Thread: Karen659 - OOB experiences

3/13/09

There has been much turmoil in my life over the past few weeks and as usual, my ability to remember my travels OOB diminishes. I know I am still having my usual frequent exits, however, no matter how I try, the conscious recall of the event fades very quickly when fully awake.

What is interesting is that I can recall trying to remember details while being out with my usual technique of word associations, but every time, once fully awake and back in the ‘real world’, there is no memory left except knowing I was out.

This last experience I am sharing here mainly because I feel it was unusual in my ability to ‘physically’ feel not only texture, but also emotions! Up to this time, I have learned quite well to ‘control’ my emotional responses to anything I encountered, knowing that any extreme emotional response (other than love/happiness) will end my travels. This time, there were physical sensations and emotions that caused even more loss of control and lack of accomplishment within the experience.

There were multiple exits this night, but unfortunately there are few details except for the following. The first time I became aware of my readiness to separate, I easily rolled out, but found myself standing in darkness, barely able to move! I remember calling out for a friend (NJ), in an attempt to move. But for some reason I was immediately back in body, but quickly feeling the readiness to separate sensation.

I rolled out for the second time, and with my “to the door!” affirmation, I started moving but with extreme difficulty! I felt so heavy and so sluggish; I just wanted to get to the door as quickly as possible. I recall seeing my dog Buddy watching me, so I called for him to come with me. I felt concerned and upset for some reason.

It was still dark and I couldn’t see well, so I made a beeline for the front door feeling every texture change as I passed through the different pieces of furniture in my hurry to get outside. (I realize now that with my regular OBEs, I would normally take the usual ‘path’ around the furniture as I do in physical, but this time I was so intent on getting outside, I just moved straight to the door through the furniture!)

Again, I could sharply feel the texture change as I passed through the front door, and I remember standing in my front yard, now feeling the ‘tingle’ of raindrops falling! I recall I was surprised to discover that it was raining!

Suddenly, I found myself back in body, for the third time with the signal to separate. Again, I moved to the front door and outside, still very heavy and barely able to see. This time, I remember feeling the rain drops ‘tingle’ once again, and decided I would try to fly. Again no success with my usual quick take off, so this time I thought maybe I could at least ‘lift and drift’, moving slowly. Thankfully, I was pleased to discover I was lifting gently, but once again, I didn’t get far before finding myself back into body.

I also remember that a few times being out with these first experiences of the night, that I tried desperately to ‘see’ more clearly (as I did not remember to us my ‘Clarity now!’ affirmation.) Instead I remember trying to ‘physically’ open my eyes and I recall that it felt as though I WAS opening them for real! But with the realization that I was seeing ‘too much light’ AND feeling them physically opening, I quickly closed them and continued with the experience.

The last outing of the night began with another ‘false awakening’ that I was at least aware of enough to let it continue. I could hear my stepson and a few of his friends come into the living room directly to the couch where I was sleeping! One sat in the chair next to me, and the others were talking and milling around, paying no attention to me sleeping next to them!

I remember I tried to make a few movements and small noises to let them know I was there (as I am never sure when a false awakening occurs - but felt fairly sure this one was!) One friend even tried to pull the covers off of me, and remember having to grab them back to let them know I was there!
The group moves into the kitchen, and I am rather upset to think the friends were invited over without my knowledge. I realize by now this is definitely a false awakening, and I’m curious so I take this time to easily roll out of body to follow them!

I watched them for a time, while standing outside the kitchen, but then decided I wanted to make contact so I moved into the kitchen and around the lunch counter. I am now trying to make noise to get their attention, and I know I am talking but they are not hearing me!

I recall hearing my ‘voice’, having it sound like a dull “ wah,wah,wah”, and coming out unintelligible. I realize I am not getting anywhere, I am feeling very frustrated, upset, and unable to think properly. Knowing these are emotions I have to control, I try to send ‘love’, but the best I can muster is ‘gratitude’. (I really don’t know what this means, but that’s what I recorded, so that’s what I’m writing!)

I move back to the dining room area, with the realization I was going to lose the experience, and now feeling quite physically ill and nauseous! Trying to prolong the OOB experience, I tried the little spin and affirmation “to my higher self!” but this spinning only made me more nauseous!!! I have never ever experienced such physical sensations while being OOB before!

I am not sure what is happening with me, so I decide to end the experience intentionally, something else I have never done before! I think directly of my physical body (which was easy since I was feeling such intense physical emotions!) and was able to return quickly.

I know this isn’t much of an experience to share, as I felt was not fully functioning and my emotions seemed to be out of control. However, there were some differences I ‘felt’ from my usual exits, so I thought I’d write this one.

I will share with everyone, however, what I did discover soon after that night’s experiences. That same time that I was OOB, my friend NJ was experiencing some intense emotional upset that I feel I may have somehow picked up on!

There is no way to firmly validate this connection, however, the time and sensations seem to ‘fit’ and since my intention that night was to visit with him, perhaps I shared this turmoil and became more ‘emotional’ and therefore less functioning.

Hi everyone! Things here in 'real life' have been quite busy with some very stressful situations and health concerns over the past few weeks. Experiences have continued, but not to the degree that there is much information that I feel others can learn from.

However, this experience has a few 'new' aspects, so I'm sharing that latest. I welcome any insights, comments, or thoughts!

Thanks,
Karen
http://karen659.blogspot.com/

3/18/09

This experience offered once again more new experiences for me. In retrospect, I feel I have had so much to do and take care of in the past few weeks with my ‘physical life’ that my astral body is trying to compensate by giving me what I need to balance.

Just prior to sleep with this experience, and knowing that I have not had the chance to help others while OOB in a long time, I do recall a brief ‘thought’ that impressed upon mind that this time I just might get my wish. However the difference was, this time they came to me!

I went to my ‘traveling’ couch at 3am per my usual routine. As I’m lying there, I get the typical altered sensations (floating, soft buzzing) that indicates I’m about ready to separate. Instead of just rolling out as usual, I find my legs floating vertical in the air! Now this is common for me as a signal to roll, however, I couldn’t move! I question whether perhaps I really DO have my legs this high, but also realize it just isn’t possible.

While lying there, feeling my legs floating and not able to roll out, I have a sense of someone coming from the kitchen area. I feel slight apprehension, as I see a very strong male (energy) shadow moving toward me, talking animatedly and emphatically, as he towered over my body lying on the couch!

My initial reflexive reaction was to put my hand up to him and said “Stop!”, however upon doing so, immediately knew I should not do that and then said, “I send you love”! He stopped, calmed a bit, and with this success, I also visualized sending loving energy to him, which improved his overall ‘sense’ quite a bit. He was able to talk more coherently to me now, and at the time, I knew what we were discussing but there is no memory now. I only have the impression he was explaining something, and just needed to talk.

He faded out and now I felt the presence of another smaller female, hunched over, next to the couch in the same spot he faded from. It was a much older woman, quiet and non-threatening, and I asked, “what can I help you with?” She mumbled something softly, and the conversation is again not recalled, however I do remember sending her love as well.

She faded after a short time and once again, a very animated, almost agitated, middle-aged female appeared in her place. She was talking loudly and waving her arms about. I recall only scraps of information about our conversation, something about products, and TV, and things she needs or was interested in. Because I had already started sending love with the other two, and with her strong energy appearance, it was easy to calm her down and just talk to her without any concerns or fear.

At some point, she faded, and I became aware of my moving feet. This time I realized I could now roll out! I stood up next to the couch, amazed at the ‘strength’ of solidness I felt! However, I couldn’t move! Once again, I try ‘to the door!’ and when that didn’t work, ‘to the outside!’

Now realizing I could see (usually I’m in darkness initially), my orientation was a bit confused. Although I felt as though I was facing my dining room, it appeared to me that my living room bay window was in front of me! Without questioning my orientation ‘status’ (as it was much more important that I get out, not caring which direction!) I just affirmed, ‘to the outside!’ while looking at the window.

VERY slowly, I begin to move, so I say ‘to the window’, ‘to the outside’ – ANYthing to move! I’m drifting slowly, very slowly….and it feels as though I am not ‘in control’ of this one. So, I just ‘let go’ and remember it doesn’t’ matter where I go out, as long as I get out! Lol

I start to move up to the ceiling, and think, ‘oh this is great!’ as I’ll get to experience the texture changes as I pass through so slowly. Indeed I do, first the ceiling, then the attic area, through the roof and then to the outside – each feeling so different in texture and sensation.

I am moving SOoooo slowly, finally breaking through to the outside, seeing clouds and birds, and even something that I’m not sure what is was while flying (this is what I recorded – very limited memories here).

I am enjoying the drifting and floating, getting so comfortable and relaxed. I even recall knowing I could take part of the cloud to use as a pillow! I was so content and at peace, not really going anywhere, but just enjoying the open expansiveness and peaceful feelings. The sense of freedom and comfort was immense.

When I came back to couch, there was another ‘first’ I can remember doing. I had to actually “turn around” to get into the right position as I’m getting back in body. I somehow knew I had to re-enter differently, but I really don’t know how I knew!

I am aware I have so much to record and am now trying to bring myself awake slowly while trying to find recorder. It’s hard to describe, but I knew I wasn’t awake enough to get it working so I hung onto the memories as much as I could while trying to wake even further. However once I was fully awake to record, I still lost so many memories.

I am find this happening more and more often, with deep memories holding while slowly waking, using attempts to bring them to the surface with signal words, but losing the ‘idea’ behind them as soon as I am fully awake.

As for the shadowing figures, all needed to do was calm them down and become comfortable with their animated and ‘wild’ energy (that initially scared me slightly). By remembering to send loving thoughts and energy as they spoke to me allowed me to show my understanding of the loving communication process that is difficult to control many times when faced with fear while OOB.

Getting fully out after meeting these individuals was also different in that despite my lack of usual quick determined movements, it was still an enjoyable experience, as the slowness allowed me to fully experience each part of the process. When finally outdoors, the expansiveness and happiness I felt ‘just doing nothing’ I believe was a much needed respite from the extremely stressful and overactive life that I have encountered these past few weeks.

Hi everyone! Although this is another less-than-spectacular experience, I thought it gives some ideas as to how I have learned to respond to the different signals and clues that I get during an OBE.

I am just happy to get out again, and am glad to feel it appears that I am making some progress. Hope someone gets something from it! ;-D

-Karen

4/01/09 Gaining Confidence

My first recollection of this experience is the music and loud noise coming from the living room where I was sleeping. I felt I was fully awake and should go investigate where this music was coming from. Realizing that the room appeared just a bit different than it really does, I gives me the ‘awareness’ that I am in another ‘false awakening’ and use this to roll out of body. I affirm, ‘to the door!’ and move slowly, feeling a VERY strong pulling sensation back to body.

Realizing I am not going to make it to the door, I change direction to the hallway near my daughter’s bedroom. Now I hear excited barking! Without hesitating, I call for the dogs to come, and immediately see two smaller dogs appear in the hall. The smaller one is light brown, longer hair, and has a familiar sense that I attributed to my younger childhood days, as he excitedly jumps up on me. The other dog is slightly bigger, black/brown, shorthair and a little more reserve, but friendly. He comes up to me and nuzzles me contentedly, as if to say hello.

Looking up, I see in the doorway a large black/brindle dog that hesitates before entering. I feel a slight apprehension, but then realize it is more of a timid feeling coming from this big dog, and coax him to join the other two at my side.

I hug him and rub his short hair, noticing that his right eye is missing and his coat is matted. Sitting in the hallway playing with these dogs, I sense a presence standing in the doorway to my daughter’s room. It is an older, stocky, tall white male with short grey hair and small ‘blotches’ scattered throughout his face. He is non-threatening, but distant (timid?), and I realize he is there to talk to me.

His question is recorded as, “How’s your ‘sex appeal’ (but the word felt like confidence) for working with us? Can you help us (those of us) in this ‘population’? (Other than the specific words ‘sex appeal’, ‘help’, and ‘population’, the question was more of a feeling than specific words.) I understood what he was saying, and gave my consent to help in any way I could, knowing he meant the ‘population’ was those in spirit, both human and animal.

He and the dogs now fade away, and I try to locate my recorder to record what I can. I find it in pieces, and I’m attempting to put it back together. Realizing this is usually the signal for a ‘false awakening’, and instead of pulling myself more awake, I now use this signal to try to roll out again (even though I know I may not remember many details if I continued to another experience!)

I am successful in finding myself standing back in the living room where I was sleeping, and the room again looked slightly different (which gave me the validation I WAS still OOB). I approached the front door to go outside, and took the time to try to see if my hand could go through as usual. I was astonished to feel that it was solid! I pushed against it two more times, knowing I was out of body, but just amazed that I couldn’t pass through it!

I gave up and just opened the door the regular way, feeling the cool breeze of the morning air as the door opened. I kept saying, “This is not right, I know I’m out!”, so continued on, just ‘going along’ with what was happening.

Once outside, I tried flying a little, floating slightly upwards enjoying the freedom of being out but with a knowing that I was still ‘grounded’ and not able to go far. With that thought, I found myself flat on the ground, seeing and smelling the green grass under a tree in the front yard.

From my spot in the front yard, I could see my father’s truck come into the driveway, pulling a wagon filled with stuff like he’s going to clean up around the yard. My daughter was now there, and she is coming toward me. I somehow ‘know’ I am lying here (in my nightgown!) aware she is coming for the jeans that she left nearby, but unaware of my presence (I get the feeling I am ‘not in this picture’ at this time). This is quite confusing here, but I’m writing what I recorded!! lol

My husband, her stepfather, is also in the front yard now, and they are conversing quite civilly about things she just inherited that would be useful for the new people who are coming. I remember their conversation because it is registered as quite unusual to hear them to talk to each other in such a polite way.

Next I recall, I am now accompanying my daughter up to the house, yet this house (the one I just came out of!) has had the front door boarded up for a long time, and we are going to attempt to get in.

Just as we get inside the house, everything starts to fade and I realize I have to try to recall as much as I can. Again, I find the recorder in pieces; however, this time I pull myself to a more awake state and search for it again. I find it as I feel the heaviness of ‘full return’ and record what I could remember.

For some clarity here, I will say there are MANY changes going on in my life right now with regard to people in my life. I believe much of the ending of this experience probably an indication that this change will be for the better in all avenues of my physical life right now, and I am hoping the agreement to help with those in spirit indicates my increased confidence in moving forward with spiritual growth as well.

I only hope my ‘grounding’ of the experiences ends soon as I long to travel and experience that lightness and joy that usually accompanies those trips to the higher astral levels!

4/5/09 Ignored Signals in Near-Reality; 6/28/56

This OBE is again nothing like my usual experiences, and seems to have a degree of ‘near-reality’ in it that is just SO convincing that THIS time I pay no attention to the various signals (anomalies) that would indicate I am OOB! I really don’t know what is going on with my projections!

For this experience, I am in my usual spot on the couch and find that I am having a harder time to settle down than usual. I am very tired, yet cannot sleep. It seems that I just get to that right ‘mindstate’ and suddenly I hear my husband coming down the stairs to try to convince me to go back to bed!

Normally, this would signal a false awakening for me, as this has happened many times before, however, this time it ‘felt’ different. I was SO tired, and SO annoyed that he’d wake me, I just rolled off the couch and moved toward the stairs to go upstairs to bed. I feel SO heavy, like I’m drugged - having difficulty even opening my eyes as I move! I just can’t seem to pull them open! (In hindsight, it was the same ‘feeling’ I had when previously OOB and aware of it, in trying to get some vision within an experience)

I move slowly into the bedroom and I remember all I want to do is sleep because I feel SO heavy and tired! Yet, things start happening all at once! My husband brings me my cell phone, saying that the hospital is on the line. I take it as I am concerned there is another emergency that I may have to go in for. Then the house phone rings, and as I KNOW it’s only 3am (which it really was!), so I answer it again concerned it could be the hospital.

I am so disgusted to find out it’s a sales call!! Some voice wanting to sell me some sort of ‘announcement service’ to let me know when school is out! I can recall trying to push the phone buttons to get to a ‘real’ person, and when I do, I ask her why she calling me at 3am to tell me about this!! She does apologize and tells me she won’t bother me again.

Now my daughter (who doesn’t even live with me) shows up in the bedroom, carrying on about something that I can’t even make sense of! Her words are garbled, and she’s talking about something that needs to be straightened out. I feel SO TIRED I can’t even concentrate on her words, and she gets annoyed and goes back to her bedroom, laughing and talking with others who are there. I remember thinking, “What is she doing still up and visiting with her friends at 3am!!”

Before she left, though, I was ‘handed’ a rose…and the rose was being held in a man’s arm/hand! The fingers were tightly wrapped around the rose, and the arm just ended at the shoulder level. I’m thinking, “This is a real arm! It even has hair on it! Who would want to give someone a hairy arm holding a rose? Do they even realize it came off of a real person??” I place the arm and rose on my bedside table, and watch as the fingers move to encircle other ‘fingers’ that I have there!

(Now, you would think with all these ‘signals’ that I would have been able to realize I was out of body!!! Yet, I felt SO heavy, SO dense, and SO TIRED that I just assumed it all was real!)

I finally fell asleep in bed, wondering why so many things were happening to me in the middle of the night to try to keep me awake! I then found myself transitioning to full wakefulness - still on the couch with nothing going on at 4am!

I tried to return to sleep and became aware of being in full vibrations. I rolled out, and again, I see my husband next to me, trying to get my attention by talking to me about something.

I tell him I’m busy, and I need to do my work, and just then notice a man walking into the room from my left behind my husband. I felt I needed to talk to him, so excused myself and went after him. I asked, “Can I help you? Where are you going?” as he walked through the living room to the French doors by the hallway.

He is saying something about being a patient of mine ‘from the other night’ and told me his birthdate of 6/28/56. I remember asking him to repeat it as I was unsure of the year being ‘56 or ‘60. He again emphatically told me the date which I have recorded as 6/28/56. My feeling was that this date was being impressed upon me as something I needed to remember.

I asked him again where he was going, and he answered, “No where”. I was feeling frustrated and blank, not being able to think of what I should do next because I was rather overwhelmed to think this was a patient I had/would have!

The experience then faded rather quickly and I was left with the feeling that I may have asked the wrong questions or that it was just more important that I remembered that date. I don’t usually get such specific details when OOB, so I do try to take note when one is impressed upon me.

Once again, I am sharing this experience even though I did not take note of the signals to gain control of the experience. However, it was so different in its ‘feel’ that I don’t think I was capable of thinking clearly enough to become aware! The second part was so much ‘lighter’ in feel, just as many of other experiences are, but still rather unfulfilling unless I find out what that date could mean!

4.12.09 Meeting Aaron; Finally Flying Free Again

I am on my couch having set the intention to go ‘inward now’ should I be able to get OOB. My first awareness was that there were two other females with me as I was lying on the couch. I didn’t think too much of it as we were ‘waiting’ for something and passing the time making up fun things to do.

For fun, I remember I took a belt? (like a soft bathrobe belt) and formed it into a lasso and attempted to lasso the one female’s pocketbook/case she was carrying as she moved toward the front door, seeing how I had to throw the belt just the right way to properly connect with it.

Suddenly the front door blasts open and a figure rushes into the room and toward the couch where I am lying!! I am startled at first, but somehow realize I have to maintain emotional control and as usual, just ‘go with it’.

What I see/feel is a young man, short and round in stature, and obviously affected with Down’s syndrome. He runs to me with such happiness and joy, and starts kissing, kissing, kissing me all over my face! I say ‘what’s going on? Who are you?’ and he quietly replies “Aaron”.

I am still startled at his overwhelming gratitude and love, and ask again, “who?” and he repeats, “Its Aaron! I love you!, I love you!, I love you!” I ask ‘why are you doing this?’ and he says something about ‘ the last time…’ which gave me the knowing I was with him before and he was SO happy to see me again!

As he says again, “I just love you!” I realize I am OOB, so I sit up on the couch and he climbs in next to me, continuing to kiss and hug me! I feel such overwhelming joy and gratitude from him, and I do think, ‘Now what am I going to do with him?...what do I do now?”

Not getting any further information, I decide to move on and say to him, “I’m happy you’re so happy, Aaron, but I have to go!” knowing I was once again OOB in the lighter, freeing state of being (as compared to the more recent OBEs with the close to physical heaviness).

Without looking back (which is rather selfish of me, in hindsight!), I move away to the dining room area intending to get outside quickly. Once I was by the dining room window, I dove through the glass, feeling that tingly sensation as I passed through into the cool crisp outside air.

I realize it is wintertime! (Actually, it’s just becoming spring here now, so the snow and ice was a surprise to find!) Crisp white snow is covering the ground, with the trees and branches sealed in ice crystals and everything is SO beautiful! I’m flying toward the tree tops, a bit slower than usual, but still with such lightness and joy that I am so thrilled to be out again, saying “I missed this SO much!” over and over!

At that point there was a quick transitional pullback, and I knew I was returning. Intending to record what I could remember, I find the recorder, but when I attempt to speak, all I hear is a muted ‘blah, blah, blah’ and the recording doesn’t work! Again, I use this signal as another chance to get back OOB, but also knowing that I was taking the chance that I would not remember all the details!

This time I moved toward the front door and as I get closer to it, the usual ‘fear’ that I may not be really out comes over me and I turn to float through the door backward face up!! Once outside, I can feel the tingling sensations of ice or raining coming down and SO enjoying the flying freedom!!

I am just overwhelmed with a sensation of joy and bliss I want to shout, but instead I start singing the entire song, “Mine eyes have seen the glory…...His Truth is marching on!” (Battle Hymn of the Republic) with such feeling and emotion (a la Kate Smith! Lol) I am SO full of love and joy and am enjoying the beauty of the countryside below me.

I am over a wide open area, slightly depressed as in a lower elevation, and barely recall something about a tractor there? I am just singing and flying and being so captivated with it all!! At one point, I remember blasting through some thick barbed bushes, knowing I could go through anything if I wanted to!

Recall here is very limited, and I believe I just started fading back at some point. Once again, I’m thinking I’m recording, but again I can’t get the switch to work right and the light won’t come on. This time, knowing that I will definitely forget too much if I go back out, I force myself more awake to the point where I know I am getting my recorder for real.

Suddenly the memories start to fade SO quickly! I can remember so much in that semi-awake stage, but once fully awake and ready to really record, everything disappears so easily and I have to use the ‘walk backward’ through the events to try to remember even these details.

So, after having my share of lower level physical OBEs, I finally had the chance to reconnect to the beauty and love of being in a higher lighter state of projection. It is just SO wonderful to be there again! The joy remains with you even after you are awake!

I will have to start reading your posts when I get the chance! they are very lengthy and I could probably learn much! I think I stumbled upon your blog once and read the highlighted sections, that was a long time ago though.

One thing I found interesting is your differentiation between Ld's And Astral Projections (I read where you replied to that first comment). I think you might benefit from reading or just take a look at this book, its online, the link below. It talks extensively about the astral world, why it's there, how it functions, how it's related to the physical world etc. Very indepth!
anyways take a look, and good luck with your projections, keep sharing



http://www.scribd.com/doc/11877374/T...rthur-E-Powell

Originally Posted by wet_roof113

I will have to start reading your posts when I get the chance! they are very lengthy and I could probably learn much! I think I stumbled upon your blog once and read the highlighted sections, that was a long time ago though.

One thing I found interesting is your differentiation between Ld's And Astral Projections (I read where you replied to that first comment). I think you might benefit from reading or just take a look at this book, its online, the link below. It talks extensively about the astral world, why it's there, how it functions, how it's related to the physical world etc. Very indepth!
anyways take a look, and good luck with your projections, keep sharing

http://www.scribd.com/doc/11877374/T...rthur-E-Powell

Thank you SO much for this link and the wonderful compliment on my posts. Yes, my blog is lengthy, but it does give an overview of how I developed. In the later posts I try to add more 'insight' and comments that I feel describe what I am learning, so hopefully others can learn as well. THAT is my ultimate goal for posting my experiences....

I have done extensive reading by many authors, but have not read this book you suggested. I am familiar with the works of Besant and Leadbeater, and know of Blavatsky...however these authors are intense reading. This book looks to be a nice synopsis of their work! Awesome! Thank you again....

Let me know if you have any questions, comments, or even suggestions as to my blog...

Karen

Hi everyone! I finally have another OBE to share with you and its interesting how the fact that my other 'near-physical' OBE's were just a prelude to why I needed to learn how to use this state of awareness.

Insight and comments are always appreciated. Thanks for reading!

Karen

5.7.09 Holding Hand Retrieval

I moved to the couch and intended to get OOB, as it has been long stressful few weeks for me, and my physical life needs would always override my ability or strong intention to get OOB.

This time, however, as life is beginning to settle a bit (or I’m just dealing with it better! lol) I wanted to try once again. Soon after getting into the hypnagogic state, and possibly even falling asleep, I became aware of hearing voices.

It feels as though I’m listening to a radio station, with voices and conversations that do not have anything to do with me. This slight awareness allows me to focus a bit more on my ‘physical’ sensations, and I realize there is the vibrational tingling and my legs begin to float.

This is my usual signal that I’m ready to separate, but once again, it feels so ‘heavy’ I cannot do my usual rollout. I have to push myself upright to a sitting position, still feeling the tingling, so I know I’m separating.

I am unsteady at first, as it’s been a while since I’ve been out! I pull myself to move away from my body, and I’m not very ‘clear’ on my thinking and remember I have to affirm ‘to the door!’ and try to get my thoughts in the right ‘frame’ so I can move.

I affirm ‘to the door!’ a few times, knowing the direction of the front door, but end up having to ‘physically move’ my legs to walk in that direction. As I pass the living room chairs, I reach out and can physically FEEL the arms of the chair, and as I pass between them I know there is a coffee table that I am passing through!!

I can feel the texture change as I pass through the table, yet I can still reach out and ‘physically’ feel the edge of the coffee table! That was most unusual for me!!

As I got to the front door, I opened it as I would have if I was in physical. On the front porch, I could feel the change to ‘cool air’ and then realized I didn’t have to open that door that way! It is pitch black with no vision at all, only an ‘awareness’ of what is out there.

I am suddenly startled to hear the slamming of two car doors, and ‘sense’ two people getting out of car in my driveway. There is only one female talking, and I heard something like ‘What do you think, Alfred?” as if she was talking to the other one who got out of the car with her.

I wonder who is coming, but remained calm enough to ask, ‘Who’s there?’ as they approached. She answered me with her name, but I cannot recall what it was, and I know I asked her at least three times to repeat it because her speech was not clear. (I believe it was similar to Lisette, or Lisa, but I am not sure.)

She continue to talk, loudly and animatedly, and I remember thinking that I’m not understanding a lot of what she is saying and am asking her to repeat many times.

I then took a special note to listen intently at one point, and I clearly heard what is medically termed ‘flight of ideas’, as in her conversation/answer was not appropriate nor understandable in terms of what she was trying to convey. I felt immediately that this was an educated woman in her thirties, with some sort of mental instability, yet very pleasant and easy to get along with.

I engaged her in conversation right where I was, standing on the sidewalk in front of my house. I could still see nothing except darkness, yet I sensed who she was but can give no physical details for a description. The conversation was difficult at first, with the words she spoke that did not appear to have meaning or context.

However, I was guided to take her right hand in my left hand, and I could then PHYSICALLY feel that sensation of holding her hand! Just the same as I did when I physically felt the chairs and table before exiting the house!

Upon holding her hand, I could immediately sense a ‘connection’ and understanding, and I was able to converse with her easily. She was telling me all the different things she like to do, and I remember one question I asked was, “Are you happy here?” in order to get a sense of direction where to go.

She reluctantly answered ‘Yes, but…..’ trailing off and indicating there was some discontent. She then told me she wished it wasn’t ‘summertime’ all the time, indicating to me that I needed to build on this statement. (I recall the sense of a beautiful summer day when we spoke, even though upon fully awakening it was 4am and pouring rain!)

I do not recall the entire conversation, however, I was guided to ask, “Have you ever thought about having a different life? or visiting a different world?”, not really knowing where my words were coming from!! She said, ‘that would be so nice!’ and I ‘felt’ it was rather boring there for her so I continued on by asking, “I have my friend inside the house who would love to tell you all about other lives and worlds, maybe you could come in with me and we’ll talk.” (Again, I knew I had to get her to ‘look’ for the help that was there)

She followed me to the front porch door and as we stepped up, the fading pullback began. I slowly aroused to the sound of pouring rain, and the clock chiming 4am. During the entire experience I was aware someone else was with us, but there was no interaction at all between us.

I would like to think that perhaps my ‘physical’ touch was what was needed to get her to ‘focus’ on our conversation and bring here awareness to the point where she could ‘look for’ additional help.

I never know completely whether I am successful, however, I have the inner knowing that it is because I still remain partly in that ‘physical’ state while OOB, it gives me that added ability to offer assistance to those who remain so closely connected to the lower physical realm.

hmm so I'm going to ask for advice if thats alright


well in the last 2 weeks I've had about 4 projections (my firsts) so its been really exciting but the problem is I have a lot of trouble leaving my physical body. I find that I can only 'see' when my astral body is in my physical body. Like I can move my astral arms through the covers (they are slightly translucent) but I have trouble getting my body off the couch. When I do manage to break away usually I have no vision or it is slightly impaired. Also I will constantly just find myself staring through my physical eyes and be back in my physical every minute or so although I do not know if my eyes are really open or not.

My best projection was when I thought I was out of the trance but i was actually still in the astral body, and got off the couch and attempted to make breakfast lol. Today i reached the window and managed to look outside but that's about as far as I got.



I wonder if this is how it was like when you started out, or if you have any advice, thanks!

Originally Posted by wet_roof113

hmm so I'm going to ask for advice if thats alright

Well of course it is!! I love to help anyone any time I can!

well in the last 2 weeks I've had about 4 projections (my firsts) so its been really exciting but the problem is I have a lot of trouble leaving my physical body. I find that I can only 'see' when my astral body is in my physical body. Like I can move my astral arms through the covers (they are slightly translucent) but I have trouble getting my body off the couch. When I do manage to break away usually I have no vision or it is slightly impaired. Also I will constantly just find myself staring through my physical eyes and be back in my physical every minute or so although I do not know if my eyes are really open or not.

You are doing a great job so far! In the beginning it is difficult to know how exactly you will 'react' to the new feelings and experiences, so many times it's trial and error until you realize what works best for you.

Not being able to 'see' is VERY common! I still have difficulty 'seeing' at times, and have learned to just move through the motions without regard to it. Sometimes I'll remember to affirm, "clarity now!" which helps, other times, it just comes and goes on its own, so I disregard the fact I can't 'see' and move on.

Getting to move off the couch is done easiest for me by 'rolling out'. Its really just a matter of 'intending' to get up by rolling off the side. Many times I have my astral legs moving all over the place, so it's my signal to roll out. Just roll like you are getting up with any second thoughts, and the astral body will usually follow.

Move quickly away from the physical body, as the closer you are to the physical body, the easier it is to be pulled back in. Don't even think about the ability to see, because any thoughts of the physical body (as you have found out) will pull you back in. Despite it being 'dark', just move to where you know the door or window is and get out. (You don't actually have to go to the door/window, but in the beginning it is best to just keep it as 'normal' as in physical routines). Vision will come when you are ready to 'see', don't give it a concern. You can NOT rely on the same visual 'sense' as in the physical body. I actually think it's more important to learn by 'feel' in the astral first, as that is the primary 'sense' you use.

My best projection was when I thought I was out of the trance but i was actually still in the astral body, and got off the couch and attempted to make breakfast lol. Today i reached the window and managed to look outside but that's about as far as I got.

This is great! I recall many times (including the next post here) where I know I'm OOB, but yet there is such 'realness' to it all that I question myself! One of my firsts exits I heard the bed alarm go off, thought I was late for work, rolled out and moved....only to wake up soon after and realized I was OOB!

It's difficult to explain clearly, but when you are OOB, it 'feels' JUST THE SAME as in physical in the sense that you are clear thinking and moving as usual. But, because you 'know' you are OOB, you can then do the 'fun' things like fly, move through walls, etc. to 'prove' to yourself over and over that you are indeed out and having fun!

I wonder if this is how it was like when you started out, or if you have any advice, thanks!

You a definitely on the right track! I hope this helps some. Please don't hesitate to email me or post here with any questions or concerns. There is SO much to learn OOB, and I am still such a novice!

Thanks for the post,
Karen

6.6.09

I am thrilled to receive a wonderful birthday OBE once again this year! Having had consistent OBEs the past two years on my birthday, the intention and expectation was strong enough for another successful experience. My intentions for this birthday, as usual, was to help others who need assistance and if possible, to have a visit from one who is at a higher level for me to speak with. Once again, request was granted! Though there is some limited recall, the ending presence of a higher being was unforgettable!

My first recollection was just a ‘knowing’ that it was time to roll out, so I did! This time it was easy, light, and I moved quickly to the side door. By the time I was at the door, my vision was becoming clearer (since it is almost always darkness for a while) and I can see the porch outside. I feel the change as I move through the door to the porch, where I ask to be taken to ‘where I need to go’.

I take off flying, once again SO enjoying the freedom of flight, doing the flips and turns of unencumbered movement! I see the treetops and surrounding hills, and even remember there was an animal below (dog?) that I tried to play with by picking up a stick and throwing it.

My next recollection of hearing music, but also being aware I’m back on the couch. Knowing that music is always a signal for moving OOB, I just look around and see it coming from the window near my head. It’s a 50’s type music (with the words,” hey,hey, hey, hey”) with a catchy tune and I’m singing along.

I remember thinking I’m at home and OOB, so I call out to no one in general, “is anyone there?” trying to see if there is one who needs help. Getting no response, I then remember that neither my stepson nor daughter is home tonight (true statement remembered while OOB about physical life). With that, I move to the bed room area where their rooms are located.

I stop outside the closed door to my stepson’s room, and realize everything ‘feels’ so solid and real! I am slightly confused as to whether I am OOB (as I thought I was) or actually in physical! I try to pull on the door, and can feel how solid it is as it opens.

As I look into the room, I am so surprised to see someone there! I think immediately that this must be my stepson and apologize for intruding, saying, “oh! I’m sorry! I was told you weren’t going to be home tonight!” I felt embarrassed, and found myself quickly back on the couch, where a younger 30-something male was waiting.

(In hindsight, I did not take the time to realize that the bedroom was totally different than ‘real’ life. There was a much larger bed, with fluffy comforters, positioned in such a way that it couldn’t have been my stepson. I may have been directed there to speak with the young boy in the bed, but due to my surprise and embarrassment, I left too quickly! I need to remember that emotions are to be kept in check while OOB, but the ‘physical realness’ of this situation made me unsure of my OOB status)

Now, back on couch, even though I am unsure of my OOB status, I don’t think twice about this strange male figure on the couch with me! I am talking comfortably with him, and he is telling me about how difficult it is to get his son to comply with something (traction?). He talking about 60/40, with the idea that he needs to be doing it 60% of the time, but just can’t get his son to listen. I get the feeling it is sports related (football?). The responses I gave to him were to make him realize he was the ‘parent’ and that he had to take the responsibility to enforce compliance with his son.

I remember telling him something to the effect, who is the boss anyway? who is the parent?, and if you tell him he can’t go to football if he doesn’t do his traction, then he must listen to you. The male is concerned because he also plays football and doesn’t want to stop his son from going as well. I impressed upon him that he was the parent and he needed to make the rules.

I was so certain I was still ‘in physical’ that I remembered I wanted to get back to my travels and hoped I still had time! I went to lie down on couch to try to get back to sleep and became aware that there were different people passing by! I have limited recall here, but I know I was back and forth on the couch talking to different people who are coming by and asking, “Can I help you?”

I vaguely remember one time I heard talking from above my head on the couch, and an elderly black male moved to my side. His voice was soft, halting, and he was speaking about his concern for his son. I don’t recall the exact reasons, because I was having a difficult time understanding him as he would whisper his words, trailing off, and I had to repeatedly ask him to speak louder and clearer. I have no idea what his concern was, but I felt I was there to comfort him and give him someone to talk to. I distinctly heard the name of a college near me, and feel perhaps this son may have something to do with that institution. Otherwise, his words were not clear enough for recall.

My memories here are not good, but I do remember hearing different kinds of music at both ends of the couch, and moving back and forth as I interacted with others. At one point, I heard a phone ring, and moving to that area, heard a small female voice say something about being ‘fearful’. It was unusual in that it was a tiny voice, with the impression of a tiny, tiny female – even to the point where I feel it could have been a ‘fairy’-type spirit. Again, I have no further recall of what I did.

The most impressive memory I have is what happened at the end of the experience. I am still on the couch, thinking I am ‘really awake’, yet not bothered at all by the number of people I am interacting with! Suddenly, I ‘feel’ a flash of light and a powerful presence that appears on my right on the couch.
Intuitively I know this is one who is at a more advanced level coming at my request, and I distinctly remember hugging her and remarking, “Oh good! Someone came as I asked!” Although I had no visual image, it was a female with a distinctly strong accent (one with lots of hard ‘g’ sounds) and a soft soothing voice, closely resembling British English speech. (I recall an experience previously where I have heard this same female accent)

The odd thing is the entire time she is with me, there is a ‘hand’ over my face, as I could feel the fingers of a right hand keeping my eyes covered, and resting lightly on my cheek. I am not sure if it was my own ‘astral’ hand, or someone else’s.

She spoke with me in a matter-of-fact manner, answering my questions in a manner that I felt I was to pay attention to. I asked, “Am I not ready? Am I doing it right?” (in hindsight, I am not sure what I meant by ‘ready’!) and her response was, ‘no but that would be worth the 15 minutes to get here, to listen for me and what I say, and then we would have all the time in the world to do anything!’

Her words were more ‘feeling’ than words, and it left me with the message that I need to devote more time, even 15 minutes a day, to reaching that mind state where contact can be made with my guides. The more I do it, the easier it will become and the better connection I can have with those who guide me. I also understand that though it may be only 15 minutes in ‘real world’ time, there is much that can be accomplished because within the astral and upper dimensions there is no ‘time and space’ to limit me.

At this time, I remember there could have been more to our conversation, but my memories faded very quickly with full awakening.

It’s been a while since I’ve posted any more experiences here, but it’s not because I have not had any, but more due to the fact that they don’t seem to have the depth and degree of learning that I like to share with everyone. Nonetheless, I will post a synopsis of the previous three, just so you can make a determination for yourself whether it is useful to you or not.

June 14, 2009

With this experience, I became aware of that was already ‘out’ as there appeared to be a different ‘light’ to my surroundings. I knew I desperately wanted to go see NJ, so I set that intention, and could actually ‘feel’ hands grasping onto my hands. I pleaded with whomever it was holding my hand to take me to NJ!

Immediately I ‘felt’ the knowing that I didn’t have to wait for others to help me. I could just ‘intend’ to be there and go myself! I immediately felt the familiar backward movement with that thought, and amazingly could then ‘see’ NJ clearly, sitting in an armchair smiling broadly! It was with such clarity that I knew it had to be his ‘energetic’ self.

The scene quickly transitioned to a darker room, with him now lying on his side, and I remember I’m now yelling his name into his ear trying to wake him! In ‘physical time’, it was when he would be sleeping, so I am assuming that this second scene was the ‘physical’ position he was in and if his ‘astral self’ was already out, then no wonder I couldn’t wake him!

June 19, 2009

This experience started with another ‘false awakening’ that I am getting quite used to dealing with! This time, I’m sleeping on the couch and become aware that my daughter is walking up to the couch to see me. She bends over and kisses me, and I still ‘pretend’ to be asleep (as I have learned to ‘not react’ to familiar events while on the couch), and as she walks away, she playfully tugs at my blankets and pulls them off!

I am determined not to fully wake, even though I was pretty sure I’m lying there without covers! But I continue to ‘not react’ to see what happens, and sure enough, I find my legs floating in mid-air! (My sure signal that I’m ready to roll out!)

I did a slow roll out, getting out easily and clearly, and with the affirmation ‘to the door!’, moved away from the body. However, I remember finding myself flat on the floor on my face! Somehow I knew I just had to ‘intend’ to go where I wanted to go, I affirmed ‘to the door!’ once more and easily moved to the front door. (I know there was another exit through the side door this same night but I have no recollection of where I went!)

I took off flying from the front porch, and even though I ‘knew’ I needed to intend a destination, I wanted to first enjoy that freedom of flying and flipping!! I took the time to just swoop and dive, back flipping and spinning – just because it felt so good to do!

My next recollection is arriving in an area where there are people living in a tent-like covered area. There is a family here I’m with, and I know I’ve been here before. I’m helping them to get ready for some big wind storm, and there is a father with two daughters speaking to me as they lined up with others. He’s telling me that his three-year-old daughter had been left behind and he was worried about her! I knew immediately her name, Corinne, and I offered to go look for her. I remember yelling her name over and over, (Corinne!) in search of her.

My next recall finds me in a farm area, inside a barn, looking around for something. I notice a puppet-like character sitting above me in an alcove, playing a drum set! Not finding what I’m looking for, I move out of the barn to another area.

This time, I am in what ‘feels’ like a German factory building, and I felt there was danger here as I ‘feel’ like I’m supposed to be afraid (but I’m not, as I intuitively know that I cannot be harmed while in the astral!) There is something about the German military-type people here, and there is very limited recall. At one part, I do remember following behind this one soldier, knowing he couldn’t see me yet also knowing I wasn’t supposed to be there! (I could ‘sense’ the danger associated with it). Because I knew he couldn’t see me, I teasingly ‘blew some air’ at his back, and he immediately turned as if he felt it! Even though he acted like he couldn’t see me, I know he ‘knew’ someone was there!

I then hear this female voice off to the side tell me, “But I can see you!” which immediately made me think, ‘oh no!’ and I quickly moved away from that area! I left knowing I was ‘playing with danger’ in that situation.

Off to the side, I join in with some younger ‘ones’ playing with toys, waiting. (I notice I did not say ‘children’ in my recording, as I don’t feel they were actually children in that respect). I take note that their ‘toys’ are very similar to ours, as there is a piano-type toy, and another wind up one that spins and talks (similar to our ‘See-N-Say’ toy.) I remember it stopped on an animal (elephant), and it would tell you all about the elephant and what it is and does, something much more sophisticated than our toys here.

At this point in the recording, I know I am forgetting so many other details as I knew I was all over different areas, but I also know I never did find Corinne! Everything, as usual, fades so quickly with full awakening, and what I am left with is these bits and pieces.

July 3, 2009

Again on the couch, I become aware of slight buzzing, which feels more like a ‘fuzziness’ that brings my awareness to the conscious level. One thing I have learned is that if even if I am doubtful if I’m awake or pre-OOB, that I should always attempt the roll-out! That ‘question’ of reality at any time is a sure clue that you are NOT ‘in reality’ and need to move out!

I was excited to be out once again, and could move easily to the door using ‘clarity now!’ to see and felt the texture change as I passed through to the outdoors. I felt the cool air outside, and once again, took off flying to enjoy my freedom. I recall I had VERY clear thinking this experience, which made me remember I wanted to go ‘inward now!’ as my destination.

I affirmed ‘to my higher self!’, did a little spin to get things started, and then felt the usual familiar movement through darkness, indicating I was traveling. However, I was disappointed to see that when the movement stopped, I was still in my front yard!

Now I’m emphatically trying to go ‘to my Higher Self NOW!’ thinking if I said it with emotion, I’d get somewhere quickly. I now feel the same familiar backward movement in sitting position (as if riding a train), for a long time, but was disappointed once again, when I suddenly moved into a slow fade back to the couch by now hearing the waterfall I have outside my window as I transitioned to full awareness.

The feeling I had is that I DID go somewhere, but there is absolutely NO recollection of any events! I will just be hopeful that much of my learning is ongoing, on a higher level that is just not conducive to any conscious recall.

7/26/09

My OOB experiences have diminished greatly in content and quality, mainly becase I am finishing some advanced level training and education for the next 6 - 8 months and just don't have the time to focus on them as much as I used to.

However, they ARE still happening, but in a very brief and almost disappointing way. For instance, just last night, I recall actually getting out, although it was MUCH more difficult than usual (probably due to not keeping up with it).

I struggled to sit upright when I 'knew' I was ready to move out, and can even remember the 'pulling' sensation that pulled me back somewhat. However, I did move away, heading for the door, but got distracted by a wall nearby that had something interesting I wanted to look at!!

When I looked, I knew I could just go 'through' the wall, so I did! I recall feeling the texture changes and a falling sensation... .but then that was the end of it!!! Did I do more and not recall? or did I just go back? Very disappointing. ..but still...I was out!

Sorry for any disappointment, but no one is more disappointed than me!!

However, this does validate for me that it is the effort and determination that one 'intends' to put toward doing this that drives the success and frequency of their happening!!

So, for those who have the time and are having success, I'm waiting to hear from you!! Maybe that will motivate me a bit more!

8/06/09

My first ‘awareness’ for this OBE was of the ‘astral vision’ opening, where I am aware I lying on the couch but able to ‘see clearly’ into an opening in front of me. What I see is a man, dressed in medieval clothing walking around a stone building as if it trying to find a way in.

This ‘watching’ of the astral vision gave me the knowing that I was in the right state of mind for an OBE. However, I then heard someone walking toward the couch and questioned whether this was something real or a ‘false awakening’. I have learned that if I have any doubt as to my ‘reality’, then I am to remain quiet and unmoving, to let things unfold and see what happens.

A ‘male’ presence was now standing next to me on the couch. I could feel his anxiousness, as he stood there not speaking, yet giving me the ‘feeling’ of wanting something. I then realized I could feel someone’s hands holding my own hands above my head and yet another pair of hands holding my feet!! A small bit of fear rose in my mind with this anxious male standing nearby and both my hands and feet restrained! I wiggled my feet and tried affirming, “release them now!’ but without success.

Somehow I knew I could not let the ‘fear’ take control and my previous lesson of ‘sending love’ when faced with a fearful situation came back to me. I ‘sent love’ to the male, whereupon he exclaimed, ‘oh thank you! I just needed to know that you love me!’ and he disappeared!

I regained my composure now to ask, “who are you?” to the ones holding my hands and feet. Off to my side, I heard a female answer me, but was not able to understand the name. Three times I had to ask, before I was able to hear her name…Rory (rhymed with Lori) Skylar Rhondles….or something like that. I remember I used the mnemonic “ RSR” to remember her initials. (Her last name began with Rhon…but not sure how it ended)

It is a bit hazy as to what exactly happened next and in what order. She was an informally dressed young woman (20’s) who moved off to my left as I sat up on the couch. Whoever was holding my hands and feet was gone – in hindsight, it may have been their way of making sure I stayed in this area for Rory.

I asked, ‘What are you doing here?” and her reply was that she was trying to help others “marry off” so that she (or they?) could get a “well-deserved nap” (?) (Again, what made perfect sense while OOB makes no sense while awake!)

As she moved over to the floor to get something to eat (?), I realized I could no longer see her! I say, “I can’t see you!” and she replied, “But I’m right here in front of you!”

What I realized was that she was completely ‘in shadow’, as there was a bright light coming from behind me, and my positioning created a shadow that fell over her. As I leaned to the side, the light would shine on her and I could then see her again. I remarked, “I can’t see you when you are in the shadow” and she calmly replied, “oh, that’s right” like she was accustomed to dealing with type of situation.

On the floor beside us were small green ‘fuzz’ balls, and she replied, ‘come on, have some!’ indicating this was food to eat. I remember I tried to pick up these ethereal fluffy green balls but without any luck. (I recorded some reference to ‘cat food’ at this point, but have no idea where it fits in!)

“Oh, that’s right, you can’t eat it either!” was her remark. At this point, I thought that I should try to get back so that I could remember this experience, and for the first time, could actually feel my astral body return to my physical body! Usually, I just waken into consciousness without any memories of how I returned, but this time, I recall the entire movement from the floor and drifting gently back into the lying position on the couch!

Knowing I have to record this to remember the details, I find my recorder quickly but once again find it is broken! The buttons are all disconnected and I remember thinking that the ‘boys’ I lent it to previously must have broken it and didn’t tell me! My disappointment ended quickly as I returned to a full awake state and found the recorder in good working condition! (What I didn’t remember was that this broken recorder theme is another ‘false awakening’ that signals I am still not fully conscious!)

It seems that I may be getting a bit ‘rusty’ in my OOB experiences and my ability to recall previous lessons since I do not have the time to really focus on my OOBE learning right now. However, I am thankful to continue to have these small encounters to remind me that I have not forgotten everything I have learned!

Hi again everyone!

At this time, I am only posting here and on my blog (http://karen659.blogspot.com/) those experiences where I feel there is something of some importance that others may learn from. I have had a few other OOBEs just prior to this one, but again, they were mainly for my enjoyment, as the best I would be able to share with you is my love of flying and doing acrobatic swoops and spins!! lol

As always, I am open to anyone who wishes to write and share comments or experiences. I do wish let you know that you CAN do this - and that you CAN set intentions and have them be experienced!!

9.06.09

Part 1
I went to the couch and attempted to remain aware as I fell asleep, using my energy circulating visualizations. My first awareness of something happening was hearing someone walk into the living room (it sounds so 'physical' that I always feel it's real, but remain quiet in case it's more - which it almost always is!)

This person came up to the couch and unexpectedly, jumped onto the couch near my feet and curled up with a sigh as if going to sleep with me! I realize immediately it is my daughter (one who has been going through rough times lately) and I instinctively know this is her 'non-physical' self that has come to be with me.

I even remember that I was able to recall the fact that she is currently out of state and therefore cannot really be here in physical - so this confirmed to me it was an OBE starting. I remember that I told myself she was in Virginia, but in physical reality, she is now in California! Minor detail, but it shows how the 'mind' works even in the astral - it knew she was 'out of state'!! (Hmmm, actually both physically out and also 'energetically' out!)

Knowing I'm OOB, I sit straight up, move to her side and gently call her. She's distressed, telling me all these things she has to do (dentist, labs?) so I put my arm around her and get her moving with me. I tell her we're going to 'take a ride' (not exact words, but to this effect) and we move together toward the side wall of the living room.

I remember I worried slightly that she may not be aware she can easily pass through the wall and will hesitate, but I just take control and move with her through the wall to the outside night air. I feel the cool, invigorating freshness and fly upward toward the night sky with her at my side, arm in arm.

We fly together, and it feels SO wonderful! I ask her, where do you want to go? I have a brief memory recall that I wished to go see someone, but also knew that the moon was of special meaning as well. I recall seeing a beautiful nighttime horizon before us and the gently curve of the earth as we flew so high, so I asked if she wants to go see the moon!

She says no, she needed to go to 'Virginia' to see her Marine fiance and be sure he is ok. (In reality he's in California - where she is now!) I say, 'OK', and tell her that we can be there instantly by just 'knowing' we are there, and will not need to continue flying. We then closed our eyes, focused on where we wanted to be, and knew as we opened them we were where we wanted to be.

My next recollection was that we were flying high above our intended area, and told her 'we are here, let's go down!' and with that, the fade back began and I awoke back on the couch. I felt so happy upon waking - the love and comfort I was able to give my daughter gave me such joy!

Part 2

This part of the night is really very short on details, as I intuitively know it a 'higher level' experience and the degree of return I remember having showed me even more that it was not my usual 'lower physical' OBE. You will be disappointed with the detail, however, I am NOT disappointed with the OBE!! I just wish I could make you 'feel' all that I felt and experienced! I am left with such deep joy and love....

I have to also say that in addition to meeting someone, I put forth the intention that I would like to be with my guide(s) and to learn more. I can't believe how well intention works....It was even more than I ever expected!

The first part of the OBE found myself with a guide (perhaps even more than one) that were showing me various rooms. In each room there was so much learning going on! I was enveloped with an 'experience' within each room, yet have no recollection of what each experience was! I recall watching a 'video' at times, yet it was more than just watching - I was a part of it!

Once I was done in one room, I moved into another, and then another....and each time there was another 'experience' that I so loved!! I SO wish I could recall what I was doing, but it was truly indescribable.

At one point, after a series of rooms and joyous learning, I told my guide that I wished to go see a friend. I distinctly remember a transition of sorts...and then that wonderful sensation of my friend entering on my left and I asked, "is it really you??" and yet knowing that it was!

There is no specific details of our time together except the knowing that it felt like it lasted forever and that I was able to experience all that I wanted to experience!! There was no 'time' just 'experience'....this entire OBE was all about 'experience' and the sensation of being with and knowing.....oh, I just can't describe it well at all!!!

Interesting, though, throughout the entire 'experience', I KNEW I was OOB and was always looking for that 'signal' to go back, not because I wanted to, but because it was SO long!! It had to be the longest OBE ever! Yet, I was being allowed to stay and experience more and more, in such a joyous state!

One detail I recall was that I felt I needed to 'see' this friend - as I could not 'see' a physical form. I tried to use my 'eyes' to focus, but gave up after a while and just went with the total 'experience'....It was just so moving and emotional....

That began the first 'pull back' where I entered a mindstate where I knew I was 'waking' but believed I was truly awake! I was trying to record what had just happened (it was SO much to recall!) that I was upset I was already forgetting much of it!!! Then a second 'pull-back' began and I realized that I was NOT fully awake and recording, and with the full awake status, I forget even more!!!!

This double pullback always tells me that the OBE was of such a 'high level' state that my recall is not going to be much because I was so far 'out'. It feels like an entirely different way of 'understanding', a wholly different way of 'experiencing' that just cannot be put into words.

The entire OBE was all about 'experience' and what I felt was of such a high intensity that I just can't even begin to make others understand how it felt! SUCH a loving, joyous emotional state - and yet these words don't even begin to describe it!

VALIDATION of a meeting in the astral!!

I just have to post here to share my excitement at the latest OBE that I had just this morning...

I do not have the time right now to write it up in detail (but I will!), but suffice to say, I have NO DOUBT in my mind that I met up with an intended person! I have done this a few times, but the intended person would have limited or no recall of the experience except for 'generalized' feelings...

This time, we set up the plan that on the same night we would 'intend' to meet each other in the astral. He was to come to MY house and I was to wait for him here (as I am always flying off to other areas!! lol)

Upon discussing our experiences we have discovered a perfect match in location and events!

Without giving long boring details, I had a number of OBEs last night - and each time I would get out, I found myself experiencing more and more 'physical' sensations and events. This is difficult to explain, but even though I had no doubt I was out of body, I found myself questioning the experience at times because I was able to 'feel' physical textures and bodily sensations that I normally cannot.

In hindsight, I can see now that I was preparing for the meeting that we had set up, because I had 'intended' to have as much physical sensation as possible incorporated into it!

So, to get to the validation, my recall of the meeting starting with gettting OOB and flying around my front yard. I then saw a car drive into my driveway, and somehow knew it was him!! He was driving, and I flew down and entered the car where the 'physicalness' sensations returned!! I could reach out and feel the other person- and it was awesome!

However, it ended very quickly, with only memory of the 'physical'-ness and some conversation.

Upon discussion and comparing notes, the other person flabbergasted me by telling me right out that he was driving a car to see me, and that I entered the car and spent just a 'short time' with him!! To me that's four hits - the car, he's driving, coming to me and being with me, and a short time!

Although there isn't a lot of detail here, it is SO validating for me to even have these same facts that were correlated!

Now many will question this validation, but I have to say - that there is not much in the astral that will be 100% validated by anyone who is NOT a part of the experience! Doubts and questioning of the event is allowed, so I do understand if this is not enough 'validation' for them.

However.......I have NO DOUBT..................and I'm thrilled to say it was a success in my book! It CAN be done!!!

(As soon as I can, I will write the multiple OBEs I had last night up...stay tuned!)

Thanks for sharing my excitement!
Karen
http://karen659.blogspot.com/

9/13/09 VALIDATION success – FULL OBE experience

As promised, here is the full account of my experience that wonderful night. Even though I have always known it is possible to ‘meet’ living persons in the astral (as Monroe and others have done), until you DO it yourself – there is always that little piece of doubt!!! No more for me!

I did my usual routine of going to the couch with the intention of having an OBE where I could meet up with a friend that was also going to try to get OOB the same night. For some added background, this friend is a fellow OBEr who lives in a different country (and time zone) than I am located and we have been communicating only via email of our experiences.

The likelihood of our ‘real life’ meeting therefore is quite minimal, so we decided to attempt to meet in the astral to see what would happen. We decided that he would attempt to travel to MY house, and I would try to stay here (instead of flying off all over the place like I usually do!) For me, this helps with the validation process, as you have NO preconceived notions of what to expect. I feel when you are meeting with those whom you are familiar; certain events can be biased according to what you already know.

I made the intention of meeting this friend, as well as wish to make it as ‘physical’ as possible – due to the fact that I felt the lower ‘physical vibration’, in keeping close to ‘real life’, would make it easier to remember details. (I have certainly had enough experience with total loss of memory recall in the higher vibrational state!)

On the couch, I became aware of vibrations when I noticed some sort of movement on my left, like someone or something was nearby. Feeling soft vibrations, I tried to intensify them and ‘willed’ them to increase, which they did!

At this time, I knew I was ready to exit, so I just sat straight up and stood up! I headed for the front door, but felt strong tugging, pulling me back toward the couch. I added an emphatic, “to the door!” knowing that the affirmation would get me there faster.

I passed through the door, feeling the change to cooler ‘air’ once outdoors. Strangely, I noted that I could also ‘feel’ the coolness of the cement below my feet! That was a very new physical sensation while OOB.

I am now standing there, feeling wide awake and fully aware! I remembered I wanted to go see my friend, so I jumped up to take off as I affirmed my intention. (And apparently forgetting I was supposed to stay put!)

Surprisingly, I found myself hanging by my arms on the small roof overhang that was above my head! I felt SO physical, because I noticed I could actually feel the muscle tension in my arms holding me up! I said, “What is this? Why am I so physical?” (also apparently forgetting I asked for it!! Lol)

I kicked what felt to be my physical legs up toward the sky as if dismounting, and then I just let go of my arms! I KNEW I was OOB, so there was no fear I was going to fall.

This started a long movement backward, a continuous falling sensation. During this long fall, it felt like my physical eyes were attempting to open, as if waking up, because I could see bits of sky and clouds above me. I’m feeling more and more ‘physical’, worried that I’ll wake completely if my eyes actually open fully! (of course, not realizing that if I am really opening them while on the couch, I shouldn’t be able to see the sky!!) Becoming fully physical, I realized I was on the couch, but in a semi-awake state.

Not wanting to lose the momentum, I thought I’d just try to relax back into the right state and try to exit again. I was surprised to see how easy it was to do! I sat up, and once again found myself OOB.

I knew the previous exit through the front door ended without any successful outcome, so this time I decided to exit through the side door. It was again difficult to move, and at one point I decided I didn’t have to go all the way to the side door, I could just duck out the side wall – which I did!!

I felt the texture change as I passed through to the outside, and found myself flying, but not moving well at all. I can see the trees, and moved higher to above tree level. I began to pick up speed and then was able to do my usual zooming around!

I am now traveling down the road next to my house, watching and knowing this is all so familiar. I ‘know’ my parents house is just down this road on the left, and when I saw it, became excited to think I’d go visit them. (In hindsight – remembering where I was on the road, in reality my parent’s house is NOT down this street as I saw it OOB)

As I neared the house, I felt a transition happening, and once again felt as though I was going to awaken. I realized as I got to the house that it was not their house as it is now. It appeared more ramshackle and worn, and the neighborhood was distressed and poor (not like real life). The transition continued, feeling heavier, and I found myself again awake on the couch.

This time, even though I felt I was awake, I said I have to get out again! I lifted my arm to the armrest above my head and pushed myself up! Surprisingly, I was again OOB! (I would have sworn I was physically awake – but something must have ‘told’ me I should try to get out!)

This time I move to my front yard and I was flying high! I recall looking down at my front yard and watching from above as a car entered my driveway. I immediately remembered I wanted to meet my friend and somehow I KNEW this was him!

I zoomed down to the car, and entered the passenger side as he was driving. I remembered as I neared the car, I could feel that transition of ‘physical-ness’ returning, and worried I was going to wake again!

Once in the car, my only memory is of reaching out to touch him, and I could actually feel it! The experience ended very quickly with my return to the couch in a semi-awake state.

I again didn’t want to get up, and I could still hear some odd noises going on within the room, so I tried pushing myself back up off the couch!

Finding myself out again, I recall I asked if I could help someone, as I always like to do something constructive while OOB, as well as have my fun!

This time, before I could leave the room, I heard female voices laughing and giggling. I asked, “who’s here?” and the girl’s voices got quiet. I asked again, “is anyone here?” and following the voices, entered the area where my real life bathroom is.

I found three young girls (ages late teens, early 20’s) all undressed and laughing. I saw two girls in an old fashioned claw foot white tub, and one standing along side it, behaving very immature and silly. (I even recall looking at the tub and remarking, ‘wow, what a nice old-fashioned tub – similar to my grandmothers!)

I asked, “why are you here? what’s going on?” and the one girl responded with something about being so bad they “don’t deserve to go on further” (?). The silliness continued, and I said, “that’s enough now, it’s time to move one, let’s go!”

With that I helped pull one girl out of the tub, and went to get the other one, but found her completely submerged under the water! I said, “look she’s in trouble!” and pulled her up out of the water as she gasps for air. (I had the distinct feeling that these girls were playing with me, as I ‘knew’ there was no need for air!)

I pulled the plug and watched as the water drained out of the tub. I said once again, “come on, it’s time to move on” and with that left the room.

I moved down the hallway, expected to see the rest of my house as usual. At the end of the hall, however, I unexpectedly turned into a huge well-lit room (one that is NOT there!). It was brightly lit, with yellow/gold accents, and a golden carpet. It felt as though it was a very posh, elegant studio of sorts, with plush chairs lining the entire circumference of the room. In the center was an easel with a square frame and drawing on display. This made me think that an artist lived there and I moved to the far wall where a beautiful desk was located.

A man entered the room from behind the desk, his head turned away from me so that I did not see his face, as if he was speaking with someone behind him. He wore a white shirt and suspenders and appeared to be in his 40’s or 50’s. I wondered if this individual could also be my friend that I wished to meet with!

Without warning, I started an immediate pullback, and woke fully back on the couch. I forced myself to wake because I knew if I didn’t record at this point, even more details were going to be lost!

As for the verification, his version was with much less detail, but in his words: “I’m afraid it was rather fleeting…or at least, my retained memories were! Basically, I was driving a car, with you as passenger….I didn’t think that we were in the states, but now that I think back, you were sitting on my right hand side, so we can’t have been here (where the river sits on the right!). I have just an impression of where we were….there was greenery outside.” (There is lots of ‘greenery’ around my house, with shrubs, forests, and meadows!) This was enough validation for me – even though it may not be for others, I’m very satisfied!!

October 8, 2009 Physical Senses While OOB

This OBE again started with a false awakening, one where I heard what I thought was my son come in the front door talking with a friend as I lay on the couch. As it was the middle of the night, I knew to just ‘lie in wait’ for what would happen next.

I saw two small children, boy and girl of about 6 years, come from the hallway to stand next to the couch where I was lying. “Can you take care of something for us?” was the question I ‘heard’ and immediately rolled out and followed them down the hall to the real life room that I ‘felt’ belonged to my sons. (The room is currently in use by my stepson, as my own boys have since grown and moved out)

Peering into the doorway, I saw three little boys of about 3-4 years old playing around in their beds. They were fully dressed and hiding/playing under their covers, as if not having taken the time to undress and get ready for bed. I asked, “Where are your pajamas?”, and then sternly told them to get out from under the covers and put them on now. This ‘taking control’ of the silliness and telling them to behave was, I ‘felt’, the main reason why the other two older children came to get me off the couch.

Finding myself back on the couch, I realized I could still just ‘roll out’ so I did! Being fully aware, I just took the fastest way outside, through the wall near the couch. I could feel the coolness of the night air as I passed through, and found myself floating gently in my back yard.

I was amazed to next find myself so close to the ground that I could ‘feel’ the leaves from the trees that had fallen already. I remember I even tried to ‘bunch’ them up, resulting in some leaves being pushed into my mouth and giving me a choking sensation!! I remember thinking, “Why am I able to feel these so intensely?” It was surprising as I knew without a doubt I was out of body, yet marveled at the intense physical touch sensation of these leaves!

Clearing the leaves, I floated over to the nearby road, only to discover it was now a ditch full of water! Just next to the ditch, was a walled up body of water, like a very large puddle. Remembering the fun I had with puddles as a child making rivers and dams in the rain, I wondered if I’d be able to release this huge puddle into the ditch.

Pushing against the dirt wall, I was thrilled to see the wall release and the contents drain quickly into the ditch! It was just an awesome feeling, and I remarked to the woman who was with me how much fun it was!

Walking along the edge of the ditch, I’m being careful not to ‘fall in’ because it all feels so ‘physical’…but then, quickly I recall, “what am I so worried about? I’m out of body!” and with a smile and big leap, took a chance and jumped into the water!

I floated to the bottom, and then playfully decided I’d roll over on my back while under the water, and look up to wave and smile at those I left on the banks! I was being silly, having fun, and they smiled and waved in return at my joy. (Funny how even now I can ‘picture’ exactly what it looks like to ‘look up’ from the bottom of that ditch!)

As I moved out of the ditch I could ‘hear’ conversations, and listened intently to a conversation with a group of 4-5 others (at the time I knew who they were, but have no recall now except for ‘past friends’). One of them was a supervisor who had just returned from Ohio (?) and was remarking on how bad the hospital situation was there. All of them were talking, and those who had worked there before agreed with the supervisor that it was bad.

Leaving the group, I moved to a large building, one with a ‘reception hall’ or convention arena feeling. It was all set up for an event. I was so thrilled to be out of body, knowing it without a doubt, and being able to physically ‘touch’ and move wherever I wanted! I moved high and low, looking and touching, and specifically remember floating up near the ceiling next to some heavy drapery that was decorating the hall.

I could ‘feel’ the texture of the drapery as it hung, and knew that in ‘real life’ I’d never be able to do this! I even recall telling a gentleman there, ‘Isn’t this great? You can do whatever you want, go through things, go high and low, know you are out of body, and still have all your physical senses!” He just smiled without saying a word.

I was SO in control of what I was thinking and doing! While high near the ceiling, I then looked down through some narrow slots and could SMELL the wafting aroma of food cooking! Amazed at the sense of smell, I dived down through the very narrow slots, never thinking twice about whether I could or not because I was SO certain of my OOB status.

I remember ‘bouncing’ a bit as I neared the floor, maybe because I didn’t want to pass through the floor and had to put the brakes on! I could see a kitchen area, with pretty clear pink colored dishes on display. There were plates, serving bowls, cups – all a beautiful clear glass-type pink color.

Following the aroma, I moved to a display of fruit in a bowl, but the bowl itself was created by freezing fruit within ice. I thought what a wonderful way to keep the fruit cold – a bowl made by freezing water and decorated with pieces of fruit within it! (I actually thought it was such a good idea that I’d have to remember to use it in my daughter’s upcoming wedding!)

Next to this fruit ice bowl was food cooking, and the aroma was exquisite! Now, I will write what I saw, but it makes no sense now. Of course, at the time, it made perfect sense! A man was showing us how to cook the frozen fruit on a hot steak, so that the fruit would melt as the steak cooked!?! I distinctly remember a slice of pineapple on that steak along with other fruit pieces. The smell was so enticing, and when offered a taste of the cooked fruit, I gladly accepted! I could actually TASTE the fruit, and I woke immediately thereafter when I realized that my physical mouth was actually watering!!!

This OBE was so unique with the ability to actually use my five physical senses while OOB. I SAW clearly those people on the bank of the ditch from underwater, I HEARD the conversations, I TOUCHED the drapery, the leaves, and water dam, I SMELLED the food cooking, and I TASTED that cooked fruit!! Awesome!

wow. i am speechless

Originally Posted by WakingNomad

wow. i am speechless

LOL.....well, when you regain your speech, I'd love to 'hear' what you thought was so interesting!!

Thanks for posting,
Karen

It’s been a while since I’ve had any really good OOBEs to post here as I don’t want to put up uninteresting posts that the readers may find boring. However, with the hectic life I have right now, and for the next six months, I will post those pieces of OOBE’s that I feel are more readable. I know I am still having the learning OOB experiences, but my recall is so limited anymore, possibly due to so many other ‘physical’ concerns to think about in my daily life!

Here’s the latest over the past few weeks:

10/22/09 Astral Vision

I found myself fully aware of lying on my bed, but with my ‘astral vision’ opening. I’m in a car, in the seat behind the front passenger side, looking out the side window of the car. I can see moving scenery, and I notice a huge black electronic sign (turned off) that gets my attention. The clarity is amazing, and I remember thinking how unusual this is to see so clearly while knowing I’m in bed! I turn to look back (to prove to myself that I still can see it!) and watch as the sign fades in the distance.

Now, along the side of the road as the car moves, I see animals lined up along the side of the road. Soon, these animals become ‘distorted’ or misshapen, as I notice that there are parts of different animals on one! For instance, there was what appeared to be an elephant, but with a goat’s head!

Seeing this, and knowing I’m still in bed, I am now aware that I could transition to full OOB if I wanted to. (The anomaly signaled my awareness as it used to do!) But, this time, because everything is just so clear, I just don’t want to try to move out yet!

Looking out the front window of the car, I see the two front seats are empty and yet the car is moving forward. I have no fear at all, as I have become aware of my pre-OOB status and want to have some fun trying to see what I can do.

Again, I feel I have to prove to myself that I am OOB (or at least pre-OOB), I grab a hold of the front passenger headrest and pull myself into a handstand!! I can feel the sensation of ‘blood-rushing’ to my head (physical memory, I’m sure) and with that it caused a lighter state of transition, almost as if waking slightly.

The vision darkened, and I’m still aware of being in the bed, now with the circling of my hand chakras (something that I haven’t had in quite a while). I willed them to be stronger in hopes of returning to the astral vision or OOB mindstate, but was unsuccessful.

Even though this wasn’t really a full OOB experience, it was one of the few times I had the ‘bi-location’ feeling of being in two places at once and with such clarity of vision, I just didn’t want to move out right away.

11/01 Visiting Civilizations
This OOBE was so long in length and detail that there is only a few aspects that I was able to recall. Even while being OOB, I remember I told myself that if I didn’t force myself to awaken soon, that I would not be able to recall much. With that, I decided that I would pursue the experience, for which I’m sure I had some great learning. It just frustrates me that I cannot bring much detail back to share with everyone!

What I do remember is that it took me many attempts to get out of the house once OOB. I could be so heavy, crawling and affirming ‘to the door!’ in order to move. Once I remembered to do a little jump and spin, while affirming ‘inward now!’ and that moved me into my long, long black tunnel pullback sensation.

I remember that I visited many different civilizations of people, interacting and talking with them. I have no specific memories except for the one cave I entered that was dimly lit by yellow light. In this cave was intricately carved ‘things’ sticking out all along the sides of the passageway, narrowing it to the point where movement was difficult. They felt/looked ‘sharp’, perhaps having been carved from bone or horns. I was able to get deep inside the cave and felt the people who did these carving were very small in stature, but it narrowed so much that I felt uncomfortable and decided to leave before seeing anyone.

The only other ‘civilization’ I recall was looking down at these stone walls that formed separate rooms, appearing to me from above as if it were a maze. I gathered with some people who were with a man who was injured, but do not remember anything more. There were events happening that I didn’t even question, just observed and learned.

At some point in this long experience, I remember asking to see my guide, and knowing he was with me, talking with him. I asked him why I wasn’t able to see him, he answered, but I do not now know what he said!

There was so much more to this than I can recall, and it really frustrates me to post something so general. However, I know that the experiences will return when my life settles a bit more so I have to be patient and just share what little I have.

11/10 Reunion

This OBE I had wanted to ‘help someone’ as my intention, in the hopes that there would be something I could share with others. As it ends up, I was the one given help, in knowing that my guides are still with me and want me to be happy.

I again had a difficult exit, but with help from others, was able to roll out. I found myself immediately in an underground area, with a subway type feeling. People were all around me and a particular Hispanic man walked up to me and began talking. I felt a bit uncomfortable with his energy, and was not sure why.

Remembering that I had wanted to ‘help someone’ for this OOBE, I tried to help him by sending love, a technique that worked well in the past. However, this time, he wasn’t leaving. He followed me into another room and I realized I needed help. I asked for my guides to come and I was immediately surrounded by 3-4 other people, with one woman in charge.

They ‘spoke’ to him in his own language, telling him to sit in a chair nearby and wait. It sounded as if it could be Spanish (as I have a limited knowledge of that language) but he was resistant to their instructions at first. However, he moved to a chair in another room and I was able to move away with them into another room.

This room felt as though it was a restaurant of sorts, with a bar and tables set up. The group of guides told me they wanted to show me something in the back. As we entered the back room there was a table elegantly set with beautiful dishes and filled with food.

At one place, a guide asks me to place my hand over the ‘medallions’ to see if I can ‘feel’ their vibrations/energy (this wasn’t the word, but it’s the best description I can give). As I raise my hand over them, I feel the ‘tingling’ and get excited, thinking, “I can! I can!”

At this point they all burst out laughing, and say, “Surprise! It’s all for you”, and I suddenly see familiar faces of friends I haven’t seen in many years! It was a ‘reunion’ of sorts, and there was much laughing and happiness as we shared the food. I recall the one friend who showed me a HUGE strawberry, and offered me a taste. I could again ‘taste’ that strawberry, causing me to salivate (for real!).

As in my past OBE, this salivation brought my awareness up to the point where I realized I had to get recording this in order to remember even parts of it. I find my recorder, but again, see that it is in pieces! However, as I’m trying to get it fixed, pushing buttons and knobs, it is playing! (I should have realized this was a false awakening, but I was intent on getting it fixed!)

Giving up, I decided to look for pen and paper to write it down, and with that I transitioned to a lighter state where I realized it was not happening. I woke, found my recorder intact, and recorded what I remembered. Again, due to that delay with a false awakening, more memories were lost! SO frustrating!

So, please tell me the difference between OBE's and WILDS. I have had OBE's but, they were usually extremely realistic, with the astral world layered over it.

I know the astral and dream dimensions are more alike than the physical dimension.

That long tunnel is a wormhole. Awesome that you felt it.

Originally Posted by WakingNomad

So, please tell me the difference between OBE's and WILDS. I have had OBE's but, they were usually extremely realistic, with the astral world layered over it.

I know the astral and dream dimensions are more alike than the physical dimension.

That long tunnel is a wormhole. Awesome that you felt it.

Waking Nomad - thanks for the post!

Wormhole....transition tunnel....I don't know what it is, but I have been 'down' it many times! ...and usually in a backwards position! lol

It is quite 'synchronous' (aka coincidental!) that I have been talking about 'dual consciousness' in another forum and with another fellow OBEr. I will share what he says, as it it QUITE interesting that Robert Bruce has explained it in another perspective to consider.

IMO, there is really very little delineation between dreams, WILDs, OBEs, etc because there is SO much individual perception of events and interactions. Those we call OBEs are likely to be the ones with MORE of a mental (mind) focus or awareness connection between the 'bodies'.

See if this helps in any way:

Robert Bruce describes the effect as follows:

"A single body, a single mind, a single spirit, but where during OBE the original body/mind/spirit generates an exact copy of itself. In a way, this is much like a remote controlled, flying video camera. But it experiences other dimensions and records the memory of these experiences first-hand. When reintegration is successful, OBE memories are 'firsthand' experiences for the physical body/mind/spirit."

This is a new way of thinking about it, to me. I've recently thought of it as a shift in focus of a mind that is existing in several planes of existence simultaneously. An interesting alternative view to store away for future consideration.

He goes on to say:

"This model allows an intimate relationship between dreams, Lucid Dreams, OBE's and Astral Projections; with no hard line separating them. For example, the same mind can be Lucid Dreaming while it is also having an OBE, while it is also awake in its physical body."

This makes me think of the instances when our lucid dreams do turn into OBEs; as happens with me very often and you said used to happen with you a lot. However, the `mind that is existing in several planes of existence' model equally allows for `an intimate relationship between dreams, Lucid Dreams, OBE's and Astral Projections' , IMO

And there's more! He describes the phenomenon. If you haven't read this, you may be interested:

Mental/Visual Feedback:
If a mentally awake physical mind happens to observe (with real time or astral sight) it's projected double at close range during a projection, a strong visual and telepathic connection can form between them.

This can be a very disturbing experience and I don't recommend this be tried for more than a few seconds at a time. The awake physical mind (whilst a projection is in progress) must see and be seen by it's projected double for this type of connection to occur. Vision, seeing each other at the same time, appears necessary for this type of connection to occur. Once this happens, each side of the mind split, physical and projected, connect and begin to see out of each other's eyes at the same time. Each becomes aware of each other's vision and perspective as well as that of their own.

Once the visual side of this connection occurs, each side of the mind split instantly becomes aware of each others thoughts as well, simultaneously and compounding. This appears to be something like telepathic feed back, much like holding two identical 'mental' mirrors facing each other. This gives an unnatural glimpse of mental infinity - a mental reflection of a mental reflection of a mental reflection, continually compounding.

When two identical minds connect, while separated during an oobe, the two identical sets of vision and thoughts create something that can best be described as a visual and telepathic loop, compounding and feeding back upon itself in a never ending loop. This is an unnatural, incomprehensible, disturbing and possibly dangerous event for any mortal mind to experience.

This uncomfortable and confusing state appears to only occur at close range and can easily be avoided by not looking too closely at each other (physical and projected double) and by not thinking at each other at close range (within approximately twenty feet) during a real time projection. Note: this can only happen if both sides of a projector, physical and projected, are awake and become visually aware of each other during a real time projection.

This all goes a long way towards explaining why dreams and projection memories can sometimes appear so chaotic. The mind splits for a very good reason and the separated copies are meant to function separately.

I have experimented with this phenomena many times during real time projections, after discovering it accidentally during a powerful real time OOBE. I recreated the original 'accident' and studied it because the original experience raised so many questions.

I had always been curious of the way I could often feel my physical body while close to it, and this mind split effect appeared to hold many of the answers I had been searching for. Like many other projectors, I had often experienced confusing anomalies during projections: of being aware of events and noises near my physical body, in and around my house, plus being aware of my remote existence during a projection. This sense of perceived duality, of having two different sets of perception, one physical and one remote, has been reported by many other projectors but has never, I believe, been properly studied or understood.

11/26/09 114) Watching my Exit; Images from Memories; Control of Mind

For this OBE, I had gone to sleep with the intention of wanting to help someone if I could. To give a little background, the day before this OBE happened, I received an email from a new beginner OBE’r asking for help in getting OOB. I now believe this OBE may have been my way of ‘helping someone’ here in physical!

I move to the couch, after sleeping for 4 hours, to try for the OBE. As I drift off, I become aware of a ‘getting ready’ signal of soft vibrations. I knew I could ‘will’ them to be stronger and played with the sensations by increasing them. After about four cycles of increased vibrations, they become stronger and stay strong. It’s interesting to know that while I’m doing this, I am also aware that I’m thinking about what they are, and saying to myself, “these vibrations are the ‘interface’ between the different energy levels of the ‘mind-body’ connection.”

Now I feel my hands floating up and know that I’m ready to separate. Instead of just rolling out as usual, I did an unfamiliar slow ‘climb out’ technique! It was so different than my usual quick separation! It literally felt as though I was doing a slow ‘crawl’ out of my body with such clearness of thought! I’m thinking (while I’m climbing out) that this is so different, that maybe this means I am to ‘watch’ my exit this time because I need to really take note of how I did it so that I could share it with the one who sent the email asking me about it! It’s amazing how ‘clear thinking’ you can still be even when you know you are not ‘in body’!

I then stand at the side of the couch and immediately start moving away, knowing I needed to move away from my body before I get pulled back. I gently glide out the side door, flying very easily, sensing where I am but not seeing clearly. Once on the porch outside, I knew I could go anywhere I’d like, so I fly straight up into the sky, feeling very, very aware and very much in full control of my thoughts and actions.

What is interesting now, is that while I’m flying, I realize that I’m also very aware of being on the couch! This was new, this ‘lightness’ of awareness. It’s tough to describe how I felt, but I can remember thinking that it felt as though my thoughts were being spoken by my physical body as well! I thought that I could hear my ‘voice’ with my affirmations, that my physical mouth was moving! I remember saying to myself that if someone was sitting next to me on the couch, that I believe I could actually ‘talk’ out loud WHILE OOB and share what I was doing! I immediately thought of Edgar Cayce and his trance states, and how this had to be similar. (Now, all these thoughts WERE while I was OOB flying – amazing!)

So I’m talking ‘out loud’ (as far as I know – my consciousness was primarily in the astral body so memories are more prevalent there), saying “to my higher self!” as I zoom along, and my intention of “allow me to help someone”. I was SO aware of my actions, and as I spoke, I felt that immediate transition to the long pull backwards into the black tunnel that is so common for me.

This time, however, I am paying such close attention to how it feels, and what the actual movement feels like instead of wondering where I’ll end up! It’s all so clear and I’m happy to know I’ll be able to tell others how it feels!

As the pullback ends, I’m aware it sounds so similar to the ‘clicking’ of train tracks, as if pulling into a station. I’m still not seeing anything, and at this point I usually see or move into another situation, however this time I just remained where I was in the blackness! I didn’t know what to do!

Without time to think, I hear a female voice fade in, one that ‘echoed’ slightly, saying words I couldn’t pick up at first. There were three words I recall, the first two are phonetic as I am not certain, but the last one I am certain. It was “Mind (mine?)…needs (?)…too.” I am confused wondering if it was related to someone I was to help, or if it was a message for me. At this point, I fade to full wakefulness on the couch and record what I can remember.

Now for whatever reason, I wake enough to check my email to see what’s there and see that the new OBE’r did write back with a question about ‘seeing’ and physical vision during an OBE. I realized then that I need to tell others that this ability to get OOB is not about ‘seeing’ but all about ‘feeling’ your way! You just ‘sense’ what you are doing, and may have been why I had NO vision at all but extreme clarity of thought this time!

I lie back and attempt to re-induce and find myself watching images as they appear behind my closed eyes. I recall familiar black-and-white designs that remind me of a shirt I had worn recently, and then the image change into various scenes, a farmyard, a mountain with clouds, a peaceful field but each time the black and white image would appear between them. I am fully aware of being on the couch, while watching these images.

Now I begin to hear noises, fuzzy at first, but then more like a talk-radio station tuning in. I hear what I believe are radio announcers (I hear them say their call letters and just bantering talk), there is non-specific white noise as well, and at one point I know I hear what a flight attendant would say to her passengers, and I recorded the words “welcome to your flight to Hong Kong, please enjoy the flight movie” and something about ‘catching you if you fall’!!!! It was almost as if I was ‘tuning in’ to the multitude of radio waves encircling the globe!

So I’m listening to the noise, watching the images, and then become aware that my hand and feet are floating! It’s my signal to roll out, so I do. But again, this time, it was SO very different! I could SEE and I could see VERY clearly!

Standing by the couch, I could see everything as clear as if I was physically standing in broad daylight! I am looking at my feet lying on the couch, amazed at the clarity. I moved past the couch, always wanting to get away from the body, but this time I stopped and looked back at myself sleeping on the couch on my left side! I have rarely been able to see myself while OOB, and never with such clarity! I’m thinking, ‘Wow! This is such a different feeling to this exit!’ - unlike any other time – and I wondered if other OBEr’s were able to feel and see like this!

Moving into the living room, I realize I am seeing ‘images from memories’ all around the room. Anything I looked at was a memory, but here it existed as a ‘real’ thing. There were many, many Christmas type ‘images/memories’, a few with my sons as little boys playing with toys, and one with my daughter as a teenager. I was able to interact with the ‘image/memory’ of my daughter and gave her a hug, knowing that was what she needed and to let her know I was there for her. In another part of the room I remember seeing a lamp/decoration from years ago that brought back more memories, and I recall thinking, “I remember that!”

At this point, the living changes into the living room of my childhood at my parent’s house. Once I realize where I was, I eagerly ran up the stairs shouting for my mother (who is still alive). I felt ‘physical’ in movement up the stairs, and at the top where my old bedroom was, I stuck my head inside to see that the room was just as I remember it, not as it is now.

I hear my mom answering me, and pull back, floating a little, which made me realize I was still OOB and did not have to move so ‘physically’! So I float through a wall searching for my mother and find myself in darkness. My mother finds me and we begin to talk. During our conversation, I realize she is not talking like she hears me anymore, and I tell her ‘I have to go’. It was here that I faded back to full awareness on the couch.

I record this, thanking those who gave it to me for such a wonderful experience. I am just in awe of how clear and aware I was throughout the entire time.

One final memory I have of this night happened right before waking. For more background, it’s been a rather tumultuous few weeks here for me with a lot of ‘family issues’ going on that give me concern and turmoil at times.

I remember ‘dreaming’ of many different emotional situations with various people in my life, some very upsetting and frustrating. The last few details of this ‘dream sequence’ were more lucid and clear, so I recorded it as transcribed. I was in a hallway, following behind this short dark haired older woman and recognized her as a famous psychic whom everyone knew. I decided I was not going to disturb her with a greeting, as she probably had enough from others. However, she abruptly stopped in front of me, did a ‘pretend’ bump into me to get my attention, grabbed my arms on both sides and looked at me squarely in the eyes, saying, “If you are going to do this, you need to learn control!” I was a bit taken aback by it all, and woke immediately afterward.

I recorded what she said, not realizing that it may relate to the ‘mind-needs-too’ message that I received in the first part of the night. Perhaps I need to realize that my desire to be all I can be to everyone is taking a toll on my emotional state and I need to find time for myself and be more ‘in control’ of my emotions and the way I am looking at events in my life.

I have to remember that how you perceive this physical life is largely based on how you ‘react’ to the many situations you find yourself in, and if you can control how you react, you can gain a better understanding of what you are to learn from these experiences.