Thread: OBE while awake (for sure)?...anyone?

yes, i was lying in my bed, i gain control of the other body, i can feel it but i cant move it yet, my eyes are open and i can see the room, i slowly lift myself up out of the physical body, now my vision changes slightly, everything is a lot more grainier (assuming its because im not used to this body), so i fly about in my room then im dragged back to my body,

i snap out again, fly around and im trying to get through the ceiling but i cant.... i couldnt get through the door or the ceiling, again im dragged back to my body,

third time i snap out, i try to go through teh floor this time, cant go through it...., i get dragged back to my body again

fourth time i snap out again, try harder to move through teh ceiling.... cant do it and i get dragged back,

im unable to snap out anymore.... then i fall asleep after trying to snap out for another 10-20mins, im certain i was awake.... the only problem is the point between my normal state and the AP state.... there was a loud ringing noise.... a bit similar to when you enter a lucid dream from the awake state, i think of this ringing as resonance as i change my mental frequency (like using the clutch in a car, the shaking tells you, your at the right spot), someone might interpret it differently to fit their own beliefs =]

A few months ago I was standing around with my friends while watching one of them on a game - a little arcade game for kids or whatever. I was sort of having a "zone-out" moment, which I have a lot, but this time it went way further than usual. I suddenly realized I was floating above everyone and I could truly and honestly see myself standing there down below. I couldn't hear anything. My vision was a little grainy and blurry. When I realized what had happened, I was suddenly pulled back into my body. I was wide awake and it was really cool. My first and only OBE, so far.

Yes i have had one before, well a few times...

the most recent was, a few months back, i was walking as you were,
fully awake, heading home, i pushed open my gate, and that is when
it happened. I came out of my body and assended through time, if that
makes sense. I saw all the people i care about grow up, have families,
finish school, grow old, they were happy, it was many lifetimes rolled into
one quick flash...

then i saw darkness, then a face would light up, comtemplating, then it
would fade, then again, another face, a friend of mine, in his late seventies,..

eventually it was all darkness...

i interpretted it as, after life, the only way you come back is by thought,
when someone thinks of you, for that very short period of time, you appear back
as if summoned... then once again disappear....

then what happens once the people who knew you pass on... and no one remembers you...

what then...

then i came back into my body, and felt overwhelmed beyond description.... i managed to walk to my room, then i collapsed and reflected on the massive amount of imagry i received.

It was an interesting experience to say the least ^_^

I wonder what the cause of this is...OBE'ing while obviously awake.


I must say, it was scary, but yes very interesting!

Eipa and Anonymoose, do you guys ever have dizzy spells?

Because if you don't, it might be possible that it didn't happen to me solely because of a dizzy spell. Maybe?...Maybe not? Who knows.

Nope, I don't have dizzy spells, ever. The only time I get dizzy is when I stand up to fast and get a blood rush in my head.

And this directed to Eipta: I had to re-read your post. That is some experience you had there. I'm not even gonna try to interpret it...lol.


Anonymouse: Oh okay, lucky you! lol. I get them even if I'm just sitting or standing still. And I don't have vertigo so I dunno.

That was my only OBE as well...I never believed OBE's were even possible until it happened to me.

I didn't have a dizzy spell before it, but directly after, due to the overload of information, my brain couldn't handle it, and i felt dizzy and made my way to my room.. no you're not the only one.

Okay.

Well nothing really strange has happened lately.

Anyone else care to share their experience(s) if this has happened to them?

Originally Posted by OnceADreamer

I've been directed to the BD section of DV and to make a short story even shorter....has anyone had an Out of Body Experience while they were SURELY awake?

It happened to me once recently and hasn't happened again, yet. Hopefully it doesn't happen again but I'd like to know. I know for sure that I was awake (though I know that some ppl may not believe me, which is understandable) and I do have dizzy spells more often than I'd like so I chalked it up to a dizzy spell that gave me this feeling. I was walking and went to turn around and that's when it happened and when the brief moment was over, I felt normal again. But while I felt this feeling, it sort of freaked me out enough to ask.

Were you sleep deprived, on drugs, or dehydrated when this happened? I've never had anything like this happen to me. Have you had many OBEs prior to this experience, where you were not wide awake?

I've heard of this happening before. In fact, several authors who write on OBEs report that they have had these "spontaneous OBEs", although rarely. However, this only occurred after they had a few normal OBEs under their belt. I've speculated that this was caused by a looser connection between their astral double and physical energy system, caused by their prior OBEs. On the other hand, this is only a theory. I can't be positive that that was the cause.

If nothing that I've mentioned above applies to you, then I think you might be having some kind of health issue. I recommend you see a doctor pronto. Those dizzy spells are disconcerting.

Wasn't sleep deprived, on drugs or dehydrated..(least I don't think I was dehydrated. I drink plenty of water/juices each day along with my meals).

That was my very first and so far last "OBE". Lately I haven't had many dizzy spells so that's good. In fact, since my last post, I've only had 2 while I was in the kitchen (they happened back to back...the same day...might as well say same minute), but I didn't get that weird feeling of not being in my body those 2 times. Just regular dizzy spells.

I went to my Doc Tuesday. For the most part, he did take some blood just to make sure....so I'll see what happens. It could be something I'm missing from my diet.

I had this happen once while I was driving my car. I was sight seeing in Hawaii, and very happy and relaxed. I was coming down a steep cliff road when suddenly it felt like gravity had turned me loose and I experienced floating. It lasted only 5-10 seconds, but I was totally aware of it for each of those seconds. It was awesome! Now I would like to experience it again...That was 5 months ago.

wild and astral projection are very much similar in my opinon, in wild you have to remain conscious untill you start witnessing dream imagery, hypnogogina or something liek that, in obe... you have to remain conscious until you feel a vibration go through your entire being, and you have to mintain these vibrations untill you leave your body

Anyone else care to share their experience(s) if this has happened to them?

I'll bite.
I was walking with my mom to her car, I don't remember slipping out, but I noticed my vision was mildly blurry, saw what I thought was my one of my sister's walking in front of me, mom asked how many were coming to lunch or something, I said there's five of us, duh! Puzzled, my younger sister said there's only four of us, I was like wha? then who's that in front of me, when I focused my attention on that person, I realized it was me, I was just looking at myself from behind, and instantly slammed back into my body.

wild and astral projection are very much similar in my opinon

I concur with your opinion, maybe it's my particular technique/inclination, but I've noticed that it's easy to slip into an OBE when trying to go lucid during a wild.>.<

In case this observation helps....While awake you don't directly know where your body is, you infer it from sensate information and build a mental simulation of it being in a particular place. If some aspects of that tactile/visual mental representation get out of sync with other aspects, you have an out of body experience. So there can be any number of causes, and some people can do it intentionally.

I can easily project my experience of where my thoughts are to slightly outside of my skull, but I've only had out of body experiences while in a lucid, partially sleep state.

When I was 14 I was in my room getting ready to get dressed. When all of a sudden I saw myself backing up on the floor until i hit the wall, as if someone was after me. I was like a camcorder filming an event unfold. I was watching myself and I looked really afraid. Once I hit the wall I was back in my body trying to figure out what just happened. This has bothered me for years. I am so glad I'm not alone.

Every OBE I do is from wake state. I don't know how to do OBE from a dream.
Sure, I can rise concentration level in LD and surrounding starts to change slowly but... Do I leave my body for sure? No.

I tried to separate my hand while sitting by table, while I had my eyes open many times... I think, I can't do it because my concentration level is lower in comparison when I'm laying down on bed and relaxe whole body.

OBE(astral travel) is different from WILD.
WILD- I use imagination... I imagine detailed static picture or moving through simple tunnel composed of rings.
OBE- I use relaxation(coupled with concentration) till my physical body awareness lowers enough to feel second body. Then I usually start to send impulses as if for moving my hands a little from side to side(rocking them a little)... but at the same time I let my physical hands relaxed, unmoving. The second (astral) hand starts to move, more and more, till I separate it completelly. After that separation of whole body is as simple things as standing up from the bed.

i had a drunken moment responding to this last night so i'll try again. mostly what i wanted to say is that the person would appear to be asleep or at least in deep meditation while this is happening so it would be almost impossible to say that they are fully awake.

Originally Posted by OnceADreamer

I've been directed to the BD section of DV and to make a short story even shorter....has anyone had an Out of Body Experience while they were SURELY awake?

It happened to me once recently and hasn't happened again, yet. Hopefully it doesn't happen again but I'd like to know. I know for sure that I was awake (though I know that some ppl may not believe me, which is understandable) and I do have dizzy spells more often than I'd like so I chalked it up to a dizzy spell that gave me this feeling. I was walking and went to turn around and that's when it happened and when the brief moment was over, I felt normal again. But while I felt this feeling, it sort of freaked me out enough to ask.

Wait, can you recount this experience in more detail? Your OBE was a fleeting moment? Reading all of your other posts, you simply mention it was an OBE, but not what you experienced. Were you floating above your body for a moment? Were you in an entirely different place altogether? What exactly happened? To be honest with you, I do not think that what you claim to be an OBE can rightfully be considered one, at least not based off what you've stated. Then again, you have said nothing more than OBE and not what it was like, so there isn't much here to go off of. Please, if for the sake of nothing else than my interest, could you elaborate on what happened... a lot?

I once was lay on my bed doing a creative visualization, and I ended up being terrorized by some nasty in greece.
I wasn't asleep, for sure, and the point came, when i was walking down to a beach, where the control i had just vanished and the figures came out of nowhere, and attacked me. that wasn't part of the controlled visualization i was supposed to be following, and i remember being shocked and sat bolt upright on my bed. not sure if this counts as an OBE, but whatever it was i wasn't dreaming, nor was it planned. I recall feeling like i was sucked back into my body, as if i left it at one point.

That was definitely a dream. If you were in a sleep study and being monitored, they would have told you that you were sleeping and that your brain's activity indicated that you were most likely dreaming, I can almost guarantee that. I'e had plenty of dreams where I was sure I wasn't dreaming, and then I woke up. The thing is, your brain knows how to mimic feelings and even "induce" them so to speak. You could swear up and down you were not asleep and that you were n't dreaming, but if someone were there with you, watching, they would disagree.

Some people can OBE while wide awake. I think I probably could under the right circumstances, even though I was technically asleep during my experiences. There's even an electromagnetic gizmo that can induce OBE while awake. Atheists use it to pretend to prove that we have no souls.

My siblings are more visual than I am, for instance they see colors when they think of sounds. Each letter of the alphabet comes with its own color. I have almost no "mind's eye" at all while awake, but I can have audial hallucinations while awake under appropriate circumstances. It seems inevitable to me that some otherwise sane people have visual hallucinations while awake.

Come to think of it, I have had at least one visual hallucination while awake also. This doesn't seem extraordinary to me. The whole visual waking experience is largely imagined, even though it has mostly accurate sensory information involuntarily worked into it.

Originally Posted by snoop

That was definitely a dream. If you were in a sleep study and being monitored, they would have told you that you were sleeping and that your brain's activity indicated that you were most likely dreaming, I can almost guarantee that. I'e had plenty of dreams where I was sure I wasn't dreaming, and then I woke up. The thing is, your brain knows how to mimic feelings and even "induce" them so to speak. You could swear up and down you were not asleep and that you were n't dreaming, but if someone were there with you, watching, they would disagree.

but isn't REM sleep about 90 mins before dreamtime, there was no way i was that far into the visualization...
I was only at it for about 20 mins. i clockwatched afterwards, and it was daytime, not a WBTB. I would love to believe it was a dream, but i am not convinced, i had no signs of WILD, SP< or any vibrations or hypnogogia, nothing like i normally get.

I OBEd while sitting on a couch once. I was quite awake because I panicked and tried to get back to my body. The lights were on, I was involved in daily waking activities. An odd world we live in . . . .

Originally Posted by ThreeCat

I OBEd while sitting on a couch once. I was quite awake because I panicked and tried to get back to my body. The lights were on, I was involved in daily waking activities. An odd world we live in . . . .

It is an odd world we live in.

Well, I'm now convinced what i experienced wasn't an OBE, (having read more about it)just a waking guided meditation with a witchy-poo of an ending.

or, for short a WGMWPE