. It's gold shimmering appearance just floated in the black void all by its self and I knew it to be the answer I was looking for. :-). |
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"when you fall unconscious, what your mind expresses is a dream.
When you are aware, what your mind expresses is creativity. It creates your life.
When you are in a higher state of consciousness, it not only creates the life of whatever you want, but also on whom ever you want". -LifeBlissFoundation
^^ That's an excellent example of a delta sleep moment, Dreamcatcher, thank you! |
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It was a very specific question. But asked in a commanding manner. As in show me what it is I seek this instant. The answer I received came in the form of a symbol a symbol that was very relevant to what was going on in my life at the time. The information contained in the symbol was not symbolic in its self. Instead It was a crystal clear explanation with out words. I did not question the validity of the symbol or the information that came along with it maybe because of its hyper real appearance. It was like looking at something you've seen every day but in micro scopic detail with out zooming in on the object 1000 times over. I wanted to test the symbol's vality but was too awe struck to focus and write the information down. |
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"when you fall unconscious, what your mind expresses is a dream.
When you are aware, what your mind expresses is creativity. It creates your life.
When you are in a higher state of consciousness, it not only creates the life of whatever you want, but also on whom ever you want". -LifeBlissFoundation
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Yes I don't know how long the initial oblivious stage is. And I agree it could be long. I think there have been times when I feel bored even in that stage though, and am vaguely aware of my surroundings. |
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Yes, awareness during delta seems remarkably conducive to boredom, or at least disinterest. I've tended to find peace in such environments, though (in waking life, too). |
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Well, talk about amazing coincidences. I have just started a thread about this very same topic. |
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^^ Not exactly, but I've definitely experienced similar. My closest image to that would be a thick, thick fog made of whisps of many shades of gray that swirls very slowly. |
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I would like to ask few questions if you don't mind, when we go to sleep for about an hour or 40 minutes and we are getting a lucid dream what happens to Delta and REM? |
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No plans as such, but last night I tried to reach the same state. |
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Usually NREM (of which delta is a substantial part) lasts about 90 minutes in the beginning of a night's sleep. It doesn't need to last that long, but that is typical. As the night wears on, delta periods are shorter and shorter, therefore making REM periods closer and closer together. After several hours of sleep (usually more than 5), REM periods are so close together, and delta periods so short that they are pretty much nonexistent. Delta also tends to be absent during naps, because your body has simply not settled into a full night's sleep. |
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Last edited by Sageous; 08-22-2013 at 02:34 PM.
Sure. In the name of expedience (and sheer laziness), I hope you won't mind if I just quote myself from post #8 of this thread: |
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^^ Which is why it's an excellent idea to attempt LD's during naps. |
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I tried this going to sleep last night, and wow is it ever difficult. I was trying so hard to clear my mind of all thoughts, and it went something like this : |
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Well. That pretty much describes most of my meditation efforts; very familiar indeed! And yet there comes a point when the thoughts finally do slow down to a manageable torrent; a point that for me is reached only with patience and a steady mind that manages somehow to corral the endless random thoughts. There are a few tricks, though: Ever try mantras or (mental) mandalas to ease your mind, or perhaps to help learn to allow the thoughts to pass by unattended? |
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Another thought on this: |
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Sageous, i wrote this topic - http://www.dreamviews.com/general-lu...ll-asleep.html |
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Now I have tried dozens of different so called sound based meditations. |
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I'm not sure what causes that second scenario. My first thought was narcolepsy, but I read the OP on your thread, and see you've already tossed that out. Another guess might be that your sleep cycles don't folow the norm, which can and does happen: you may simply be starting REM earlier, and the NREM occurs at another time... this seems simplistic, but it could be the case. My only other guess, which I'm sure you've also explored, is that you are losing awareness for a time and simply emerging in REM on schedule, but feeling like the transition was instant. |
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If I understand what flowofmysoul is talking about, I think this is common. My sister does this, and my friend who doesn't dream very lucidly does this. Probably a lot of other people do it I think, most people just don't talk about this sort of thing. They just relax and their imagination goes free, like a dream, then their mind lets go of the 'outward' control and they're asleep and dreaming. It doesn't work that way for me unless I've already been asleep for a long time and have just woken up though. Maybe you can see this in my ponderously analytical nature - that part of my mind doesn't let go very easily. |
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Thx for your reply. I already answered to a similar question regarding lost awareness in OP. |
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In the beginning when I just started lucid dreaming I also could do this only when I just woke up. Some part of it is different and some is the same, I cannot say that process of going back to dream is absolutely identical to the process of going to dream from awake. |
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Oh I am grateful I found this, although somewhat late. |
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Check your memory, did any suprising event happpen ? does the present make sense ? visualize what you will do when lucid, and how. Reality check as reminder of your intention to lucid dream tonight. Sleep as good as you can; when going to sleep, relax and invite whatever comes with curiosity. Grab your dream journal immediately as you awake and write everything you can recall (if only when you wake up for good). Keep calm, positive and persistent, and don't forget to have fun along the way
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