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      Smile Real Astral Projection

      What is astral projection? The astral projection is a way of spirit to leave physical body and go to spiritual dimension or astral dimension, in a form of astral body, to be expert in astral project it is first step to find mystery and a countless number of realities rather than the dimension of human

      There are countless realities which is more advance than the world of human, in that realities everything will happen, there’s no impossible.

      You will be amaze if you can enter to the dimension of elementals, angels, and other higher being which very powerful supernatural creatures rather than man.

      The astral combat are one of the most things that experienced by the projector, it maybe adventured them or maybe can enable big fear to them, the astral world is the real world, you must treat that all things that you will find in the astral dimension are not just created by your own mind, you will find everything, you will see the real astral being, astral entity, both negative and positive spirit, what if you will face a demon angel? what would you do? will you treat them as part of your own mind? or another higher being that really existed and have their own power, strength and life, and you know that you must respect any other being that you find in the spiritual world, so that you can protect yourself in any danger that they can be done to you!!!!

      You must treat the spiritual dimension as much as you treat in the world of human, you must accept that if in the world you can face the good and bad people that they have their own life and mind that they really existed, then you must also accept that in the spiritual world you can face the good and bad spirit, that they really have their own life and their have their own mind, and they really existed, you must be very careful for every move and act you've done in the astral world, you must be observer in every strange place, every dimension, every realities you've find there.

      visit these post next and I'll going to update it soon and teach more about astral projection

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      Quote Originally Posted by dreammagic66 View Post
      What is astral projection? The astral projection is a way of spirit to leave physical body and go to spiritual dimension or astral dimension, in a form of astral body..
      Now.. I have done this a lot.. but I call it "Lucid Dreaming".. from that definition of yours it would appear that there is no difference between the two..

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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneiro View Post
      Now.. I have done this a lot.. but I call it "Lucid Dreaming".. from that definition of yours it would appear that there is no difference between the two..
      so you are able to fly in city in real time? or see what your parents are doing? and then you wake up, you know what they really did it?
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      Roguext22.. you don't read very well, do you?

      Dreammagic66 wrote: "..go to spiritual dimension or astral dimension.."

      Who's talking about the "waking" reality? Nobody.

      Unless he/she includes the "waking reality" in the "astral dimension", which I certainly wouldn't..
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      i call lucid dreaming - then you wake up in a dream, not then you leave the body while body sleeps.. because body sleeps in reality, not in some kind of astral dimension..

      and if there is an astral dimension - it should be fixed..always the same..like the earth - always the same.. everyday you go outside, you see same houses, same shops..

      so you go to the same astral dimension everytime right? - that sounds like you are very rare master here..
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      Quote Originally Posted by roguext22 View Post
      i call lucid dreaming - then you wake up in a dream, not then you leave the body while body sleeps.. because body sleeps in reality, not in some kind of astral dimension..

      and if there is an astral dimension - it should be fixed..always the same..like the earth - always the same.. everyday you go outside, you see same houses, same shops..

      so you go to the same astral dimension everytime right? - that sounds like you are very rare master here..
      hi oneiro and roguext22 you two has a good future in doing astral projection, you two has a right mind and belief on how can make AP and also Lucid dreaming good luck let's try to connect each other while we are asleep and leave our physical body and go to astral dimension, astral dimension are deeply connected to lucid dream because when we leave our physical bodies we go to astral dimension whatever kind of dimension is that is still astral dimension.
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      how can we meet in being out of body..if i am here, in real life, in earth.. not in some astral lucid dream fantasy world.. i will not be able to go into that one realm( dimension )of oneiro or dreammagic66...

      all i can is to go out of body.. in my room..to fly a bit.. <- thats because i dont try anymore..not interested..
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      You call it a dimension. Our world has 3 spatial dimensions, so how many would the astral world be? And if you could see what your parents are doing isn't that still this world?

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      Actually I believe our world has approximately 11 spatial dimensions (maybe 12 I can't remember) according to String Theory, although we're only aware of 4 at any given time (4th being the perception of time passing).

      I'm all for lucid dreaming, I believe it can be great fun and a way to explore yourself, new situations or scenarios. I have yet to achieve it (I accept this fact as my efforts aren't exactly as dedicated as they could be, given there is rarely a day where I can sleep in the next in order to wake up several times and write in a dream journal!) however I always take things like "astral projection" with a hefty pinch of salt.

      I'd like to believe in it, the idea that using nothing but a disciplined human mind we can explore the wonders of this universe and countless others from the comfort of our own bedrooms, but then I'd like to believe in God to, a nice big bearded father figure in the sky ready and waiting with open arms to give me paradise when I die. I am, alas, a scientist at heart, and require significant proof to actually believe such things...

      Lucid dreaming I can believe because I know dreams exist (hey, we've all had them!) and I know the conscious mind can be a powerful tool in altering scenarios within our own mind. It makes sense, its logical, and I have actually experienced it once before (by pure coincidence through no effort of my own) and thus lucid dreaming is real. The thing with astral projection...well, whereas in lucid dreaming I know I am dreaming, with projection of any kind, how do I know I'm not still dreaming? Sure I may be able to control my actions, but if anything that just puts into the realm of lucid dreaming as well?
      So...which is real, the pink one or the black one?

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      hello roguex,

      just concentrate and relax before you sleep and thinks much about any person or astral entity that you want to meet for example me!!! and that's it after a couple of effort and belief you will not only meet me in the dream time but ofcourse you can also meet all other projector

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      Quote Originally Posted by TimeStopper View Post
      You call it a dimension. Our world has 3 spatial dimensions, so how many would the astral world be? And if you could see what your parents are doing isn't that still this world?
      hello timestopper,

      you only thinks about the 3 dimension in these world but if you think the whole universe you will find that there are more countless realities and dimension

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      Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Quaze View Post
      Actually I believe our world has approximately 11 spatial dimensions (maybe 12 I can't remember) according to String Theory, although we're only aware of 4 at any given time (4th being the perception of time passing).

      I'm all for lucid dreaming, I believe it can be great fun and a way to explore yourself, new situations or scenarios. I have yet to achieve it (I accept this fact as my efforts aren't exactly as dedicated as they could be, given there is rarely a day where I can sleep in the next in order to wake up several times and write in a dream journal!) however I always take things like "astral projection" with a hefty pinch of salt.

      I'd like to believe in it, the idea that using nothing but a disciplined human mind we can explore the wonders of this universe and countless others from the comfort of our own bedrooms, but then I'd like to believe in God to, a nice big bearded father figure in the sky ready and waiting with open arms to give me paradise when I die. I am, alas, a scientist at heart, and require significant proof to actually believe such things...

      Lucid dreaming I can believe because I know dreams exist (hey, we've all had them!) and I know the conscious mind can be a powerful tool in altering scenarios within our own mind. It makes sense, its logical, and I have actually experienced it once before (by pure coincidence through no effort of my own) and thus lucid dreaming is real. The thing with astral projection...well, whereas in lucid dreaming I know I am dreaming, with projection of any kind, how do I know I'm not still dreaming? Sure I may be able to control my actions, but if anything that just puts into the realm of lucid dreaming as well?
      hello andrew quaze,

      not all dream experience are compose of lucid dreams, it was based on your ability to be a lucid dreamer, the more you become expert in lucid dream the more you will know that you are in dreaming, i'll be surprised about your post because it seems to me that you are not a beginner in lucid dreaming because you have some true knowledge about dreams and lucid dream, you have some excellent skill, still be smart and excellent as you are, and 1 day you will going to know more about the hidden secret of the universe though astral projection and lucid dreaming

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      A lot of people seem to miss understand exactly what astral projection is because they never actually experienced it and haven't read much about it.

      Lucid Dreaming happens in your dream world (inside your subconscious) however it is possible to switch awareness to the Astral Dimension while having a lucid dream.

      The thing about to make it more clear is that you have a projectable double for each dimension. When sleeping there is...
      - Physical mind and body
      - Etheric mind and body
      - real time mind and body
      - Astral mind and body
      - Dream mind and body

      There are many higher selfs, but this is just to simplify everything. Now the thing about this is that we project in all these bodies every time we go to sleep the reason why we don't know is because we can't recall due to the shadow memory going into areas of our minds that we can't access.

      There are times though that you may think you were dreaming or had a false awakening when really you became aware of you astral or real time body.

      Astral dimension is the plane in the astral world

      Real time dimension is where you are projected in a copy of the real world...as if you were a ghost. Just like a dream though if you think to hard or expect to see a certain thing then you'll see it.

      to confirm this...if you were to project in the real time zone you could fly up out of earth and land anywhere on earth and explore the area.

      The thing that makes this difficult is actually remembering these things happening.

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      Check out this site:
      http://www.astral-projection.org/?offer=Rebeckon&pid=1

      Mindpowernews.com reccommended it and said it works every time to induce astral projection. It uses a range of frequencies - alpha and theta to generate a shift in consciousness. Anyone use this?
      "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people"

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      Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Quaze View Post
      we're only aware of 4 at any given time (4th being the perception of time passing).
      No they are 3. The perception of time passing is not a diffrent dimension. Its a dimension when we can move in it.(or something like that)
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      Just downloaded it i'll give it a try. I want to know if this is real, i am going to do some tests which will prove if it is real or not. I am quite sure it is real after my last experience but this way i will know for sure.

      I really can't see it working straight away but i hope i am wrong.

      I would like to hear people's experiences.

      Also which one are you meant to listen to? You receive 5 different audio's.
      Last edited by mylucidworld; 01-28-2008 at 12:16 AM.

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      Once you've tested them out report back here if you can.
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      Some are born to endless night

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      Yes, please do. I would love to see how they work out.
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      Yes and then distribute illegal copies of the audio to your pals on dreamviews...
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      Quote Originally Posted by dragonoverlord View Post
      Once you've tested them out report back here if you can.
      Will do. I might try it in a short while.

      Quote Originally Posted by Walfe View Post
      Yes, please do. I would love to see how they work out.
      Yeh me too.

      Quote Originally Posted by dragonoverlord View Post
      Yes and then distribute illegal copies of the audio to your pals on dreamviews...
      Yeh, heheheh.

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      Do you know if you have to do anything or do you just relax, listen to the audio and hope it works?

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      Here is the FAQ:

      IF I ASTRAL PROJECT OUT OF MY BODY HOW DO I RETURN?

      Going back is easy. Staying out is the hard part. Just thinking of your
      physical body causes you to be instantly pulled back. It takes some
      training to be able to stay out for extended times and of course it’s
      perfectly safe.



      IT WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO ACTUALLY RELAX AND LISTEN TO THE ASTRAL
      FREQUENCIES WITH HEADPHONES CONNECTED TO MY COMPUTER SINCE MY COMPUTER
      IS NOT IN A GOOD AREA FOR THIS. I AM NOT ABLE TO LIE DOWN WITH
      HEADPHONES CONNECTED TO THE COMPUTER. ANY SUGGESTIONS?

      There are several options available.

      1) Copy the Astral Frequencies to a CD so you can play it on a CD
      player. You will of course need a CD burner installed in your computer for
      this. See your CD burner software for instructions on how to do this.

      2) If you own an mp3 player you can request the Astral Frequencies in
      .MP3 format and put the file on your MP3 player to listen to.

      3) Simply use headphones with a nice long cord plugged into your
      computer and try to use a very comfortable chair to relax in.



      HOW LONG DOES IT REALLY TAKE TO HAVE AN ASTRAL PROJECTION?

      For most people, they have a strange experience on the first try but
      others need a little mental conditioning. The dulling of the senses is
      the first stage of projection, the second is the vibrations felt over the
      body and the third is the separation itself.

      Try to get yourself comfortable in a tranquil location where you can
      draw the curtains or blinds. You need quite and subdued lighting. I find
      early evening is best for me. Try not to think of anything but allow
      yourself to float out of your physical body and up
      . When you have
      mastered this technique which can take up to 30 days but is very worthwhile,
      you can start to dictate your travel and dreams. You can be the director
      of your own astral projection experience.
      "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people"

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      Well, are there any free ap songs/files/something. Or there are only sellable. May be I could record myself on the shower and use that as a music before trying to AP.
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      I just tried to astral project using the audio for the second time (first time i kept getting interrupted) and well it certainly done something!

      I put it on and just relaxed, then after about 6 minutes i was thinking about how it said a part either happens or it don't so i thought i will play it for a few more minutes, then a few minutes later the front part of my face started going cold, (spreading up my face) then about 30 seconds later my body started feeling paralyzed (starting to get scared) then all of a sudden the audio starts producing funny noises, then a huge ringing noise made me dive out of bed.

      What the f**k was that??????

      I checked the audio and it wasn't on it! Was it some spirit doing that because it come shortly after the feeling of a presence and the coldness up the face? or was it a part of the astral projection process or something else?

      If this was in the day i would have went with it but in the night in the pitch black no. I will try it in the day tomorrow.

      The feeling i had as that ringing occured was like my spirit was trying to get out of my body, i think if i waited a few more moments i would have astrally projected.
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      Ok, I'm only mildy skeptical. So, enlighten me.

      First of all, what are the major differences between the 'astral dimension' and the 'dream/subconscious dimension'?

      It would appear that there are no strict laws in the astral dimension, as you can manipulate the environment. Or am I wrong?

      Furthermore, if the aforementioned is true, how can everyone manipulate an environment that everyone is part of without causing conflicts and implosion to that dimension?

      If indeed, it is merely a 'dimension' then I am assuming it would be modelled after this world, but merely be unobservable to the woken individual? I mean, a dimension only adds another perspective to what is already there. It may allow you to see more, but never less.

      -- The only way I can conceive of further dimensions is by applying the theory of higher levels of consciousness/higher frequencies.

      I'm open minded, and do not seek for empirical evidence. However, I like to understand things. ^_^
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