Thread: Astral Projection

how did you get out of your body

I pushed I pushed like hell once I'd gone Lucid. I don't think all of me ever left my body, I think that may be why I couldn't see myself, it was like looking at a mirror of yourself and mirrors never seem to work right in dreams. But honestly I'm a natural lucid dreamer and I've been trying projection for a couple years and a walk around the house is still all I can really do. I mean when I project I don't seem to have any of the perks of a lucid dream, I can only go somewhere by walking, and like I said tables, doors, and walls all stop me if I try to move past them.

Do you know about the difference in astral planes? I've found that not all books on the subject talk about them. Supposedly the "lower" planes are the closest ones to the physical world, which many people, like both you and I, end up on automatically. Supposedly, the higher planes are less like the physical world, and more filled with light/love/energy. If you have normal, earthy energy (that is you're a normal person with plenty of negative energy/bad jou-jou), you end up on the lower planes. If you're a spiritual guru, you end up on planes where there are supposedly angels and stuff flying around everywhere.

Anyway. I usually end up in a place pretty close to the physical world. Usually, I just teleport to a better place/plane. There are two ways I teleport: seals, and doors. Doors are a lot easier; you just decide where you wanna go, create a door, open it and go through to that place. Seals are kinda hard because unless you're used to blipping in and out of existence you really won't be able to do it. But basically it's like the door thing, only I draw a circle on the ground. This is good for taking objects with me.

Okay, so you're having problems with the physical barriers, right? Do you have any windows in your room? I find that windows are a lot easier to start with. So go up to the windows. Put your hands against them. The most important thing is to stop believing that this is a barrier: the only thing keeping you in that room is your own mind. Most likely, you have trouble flying because you believe that gravity affects you. But gravity only affects you when you want it to. So back to the windows. Your hands are no longer physical. Not solid. If anything, they're little teeny spirit molecules that happen to be near each other. They're not connected at all. And the window is the same way. Visualize the molecules in the window pane separating themselves from each other, and the molecules in your hands doing the same. They're now mixed in with each other. Now, give your hands a gentle push. They should go through. Once your hands are through, the rest of your body should follow pretty easily. Hope that helps!

By the way, there are some astral constructs you won't be able to go through. Just remember, everything in the universe is made up of energy; what you see is merely the reflection of your mind's interpretation of that expression of energy. So an energy barrier looks like a wall; a portal can look like a door, et cetera. Just keep practicing and experimenting.

On seeing yourself in the third person...I think that's pretty common. Basically, it comes from the fact that astral projection happens when you are in a highly dissociated state. So you dissociate from your physical body in order to make it easier to leave your body. However, it wounds like what you're doing is treating your astral body like a physical body. So it's kind of weird; what you have is pretty much a lizard's tail of your actual spiritual body standing in front of you, representing you. Maybe there's a way you can walk INTO your body? Are you in the third person above yourself? Watching like a movie? Depending on how you've dissociated yourself, you're going to have to figure out a way to place your consciousness IN the experience itself. It'll probably require some visualization and it might be frustrating for a while, but I think it will solve a lot of your problems.

I always get a very strong feeling when I'm unable to move past something that someone is actually trying to hold me back, but anytime someone passes through a door I can go with them, if they go outside I can go wherever I want. I can't do any of the really neat things from my lucid dreams, but I can cross large distances quickly with no feeling of effort. The people I see and follow are very real. I can sometimes listen to people, but I feel that is an intrusion upon them.

I have verified on at least one account, my mother seeming to see the part of me that couldn't have been there because I was in bed, and I remember her asking me what I wanted and being very shocked that she could see me. That jolted me awake but when I went downstairs to see if it was real she was getting up to look for me.

With regards to the difference between LDs and AP, I've had similar experiences. AP is definitely different, and I've been able to verify leaving my body by witnessing events occurring miles away in details down to the people's thoughts at the time I was projecting with absolutely no prior knowledge of them. So I'm a big believer in AP.

Hmm. So it feels like you're being physically held back, unless someone goes out and you tag along? That's pretty strange. Have you ever tried talking to these people? I mean, they are in your home. Or if you feel someone holding you back, say "Is someone holding me back? Why?"

Like I posted elsewhere, I don't trust spirits (especially random ones, you might as well be trusting any stranger off the street), so I'd be careful...but for one thing, I wouldn't worry about feeling that you're listening in on their conversations. Most spirits with considerable intelligence will be able to keep you from hearing their thoughts if they want to. Also, be wary to not "broadcast" your own thoughts unless you actually want to be heard.

You misunderstand, these are real people not spirits. I can see hear and smell them, they also are completely unaware of me, with the exception of my mom, she's seen me a few times. But if I can follow someone out the door, I regain my ability to move freely from place to place, as long as it's "public" I can step out of the door and decide to be in downtown Chicago 7 hours away I can do it. it's just that no matter where I go homes are off limits unless I follow a "real" person. It's almost like my mind knows it's got a body but doesn't try to use it. I've noticed my feet never move I just glide or pop up where I wanted to be. And I can re-enter my own home but once in I can't explore closed rooms or anything so I usually "go back" is the best way I can say it to my body.

I've been told that in astral projection when done your body and mind will automatically join, when I'm done I have go back to my body by choice. This usually wakes me up, but I've never had waking up cause mind to snap back. It doesn't make sense but I've woken up and feel like that part of me is still on the way back for a few seconds

which technique do you use?

In my dream body I roll over on my stomach and push myself out. I don't know about some of you guys but lucid dreaming and AP are naturals for me I've been doing it long before I knew it's name. Sometimes I'll be lucid and suddenly realize my mind is trying to project and I can almost step out of my dream body. I've never been able to project while awake, I've heard of people doing it that way, but I have to be asleep. I can go to sleep knowing what I need/want to do and can get it done or like I said it will just happen. The best I can describe leaving my dream body is pulling off weat cloths only there is no warm or cold just the clingy feeling of it peeling away.

I should admit that all I know about LD and AP is from personal experience. My mom taught me to lucid dream, when I was about 5, but she called it active dreaming, but I've honed my skills and abilities over the past 17 years. I don't think it's magic, and I don't think it's spiritual, I just know it is a human ability that I'm learning to use. It's like riding a bike, you wouldn't want to read a book on how to do it if you could learn on your own

Also about astral projection, I think it is likely a latent ability. I believe children are very adept at it but lose it or forget it as the become masters of their real bodies. My first accidental projections started between 18 months to 3 years after I was born. My mom swears she used to see me up and running in the house and being between what she thought was me and my bed, when she looked in my bed I was asleep. I don't know if those were just her imaginings or if it was really me projecting and playing in the house while I was asleep.

Originally Posted by Digital.Totem

It's like riding a bike, you wouldn't want to read a book on how to do it if you could learn on your own

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Originally Posted by Naiya

Do you know about the difference in astral planes? I've found that not all books on the subject talk about them. Supposedly the "lower" planes are the closest ones to the physical world, which many people, like both you and I, end up on automatically. Supposedly, the higher planes are less like the physical world, and more filled with light/love/energy. If you have normal, earthy energy (that is you're a normal person with plenty of negative energy/bad jou-jou), you end up on the lower planes. If you're a spiritual guru, you end up on planes where there are supposedly angels and stuff flying around everywhere.

Anyway. I usually end up in a place pretty close to the physical world. Usually, I just teleport to a better place/plane. There are two ways I teleport: seals, and doors. Doors are a lot easier; you just decide where you wanna go, create a door, open it and go through to that place. Seals are kinda hard because unless you're used to blipping in and out of existence you really won't be able to do it. But basically it's like the door thing, only I draw a circle on the ground. This is good for taking objects with me.

Okay, so you're having problems with the physical barriers, right? Do you have any windows in your room? I find that windows are a lot easier to start with. So go up to the windows. Put your hands against them. The most important thing is to stop believing that this is a barrier: the only thing keeping you in that room is your own mind. Most likely, you have trouble flying because you believe that gravity affects you. But gravity only affects you when you want it to. So back to the windows. Your hands are no longer physical. Not solid. If anything, they're little teeny spirit molecules that happen to be near each other. They're not connected at all. And the window is the same way. Visualize the molecules in the window pane separating themselves from each other, and the molecules in your hands doing the same. They're now mixed in with each other. Now, give your hands a gentle push. They should go through. Once your hands are through, the rest of your body should follow pretty easily. Hope that helps!

By the way, there are some astral constructs you won't be able to go through. Just remember, everything in the universe is made up of energy; what you see is merely the reflection of your mind's interpretation of that expression of energy. So an energy barrier looks like a wall; a portal can look like a door, et cetera. Just keep practicing and experimenting.

On seeing yourself in the third person...I think that's pretty common. Basically, it comes from the fact that astral projection happens when you are in a highly dissociated state. So you dissociate from your physical body in order to make it easier to leave your body. However, it wounds like what you're doing is treating your astral body like a physical body. So it's kind of weird; what you have is pretty much a lizard's tail of your actual spiritual body standing in front of you, representing you. Maybe there's a way you can walk INTO your body? Are you in the third person above yourself? Watching like a movie? Depending on how you've dissociated yourself, you're going to have to figure out a way to place your consciousness IN the experience itself. It'll probably require some visualization and it might be frustrating for a while, but I think it will solve a lot of your problems.

wow this is incredible! i kant believe there are ppl that doubt this so much. how could you guys have such incredible detail and experiances if this is fake?? also totem, thats awesome that youve been doing it since you were a child. i do agree with that theory though, its like the whole language thing, it is much easier for children to learn a new language than when they are adults. there are many things that are just like this. but this is great. i really want to know more about astral planes and projection.

Originally Posted by spitfire riggz

i really want to know more about astral planes and projection.

http://www.astralvoyage.com/
heres a website with a lot of information on astral projection. it really helped me start APing

thank you very, very much man!