Originally Posted by skuruza
i found out a little more about it- something about parallel dimensions orsomething, i do not fully understand... i don't know she warns me and believes this. i told her that its proven that dreams are a product of your subconcious, but she says the soul leaves and gets trapped.
i will post later when i read it more.
Pretending for a second a soul does exist, why does it make any sense that it would get trapped inside it's hosts body's mind? It's own mind, essentially? I mean, come on.
Originally Posted by unseen wombat
At the risk of being the pariah of Dreamviews, I'm going to disagree with everyone here.
I'm not saying it's absolutely true what your grandma told you. I'm saying that I don't know. For everyone posting in this thread to boldly say "No, there is absolutely NO danger in LD's. The soul DOES NOT even exist," takes a real lot of balls. HTF do you know there is no soul? HTF do you know that people who died in their sleep didn't get lost in a dream?
Well, for the same reason I don't believe in invisible pink unicorns I don't believe in a soul. Zero evidence. If there was even a single shred of evidence I might take the idea seriously, but there isn't.
Originally Posted by unseen wombat
You're all just like the first cosmonauts who came back to earth and brazenly declared, "Wellp, we've been to 'heaven.' Didn't see God there! He doesn't exist!"
With regards to OP's question, I'm going to give you the first honest answer this thread has seen. Here it is: I don't know, and guess what, no one else knows either. Everyone has their opinion. But you know what they say about opinions and a**holes. Everyone has one, and everyone thinks theirs is the only one that doesn't stink. So your grandma may be right, she may be wrong. I would venture to say that the people who wrote that book though have about as much evidence to back up what they say as the people you've asked here, which is none. Yes, I fall into that category too.
Who has a better chance of being right? Us, who have opinions based in science, or his grandma who recently read a bullshit book? I mean, come on. Taking your stance I could tell you that eating any kind of food Monday through Friday is going to kill you. You'd still eat food wouldn't you? Of course! It'd be stupid of you not to considering I said something with absolutely no evidence towards it. Use some common sense. Those people that wrote that book have no evidence. Just because it's printed and published doesn't make it true.
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Originally Posted by unseen wombat
Secondly, in some things you're right. I don't deny that I'm glad that at some point people started saying hey, demons don't cause disease, germs and viruses do, and there's something we can actually do about it. That's great that we have drugs and surgeries instead of rituals. In other things however, scientists scale the cliffs of ignorance, and finally reach the summit and enlightenment, only to find a bunch of religious leaders who have been sitting there for centuries. (I forget where I heard that quote, but it's not mine). For example, a small, and maybe a weak example, granted:
In the beginning... God said, "let there be light," and there was light.
For years people scoffed at this. "How can there be light with no stars to create it?" Yet, from wikipedia's article on the big bang, "A similar process happened at about 1 second for electrons and positrons. After these annihilations, the remaining protons, neutrons and electrons were no longer moving relativistically and the energy density of the universe was dominated by photons (with a minor contribution from neutrinos)."
Yes, photons. And there was light.
I'm sure there are better examples, but that was the first one that popped into my head.
Just don't be so quick to dismiss everything you don't understand as superstitious nonsense. No, you don't know there is no such thing as a soul. Just because a belief is old, doesn't mean automatically that it's wrong.
That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard someone say. I mean, are you even serious right now? I'm not even sure how the Bible saying god say "let there be light" even relates or somehow proves a point. So you're saying since the Bible says light was created at one point, that it was right that light was created at one point? I really have no idea where you were going with that. Shed some, ahem, light on that if you will.
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