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      Ok this sounds really stupid I know but I've had this thought in mind for a while now. Here's my situation:

      There's a girl in school I like but there are some complications:

      1. We haven's spoken in a year since it was about a year ago that she and my friend broke up, and btw that's how we came in contact in the first place.
      2. She could be considered as too good-looking for me.
      3. She barely knows me.
      4. Any way at all contacting her would feel awkward.

      EXCEPT:

      Through my dreams.

      If I manage to have a shared dream with her that would be a way of contacting her and make her interested in me and we'll have something in common to talk about, providing that she can remember her dreams...

      So my questions to you are:

      How can I increase the proability of inducing a shared lucid dream? Any tips?
      How likely do you think it is that I'll succeed

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      Currently practicing WILD. I quote Kaniaz who said it best: "The point of WILD is to piss me off". Though, I have not given up, far from it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by BohmaN View Post
      2. She could be considered as too good-looking for me.
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      As long as if you start with this idea in mind, you will never get her, no matter how many astral prjections, voodoo or shared dreams you make. Dude, for a woman, the equivalent of what we, men, appreciate on the opposite sex (the looks), it's the male's PERSONALITY. There is no too-good-looking woman for a man.. It's all about self confidence and personality. Trust me, i didn't invent that; it's the conclusion of many pschologists and antropoligists.


      Now.. i don't see that approaching her in real life would be a problem. Ask her what you shoudl buy to her cousin on her birthday, when she passes by you. Voila.. you start a conversation with her. It's not that hard, you know...

      And regarding the shared dreams, i personally do not believe that you can influence other person's subconscious mind. I mean.. i've once seen a Derren Brown's show (a well known psychologist/illusionist from The United Kingdom) that managed to induce a certain dream to one person. But he used a variety of subliminal messages, manipulation and pyshcology techniques to do that. I do not think you have the necesarely tools to do induce a certain dream to one person.
      Plus... what if she has almost no dream recall? Inducing her a "shared" dream that she will forget 2 minutes after she woke up.. What a pity

      Stop thinking. Go *have sex with* her. (don't wanna be rude/hurt your feelings)

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      1. We haven's spoken in a year since it was about a year ago that she and my friend broke up, and btw that's how we came in contact in the first place.
      2. She could be considered as too good-looking for me.
      3. She barely knows me.[/b]
      Come on stop being so shallow. I know your going by looks, which is wrong as you proberly have nothing in common with her. Well you can waste your time trying. Plus your shared dream plan sounds stupid or about 1% chance of working. Then again the chances of a shallow guy thinking he is ugly going for the pretty girl who he hasen't talked to in a year is bleak. I say it again stop being so shallow you need to go for someone with personality and if she hot then thats a bonus.
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      The planet Earth exhibits all of these properties and therefore can be considered alive and its own single organism by the scientific definition.
      7. Reproduction: The ability to produce new organisms.
      does the planet Earth reproduce, well no unless you count the moon.

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      Quote Originally Posted by wendylove View Post
      Come on stop being so shallow. I know your going by looks, which is wrong as you proberly have nothing in common with her. Well you can waste your time trying. Plus your shared dream plan sounds stupid or about 1% chance of working. Then again the chances of a shallow guy thinking he is ugly going for the pretty girl who he hasen't talked to in a year is bleak. I say it again stop being so shallow you need to go for someone with personality and if she hot then thats a bonus.
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      Thanks for you input, both of you. The thing is I don't know what I'm going to say if I come up'n talk to her.

      Well I'm not in love with her but I'd like to get to know her better plus she seems nice too. I haven't liked her in a whole year if you think so... it's only lately that I've just started to gain interest in her.
      Currently practicing WILD. I quote Kaniaz who said it best: "The point of WILD is to piss me off". Though, I have not given up, far from it.

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      Try one of those cheesy movie pick up actions.

      Drop your school books in front of her and say "Oh, excuse me " Then have a chat with her.

      For all you know she could be trying to find a way to talk to you, or even have a shared dream with you

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      Well I'm not in love with her but I'd like to get to know her better plus she seems nice too. I haven't liked her in a whole year if you think so... it's only lately that I've just started to gain interest in her.[/b]
      One key advice don't be weird. Become friends first and then ask her out. If you can't do that in the first place just except it wasen't to be.
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      The planet Earth exhibits all of these properties and therefore can be considered alive and its own single organism by the scientific definition.
      7. Reproduction: The ability to produce new organisms.
      does the planet Earth reproduce, well no unless you count the moon.

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      Quote Originally Posted by hyper0105 View Post
      Try one of those cheesy movie pick up actions.

      Drop your school books in front of her and say "Oh, excuse me " Then have a chat with her.

      For all you know she could be trying to find a way to talk to you, or even have a shared dream with you
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      Actually that one is very underrated, good tip . I'll post the results if I decide to try it
      Currently practicing WILD. I quote Kaniaz who said it best: "The point of WILD is to piss me off". Though, I have not given up, far from it.

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      XD I've been thinking about trying to have a shared dream with a gal I like. But I haven't thought about making it into a book. If you don't do it, expect me to!
      LD Count: 7
      Longest time in a lucid dreamstate: ~6 seconds

      Still, the most epic six seconds I have ever experienced...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Drk View Post
      XD I've been thinking about trying to have a shared dream with a gal I like. But I haven't thought about making it into a book. If you don't do it, expect me to!
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      If I succeed it will be an autobiography, but if I don't perhaps I'll consider writing a novel instead
      No tips yet on inducing a shared dream? Are they just random?
      Currently practicing WILD. I quote Kaniaz who said it best: "The point of WILD is to piss me off". Though, I have not given up, far from it.

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      I wish I could help you more, as I'm deeply involved in the shared dream phenomenon (a.k.a. I really want to do it and am learning how).

      The best advice I think would be to keep trying to lucid dream, and once you get better do a standard warp. "I will close my eyes, and when I open them I will be in *****'s dream environment." or something. Good luck!
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      Still, the most epic six seconds I have ever experienced...

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      Having a shared dream instead of approaching her is very impractical. The trouble is that most shared dreams happen between people who know each other quite well, and here you hope to have with someone because you *want* to get to know her.

      Besides which - in a woman's mind - if you can't drum up the courage to talk to her, then you're probably not worth it.
      Put aside your fears and worries and chat to her about something she seems to be interested in.
      If you can't find anything, just look for any old thing. Favourite colour, mannerism, school subject, teacher, whatever.

      If you really don't know what to say, just say you think she's cool and what hobbies does a person like her have. Then show an interest in what she likes and ask if you can tag along to something. Just cos it's cool.

      I know it sounds difficult and 'left field'.. but once you're past that you'll wonder why it was so hard.

      Now, if you really want to bring dreams into it - try have a lucid dream and recreate the situation of speaking to her.
      If your fears come out (they might), then remind yourself that it's a dream and keep badgering her and confronting the fear.
      It'll help you drum up the courage to approach her.
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      If you do manage to pull it off, I'm thinking she may not appreciate a dream stalker.

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      Problems...
      A) She doesn't remember her dreams
      B) I have dreams about people all the time. But I don't go to them and say "HI I HAD A DREAM WITH YOU." You can't really bring it up... "Hi have you had a dream about me yet?," and I highly doubt she will.
      C) Just talk to her...
      D) "Shared dreams" are not what I would call "possible."
      E) Why would she like you more if you were in her dream? That really wouldn't make much of a difference if she isn't interested in you in the first place.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ataraxis View Post
      Problems...
      A) She doesn't remember her dreams
      B) I have dreams about people all the time. But I don't go to them and say "HI I HAD A DREAM WITH YOU." You can't really bring it up... "Hi have you had a dream about me yet?," and I highly doubt she will.
      C) Just talk to her...
      D) "Shared dreams" are not what I would call "possible."
      E) Why would she like you more if you were in her dream? That really wouldn't make much of a difference if she isn't interested in you in the first place.
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      A) Probably not, yeah this is a problem. I'll have to send subliminal messages to her though msn
      B) Well my plan is that I give her a password and encourage her to put it in her 'comment' on msn (yeah I have her msn, but once I wrote to her and she didn't write back, haven't dared saying a word since then :/) or if she want's to she can write it to me or talk to me personally, providing that she's convinced that we've had a shared dream. I'll have to convince her somehow.
      C) It's not that easy when we don't really know each other just to go to her and say "hi". It somehow feels awkward, and plus I'm pretty shy too... I don't think she's interested in me... (yet) ... I probably know her better than she knows me lol...
      D) I believe it's possible
      E) She'd probably get interested in what I'm doing and we'd have something great to talk about... a way to get to know each other better.
      Currently practicing WILD. I quote Kaniaz who said it best: "The point of WILD is to piss me off". Though, I have not given up, far from it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by BohmaN View Post
      A) Probably not, yeah this is a problem. I'll have to send subliminal messages to her though msn
      B) Well my plan is that I give her a password and encourage her to put it in her 'comment' on msn (yeah I have her msn, but once I wrote to her and she didn't write back, haven't dared saying a word since then :/) or if she want's to she can write it to me or talk to me personally, providing that she's convinced that we've had a shared dream. I'll have to convince her somehow.
      C) It's not that easy when we don't really know each other just to go to her and say "hi". It somehow feels awkward, and plus I'm pretty shy too... I don't think she's interested in me... (yet) ... I probably know her better than she knows me lol...
      D) I believe it's possible
      E) She'd probably get interested in what I'm doing and we'd have something great to talk about... a way to get to know each other better.
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      That's obviously your problem because if you though that she would be interested, you'd have asked her out already. Stop thinking now. Thinking about it in the way you've been thinking will not help you.

      Here's what you will do. BTW I don't expect you to just walk up to her and say "HI" right away.

      There are things you are doing inside your head that are killing you mojo and you can change that. First, let's take an inventory of what that is. When you think about walking up to her, what do you do inside your head. If I were to guess you either make pictures or you talk to yourself or both. The pictures probably go like this: you picture yourself walking up to her and make a real fool of yourself and she laugh at you. Your self-talk probably goes like this: " She's not going to like you. You're gonna make a fool out of yourself. and so on" Have no sweat you can change it.

      Stop torturing yourself because all of it is in your head. You can't tell how she thinks of you until you ask her. And the worst that is going to happen is that you are going to KNOW what she thinks. Start making nice pictures and talking nicely to yourself. Replace those pictures with ones in which you are acting confidently and she reacts positively to your approach. Start telling yourself to go for it and to seize the day. You only live once buddy. I'm saying this because that's how those guys with a lot of confidence think. I'm sure you have a frame of reference where you thought positively of the eventual outcome and acheive a positive outcome. The same can be applied to girls.

      Another thing you can do, and this requires a little imagination, is to play around with your feelings. When you think about walking up and talking to her, you get a pretty intense feeling...maybe even fear. You could even be sitting in front of your computer and manage to get that feeling again. If you need a little help, just imagine yourself in the situation where you would feel those feeling, see what you would see through your eyes, heat what you would hear, think what you would normally think. Once you get the feeling going, notice where it starts. Does it start in your toes, you stomach your chest or your head. Next pay attention to where the feeling goes. The feeling will loop back to where it started from. Notice which way it spins. Now, and this is the important part, take the spinning feeling out of your body, turn it around and bring it back in your body. Feel the feeling spinning in the opposite direction, now spin faster and faster and faster. Spinning it so fast in the opposite direction, think of the situation that brought on the feeling in the first place and try in vain to feel the way you felt earlier. You won't be able to feel bad no matter how hard you try.

      If this doesn't help or if your having problems with this tech, PM me.
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      Just don't take showers for a few days, just deoderize up, and wash your hair of course. We have these things called pheromones that are hormones released from the body that attract the opposite sex to us. That should help with the confidence part.
      "As long as I am this or that, or have this or that, I am not all things and I have not all things. Become pure till you neither are nor have either this or that; then you are omnipresent and, being neither this nor that, are all things." -Eckhart

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      Quote Originally Posted by Zaltoa View Post
      Just don't take showers for a few days, just deoderize up, and wash your hair of course. We have these things called pheromones that are hormones released from the body that attract the opposite sex to us. That should help with the confidence part. [/b]
      lol I'm not positive if he's just joking

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      Quote Originally Posted by Zaltoa View Post
      Just don't take showers for a few days, just deoderize up, and wash your hair of course. We have these things called pheromones that are hormones released from the body that attract the opposite sex to us. That should help with the confidence part.[/b]
      Lmfao, you better not think I'm joking. They found out about human pheromones in the late 80's I believe and have been testing on them since. It's been known in the animal kingdom because of the different groups of animals and their mating season. When we shower every morning our pheromones are washed off our bodies and thats why you never notice a difference. Don't shower for a few days, but still make yourself smell nice. I'm sure you'll notice how the ladies change around you. More eye contact and smiles. Any woman will choose you over another guy if you are sporting some pheromones because its a smell that is picked up by their subconscious mind which makes them attracted to you. Trust me it works, just try it. People only think you smell if they know you havent showered. Just don't tell anyone, it's all psychological. It makes them want to be around you, and not to mention it makes you feel alot more better about yourself.

      Oh and bohman it will help get rid of the awkward feeling or that nasty gut feeling with a racing heart beat because it makes everything alot smoother for some reason. Really easy to talk.
      "As long as I am this or that, or have this or that, I am not all things and I have not all things. Become pure till you neither are nor have either this or that; then you are omnipresent and, being neither this nor that, are all things." -Eckhart

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