Thread: AP CD Test

Are people who already easily AP candidates or no. I mean we would know if it was working, because some people have a difficult time telling between a good lucid dream and an AP.

I would be interested in this.

So far I had one AP and it was kind of unintentional.

Actually, i would like people who have AP regularly to help me out. If you can AP whenever you want, you know how long it usually takes you and what technique you must use. If you use a CD, its supposed to happen without any energy work or breathing work or anything.

Also, you would have to know the dangers of using a CD, it could mess you up, but if that doesnt bother you and you can induce AP regularly, then i would love to have you aboard.

I understand most of the issues with sleep hypnosis, which is what this CD sounds like. So I'm up for it, I have been found resistant to hypnosis by a psychiatrist so it may not work for me, but I'm willing to help you out with this.

As to the risks of AP, they are there for sure, but nothing is very fun if it's totally safe. I've spent most of my time projecting into our plane, but have attained others from time to time. I chose primarily to project into our world more or less to check up on people I care about.

Yeah, i agree. The normal plane is reletavily safe for me, so its ok.

Anyway, i will send you a link to a download of the file. I bought it, and i have the download page bookmarked.

Thanks DT, this will help out alot.

As for me, the CD does relax me alot. It sounds like waves crashing into the beach, and that does it for me. As for AP, i still have to work with NEW, but it does cut down the time i need to project.

I ran the file through an audio analysis script, and I can safely say to other people that would like to try this, that the sounds you hear are totally safe, with the exception of a range of ULF (ultra low frequency) which if played loud enough is know as brown noise and can and will make you release your bowels. But unless you crank it up to 10 and sit on the speaker you'll be ok.

You are right about it being relaxing, I'm letting it loop right now listening to the rythems I've counted maybe 6 repeating rythems. I'm probably one of the better people to try this, I have a good education in engineering and biology and far above average hearing.

Just remember don't sit on the speaker with it dialed up to 10, that would be bad

IMO, you usually can't generalize things about AP because everyone has their way of doing it. That being said, here's my opinion anyway!

Personally, I AP on my own fairly often, but a year or so ago I found one of those guided CDs so I thought it might be fun to try.

I did not find it anything but distracting and annoying. For one thing, you're in a very suggestible state so you don't want someone's voice telling you "oh here's your spirit guide, say hi," because it basically creates a false astral experience that is nothing more than the induction of false memories during a trance state.

Of course the science field will say ALL AP is no more real than a dream or a WILD, but even if you take that as fact, your own experience is much more true to your own mind than a guided voice's idea of what your experience should be.

I wasn't able to get out or do anything using the guided CD. It was all very forced and it doesn't allow me to go at my own pace which I think is very important.

IMO, I think those CDs pose no danger whatsoever because in my experience, they're so forced and distracting that you'll never actually leave your body while listening to them.

When you AP, you usually completely dissociate yourself from your physical body. Listening to music--that is actively listening; passively listening to ambient music is actually helpful--keeps you here and keeps your conscious focused on your physical senses, which is not what you want to be doing.

However, I don't think they're a total waste of money if you're a beginner, because they can sort of give you an idea of what you should be doing and in what order to astral project. But IMO, it would be better to listen to the CD a few times and then try to AP using the instructions but without the actual CD running.

Well in one day, I've not had any luck. Listening to it on a loop just turns it into background noise like a fan or an idleing car. It's relaxing but so is a white noise machine. Pink noise is close to this audio track, but I don't like pink noise the sound of breathing and heartbeats distract me. I'll keep giving it a try as I go to bed for a few days, but my hopes are currently not high.

Totem, does yours have a person's voice guiding you through it, or is it just like one of those Theta wave inducing things where's it's just a constant "CCCSSSSSH" noise? 'Cause I was talking about the former, mostly.

The sound is not a voice, but rather its just a buzzing sound that loops around and around.

I found that if you use head phones that take away all other sound in the room, then it makes you get to the "numb" feeling stage before you SP.

Im still having problems focusing on the sounds and not making it background noise, and eventually falling asleep. Im hoping that someone else can post a supposed music file, to try and compare with it to this one.

Ahh, okay, yeah that's totally different than what I was talking about, lol. I've used something similar to what you have and gotten pretty similar results yeah. I usually just feel very relaxed and stuff. It feels more or less the same as doing a normal meditation for me. But I usually have some kind of white noise for meditation (I have a CD of those singing bowls which is awesome).

The one I talked about before is this guided meditation/AP. So it's this woman's voice going "Now relax as I count back from ten...now leave your body by doing this and that...now vizualize a beautiful garden blah blah blah....now ask for your spirit guide...now your spirit guide appears. Talk to them and ask them questions."

So I just felt like it was impossible to really be astral projecting while listening to that. It just felt so fake and forced. I gave it a good try and it was nothing more than a daydream.

Yeah, lol. I have Robert Bruces guided AP CD, and it is the same way. But, his CD has enhanced sound waves, atleast thats what i got from reading the book. I have just recently got into his books, and i dont know much about them.

Everyone seems to be trying to hard, effort and exertion can impede both LDs and AP, as for books and CD I don't really have much use for them. It all feels very natural to me so I'm not going to try and change things by doing what someone else suggests. It doesn't hurt that my family has a long history of this "type" of thing as my dad says, he thinks me and mom are crazy. But, there are people far back my mothers family tree that claimed to be clairvoiants and healers, and you can ask almost any of them if they've ever seen a spirit, or a ghost, and they'll say yes. Some of it is very piculiar though, I myself saw my grandmothers twin brothers standing in my kitchen one day, the problem is they were stillborn and these boys were about 15-20, but I knew it was them somehow.

Yeah, i think thats what im doing. Im just trying too hard, and so i dont succeed. Atleast with the sound files. I can AP without it, but its still fun to find short cuts.

I didn't read this whole thread.

C911 I see you're still not quite "up to speed" yet on things to do with AP, to put it lightly.

It's generally a bad idea to AP without doing energy work. First of all, most of the time it won't work, and on the off chance that it does, you can easily distort how energy flows through your body. How do I know this? Happens to people all the time. Including me quite some time ago, and I still aint fixed it yet.

I was under the impression that you were using a guided AP cd, which don't really work unless you're very suggestible, but at least they are fairly harmless. You're using binaural beats?! Bad idea.

Just thought I'd throw in my two cents.

Originally Posted by Rainman

I didn't read this whole thread.

C911 I see you're still not quite "up to speed" yet on things to do with AP, to put it lightly.

It's generally a bad idea to AP without doing energy work. First of all, most of the time it won't work, and on the off chance that it does, you can easily distort how energy flows through your body. How do I know this? Happens to people all the time. Including me quite some time ago, and I still aint fixed it yet.

I was under the impression that you were using a guided AP cd, which don't really work unless you're very suggestible, but at least they are fairly harmless. You're using binaural beats?! Bad idea.

Just thought I'd throw in my two cents.

Yeah, just a binaural beat. I know its not the best of idea, but i want to know what they would do, and tell everyone the ones that do work, and the ones that cause alot of damage to someone.

My new theory though, is im going to just listen to it for 20 minutes, while i work on the pc or something tonight. And then, ill shut it off, and go into normal NEW, and then see if it helps or not.

Good luck and post results ASAP afterwards!

This audio file (not technically only an audio file, because it has a visualization video imprint in it that has nothing to do with any players you put it in) is about as good as a white noise machine for relaxing, and relaxing is all it will do. If you want to know about some scary mind altering media, look into strobe therapy. Yeah they flash lights in your eyes basically until you have an epileptic fit.

Yep, ive concluded the same thing with this file. I will go on the look out now, and find a new one. If its nothing like the last one, i will send it to you DT.

EDIT: Found one, havent opened it yet, but its free, so why not try it eh? Ill pm you the link, DT. If anyone else is interested, please just ask.

The new file with the man telling you what to do is only usefull if you listen to it then turn it off and atempt what was said. Words will draw you back to the real world very quickly when trying to release. I also didn't like his voice, mens voices have too much base in them for my liking. I have very sensitive hearing and I prefer a womans voice simply because in general they contain less base. I personally have a very deep voice, and I've been told by many people that it's relaxing, but to me it wouldn't be.

Originally Posted by Digital.Totem

The new file with the man telling you what to do is only usefull if you listen to it then turn it off and atempt what was said. Words will draw you back to the real world very quickly when trying to release. I also didn't like his voice, mens voices have too much base in them for my liking. I have very sensitive hearing and I prefer a womans voice simply because in general they contain less base. I personally have a very deep voice, and I've been told by many people that it's relaxing, but to me it wouldn't be.

Actually, i had a different effect. Although i didnt get into an AP alone with just the CD, it did have many side effects. It got me relaxed, my body was buzzing, and when i opened my eyes after the 20 minutes of relaxing everything was blotchy just like after an OBE. I think this would work, if you know how to input energy work into the Theta stage of the track. I would recomend this one, but now i will go and find a new one to test out.

Originally Posted by Rainman

It's generally a bad idea to AP without doing energy work. First of all, most of the time it won't work, and on the off chance that it does, you can easily distort how energy flows through your body. How do I know this? Happens to people all the time. Including me quite some time ago, and I still aint fixed it yet.

I have to chime in to agree on the energywork thing. Much like you, I did AP because I thought it was some kind of lucid dream (I knew what LDs were but never heard of AP) so I did get pretty messed up from it in a number of ways. Had I actually known about AP before all of that and practiced energywork it would have been a lot easier.

What helped me was doing Tai chi for a year--Qi Gong, specifically. I'm not completely better but it sure helped a lot of the so-called "nerve damage" that even medical doctors were stumped over (IMHO, the damage was done from my early AP experiences).

Well after a few audios, ive concluded on what can and will shoot you into an AP. Of course it wont work for everyone, but myself and 4 other people have reported the workings of one audio.

The website is: http://www.brainwave-entrainment.com...-downloads.htm

You can see the download file as the second option, which states astral travel or something to that effect.

But, just listening to the audio did not produce results of astral projection. However, it did shoot you into a very vivid HI field, and caused you to be very relaxed. Also, after listening you can open your eyes and experience that everything is very fuzzy, just kind of a fun little tid bit.

But, we luckily and randomly found that if you listen until it gets done talking about a "ball that you have to hold and throw", and then shut it off, interesting things happen. If you want to, you can listen to it twice for better and faster results, but you also will fall asleep if your not careful. But anyway, once you listen to those tracks and shut it off, you turn to your side. (you should be laying on your back when you try to project with this cd anyway). Then, make sure that you can drool out the side of your mouth. It sounds sick, but swallowing will start you back over at square 1. Anyway, just lie still and imagine a falling sensation. The best way to think of this is to imagine your self either climbing a ladder and letting go every breath you let out, or imagine yourself falling off a cliff every time you breath out. This is basic energy work, (to my knowledge), and it will lead you into SP. Once in SP, just do a basic roll out and you are out into a OBE. Or close your eyes and push yourself out, or any other exit techniques. Yes, if you want to turn it into a wild then you can always let yourself sleep with a dream playing in your head that you are controlling, and it will happen.

Its only 9.99$, but it is very worth it.

Originally Posted by Naiya

IMO, I think those CDs pose no danger whatsoever because in my experience, they're so forced and distracting that you'll never actually leave your body while listening to them.

Maybe not for you, you can already do AP. Possibly the danger comes from not being prepared for the experience. Like trying to run a marathon without ever having practiced running. Not that I know anything about AP or anything...