What are the dangers while in the AP?

**mygreybear** · 09-29-2007 12:35 AM

I just read a post that said:

"Remember before practicing any Astral Projection technique, to fully understand the dangers of the Planes. You can be seriously injured or even worse if not careful, a fate worse then death for sure. Such things such as Night Stalkers and Succumbi can be a real pain in the neck if your not careful to avoid them."

How do you avoid things like this and what can it do to you if you don't?

**Xyn** · 09-29-2007 12:49 AM

Don't worry. Those kind of things cannot harm you physically.

**mygreybear** · 09-29-2007 12:51 AM

Thanks ^.^

**durza2016** · 09-29-2007 12:53 AM

You're new...Welcome... Next time put this in the beyond dreaming section.

to answer your question...the person who wrote that is not a figure head for astral projection.

I been reasearching astral projection and there are two aurguments

astral projection is dangerous

astral projection is just as dangerous as sleeping

You won't know until you experience these things.

My opinion is that astral projection is fine to do...i don't know if your actually soul traveling...i've never confirmed that...but i will tell you that you really can see out of your body. Weather or not it's real i have not found out yet.

I personaly believe that your thoughts manifest themselves on the astral plane...So if you think "I'm going to get attacked by a demon"

you will.

But if your just in a zen like state you will be fine.

by the way how would one know if a person died APing.
Last time I checked the dead don't come back and tell you how they died
(Note: There are exceptions)

**mygreybear** · 09-29-2007 01:14 AM

I understand this topic a lot better now, thanks so much!

**Wildstar** · 09-29-2007 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by durza2016

I personaly believe that your thoughts manifest themselves on the astral plane...So if you think "I'm going to get attacked by a demon"

you will.

Whatever you do, don't think of the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man...

**italianmonkey** · 09-29-2007 01:42 AM

welcome

shouldn't this be moved to the Beyond Dreaming section?

don't worry for what people here says, many like to be dramatic and that's all.
probably acting like paranoids and scaring the others makes them feel better or something

**mygreybear** · 09-29-2007 02:16 AM

LOL!! Roger =P
P.S - Sorry for putting this in the wrong section =O

**Wavefunction** · 09-29-2007 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by mygreybear

LOL!! Roger =P
P.S - Sorry for putting this in the wrong section =O

No problem. I already PMed Burns about it, but she logged off a few seconds after I sent it

**Oneironaught** · 09-29-2007 02:44 AM

This subject is mired in controversy. There's not much argument about whether it's "real". The question is what it "really is". In all likelihood (plus some) it's nothing more than another form of dreaming - a close relative to lucid dreaming.

So, given the apparent fact that AP is only a form of dream-like state, I'd say not to worry at all. Worrying makes advanced dream states harder to indulge in.

Enjoy your adventures and have no fear.

**C911** · 09-29-2007 04:25 AM

The only real dangers are the ones you go looking for. If your not looking for something dangerous, and your not doing anything in a negative way to anyone or anything, you will be just fine.

Look up the topic about Succumbi though, its kind of fun to read, i havent ever seen a succumbi but after reading the thread it sounds kind of interesting to say the least.

But dont worry, AP is entirely safe, and even if you do get caught by something out there, (to my knowledge) you wont "die" from it. Your heart and your brain is what keeps you alive, and both of those stay in the human shell.

The only thing that can happen is becoming sick, and/or loosing a bunch of energy..

But again, these are rare things to find, and you shouldnt be worried at all about them. Just have fun AP'ng

**LucidFlanders** · 09-29-2007 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by C911

The only real dangers are the ones you go looking for. If your not looking for something dangerous, and your not doing anything in a negative way to anyone or anything, you will be just fine.

Look up the topic about Succumbi though, its kind of fun to read, i havent ever seen a succumbi but after reading the thread it sounds kind of interesting to say the least.

But dont worry, AP is entirely safe, and even if you do get caught by something out there, (to my knowledge) you wont "die" from it. Your heart and your brain is what keeps you alive, and both of those stay in the human shell.

The only thing that can happen is becoming sick, and/or loosing a bunch of energy..

But again, these are rare things to find, and you shouldnt be worried at all about them. Just have fun AP'ng

So APing is a dream you say? because if you stayed in your body then it's not real.

**Pegasis** · 09-29-2007 06:19 PM

I have travelled far with Astrall Travelling and I would like to know the speed you travel at with Astral Travelling in either MILES per HOUR or KILOMETERS per HOUR. Does it even have a different unit of Measurement?

**C911** · 09-29-2007 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

So APing is a dream you say? because if you stayed in your body then it's not real.

No, that is not what im saying. What i said was the brain and the heart (the things that keep your body going) stay in your body. You cant physically take them out of your body and move with them, that would be just plain weird. Your energy body and your concious is what goes along with you, not your actual organs.

And i dont think AP is a dream, at all.

And i dont know what speed we travel in, its a good question though.

**Jeff777** · 09-29-2007 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by mygreybear

I just read a post that said:

"Remember before practicing any Astral Projection technique, to fully understand the dangers of the Planes. You can be seriously injured or even worse if not careful, a fate worse then death for sure. Such things such as Night Stalkers and Succumbi can be a real pain in the neck if your not careful to avoid them."

How do you avoid things like this and what can it do to you if you don't?

I don't know whose qualified enough to answer your question. I think a person who should answer your question should be very knowledgeable about the Astral Planes, what creatures lie therein, and also have some experience out of body.

Sadly I'm not qualified ENOUGH to answer your question so I'll paraphrase something by someone who is...Albert Taylor. In the planes there exists all manner of beings, some humans, some other ap'ers and other creatures that your mind can't conceive of how they look. Some of these creatures are wise and very very old. But not all of them are to be trusted. Some will blatantly take advantage of your "Astral N00bie-ness" and try and trick you in some manner or hurt you. As far as "can they physically kill you?" He hasn't said, but I imagine they could give you one hell of a serious mind fuck.

**Oneironaught** · 09-29-2007 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

So APing is a dream you say? because if you stayed in your body then it's not real.

I'll admit that I am not "qualified" to give a proper answer either. But I absolutely believe that AP is nothing more than a dream-like state. Same goes for OBEs. But, even with that in mind, I don't think that makes it any less real. It just makes it different in nature than what the common concept of AP is. However, when it comes to dream-like states, nature and experience are not the same thing.

As with any dream, the physical occurrence may not be "real" but the experience is 100% real. It's all a matter of understanding the context.

**Michael** · 09-30-2007 12:37 AM

You won't find any dangers unless you go into it wanting to harm other people. There are plenty of things to take care of you if you're going to do this.

Actually, I've sleep walked during AP one time. So maybe this can happen to more people.

**durza2016** · 09-30-2007 01:03 AM

that's mad funny.

**U-mos** · 09-30-2007 04:54 AM

its fairly easy to stay safe wile APing if you ever do get into trouble all you have to do is think you need to get back to your body or be scared and you should snap back to safty into your body

oh sweet my favorite song

**C911** · 09-30-2007 05:00 AM

Yes, your mind is still connected to your body at all times, and if you can make your physical body wake up by:

1. wanting to go back
2. making your body move in a weird way
3. making your body scared

then you get back easy. So all of the dangers are not something to be worried about.

**mygreybear** · 09-30-2007 09:09 PM

Oh okay so I shouldn't be in any immediate danger unless I go looking for it. Thanks guys!

**vintagevixen44** · 10-01-2007 03:46 AM

I don't have any first hand experience with Astral Projection, but I have read some on the subject. Here are some interesting sites/accounts on astral projection that I found . . .

1. The Astral Society . . . A website and message board on Astral Projection
2. Erin Pavlina . . . She claims to have astral projected for years and has some interesting experiences.
3. Robert Peterson . . . I orginally found his info. about communicating with the subconscious, but he has interesting accounts of trying to astrally project.

**C911** · 10-01-2007 03:55 AM

Can you link us vintage vixen?

**vintagevixen44** · 10-05-2007 03:00 AM

Here are the links . . .

Astral Society . . . http://www.astralsociety.com/index.php

Erin Pavlina's Blog including her Astral Projection Experiences . . . http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006...ics-explained/

Robert Peterson Astral Projection Link . . . http://www.robertpeterson.org/obebook.html

**Original Poster** · 10-06-2007 01:09 AM

Just keep in mind even if the beings are real and not just figments of your subconscious that are thrust upon you nothing has power over you that you don't give it.