Alien Channelers, Real? Hoax? Or Victims?

[juroara]

well, I'll be staying home today waiting for a phone call to find out if my art made it into a local competition, CANT LEAVE MY ROOM with that said! I wanted to have a more in depth conversation about my two latest threads in the extended discussion, the UFO Hoax and October 14 prediction. Ive been running into a lot of different materials, and its oh-so fun to read and oh-so confusing. I'll be slowly pouring them in here. here are the two threads if you haven't seen them - http://dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=65636 - http://dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=65380 I wanted to aim the conversation towards people who were open minded enough for multiple possibilities - hopefully at least three of the following 1. universal consciousness and all that implies with those words, including ego illusion 2. the ability to communicate with other souls through mind alone 3. the chance that ET's are real, and also evolving into conscious intelligent beings 4. but also, the mass amount of lies and garbage fed to us from all venues, from the media, to the government, to even..CHANNELERS 5. astral projection and what astral projectors say about aliens 6. to even what the religious world says about aliens I'll be posting my strangest, and trying to make connections and sense of the mess. With that said. . . I do not like fear based agendas. I am against fear. I feel fear is used primarily to exert control. Such as the church using the fear of hell. I also want to say, that although I am about to post a lot of different ideas here - I believe in nothing and in everything. That is I believe ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE. But also that which is in front of me, can be an illusion in the tibetan sense. I wanna be honest here, growing up, I hated anything alien! That was because I was just a small little girl when that movie, what was it, fire in the sky came out. I WAS TRAUMATIZED! But I have a fear based relationship with things. If I fear something in one point in my life, later on I am obsessed with knowing everything about and unearthing it. I want to talk about various different Alien first hand experiences that are infamous in the sub culture world. From the Pleidians, to Blossom, to even Dr. Steven Greer! And take a closer look if these people are getting positive attention for their work or not. If they are being 'real and honest', 'deceitful and hoaxing' or 'victims of delusion'. Is their experience 'real'? That is, do we have any reason to believe they are lying? And despite saying something outside the box, do we have any evidence they are delusional? Is it a hoax? Do we have reason to believe the story is about money, or even the old CIA disinformation game? Or is the person a victim. Of either mental disease, spiritual delusion, uh, evil spirit mind control, or even mind control brought by machines and drugs ******************************** Now a lot of people hiss at the word channeler, especially religious folk. But at the same time, if I view channeling as 'consciousness connecting to consciousness', then couldn't we say, all spiritual gurus have channeled? I mean, you might be able to argue, Jesus channeled Tao? Buddha channeled, Higher Self? now as spirituality is concerned, channeling is a real possibility. But a precarious one. Many spiritual buffs argue, you can only channel/connect to a consciousness as far as high as you are willing to take your consciousness. Or even, as far as you are willing to drop the ego. Someone who can drop the ego, can then connect to Godhead - and speak in the name of such Godhead. Now I realize its not entirely accurate to say connecting to the higher self is channeling the higher self, because the higher self is YOU. And channeling implies 'someone' else. The reason I am drawing a connection is, because in the belief of the universal consciousness, the boundaries between you and me is an illusion. Because it is an illusion, one mind transcends boundary and connects to mind. Even, if is an alien mind. At the core, its all the same mind. This is the basis of alien-new-age. Nearly all alien channelers believed in that universal consciousness, and the non locality of the mind. Does this mean we should hold them up enlightened buddhas? NO. Because still in this non locality of mind matrix, you can connect to another's ego, and it's duelistic delusions. So even if we were to believe that channelers are in fact channeling the consciousness of another, how do you know that other is enlightened? or worthy of listening to?

[juroara]

How do you judge the merit of a channeler? (and if you don't believe in channeling don't worry, I've already looked into an alternative idea that I am going to post shortly, unless someone beats me to it. No, not just hoaxing or even delusion. . .something much cooler!) Well, the best spiritual gurus of humanity speak of the ego. The more enlightened you are about the ego and its duality, the more you can spot it in yourself *firstly* and in others. How duelistic does blossom sound? http://www.blossomgoodchild.com/ keeping in mind, if what important spiritual teachers teach is true, than a hoaxer out for money is BOUND TO HAVE duelistic messages. such a person out to steal your money, is trapped in ego illusion. Blossom, if you haven't already read - claims the Federation of Light has spoken with her, and they say they will appear on October 14, 2008 in a mass eyewitness account that will force global disclosure. Other channelers are starting to bark up the same tree, agreeing with Blossom. (ill link them as soon as I find them again) One channeler even said - the ship will be so large, an entire city will find itself in darkness underneath the ship. So were talking something from an observer on the ground - horizon to horizon. Sounds nutty huh? I found it amusing because they also said they (the aliens) would hang around for three days. So then the words, the three days of darkness popped up into my mind Blossom as well as the other alien channelers say, the aliens come in peace. Some have suggested Blossom is out for the money, since she is charging something like $15 for past lectures with the Federation of Light. so others are already screaming "SCAM!!" But there is more to it than that, for one she says she's a channeler of White Cloud, a native american spirit. That this Federation of Light business is relatively new stuff to blossom. White Cloud has given Blossom a sort of following, those who want to hear what White Cloud, the native american spirit, has to say. Do you think its realistic for Blossom to lose her White Cloud following base, over alien business? That's probably the part I'm having the hardest time understanding. If you have a faithful following, and you really are out for the money, why this drastic change? Especially with the Federaton of Light, that is being channeled by so many others? If she was out for the money, wouldn't channeling a native american spirit make her more UNIQUE? On the website you can find recent channels of the Federation of Light between AFTER the October 14 annoucement. Blossom says, she will keep channeling until the event. Here are two snippets. The Federation of Light is in bold. "5.Well, your announcement continues to rock the world it seems!! I have been asked to ask you so many questions, which you are probably aware of. I put my TRUST in you (CLEARLY!) and know that you will say what needs to be said. However … if I may be so bold … other channells that have confirmed this date have said that it could be changed at the last minute for our safety. Someone who I have come to highly respect has suggested to me this would be because … and I quote … ‘The Galactic Federation do not want a confrontation where they are forced to defend themselves, not that they couldn't as they clearly can deal with whatever is thrown at them. It would give the impression that some kind of Space War was starting, and that is the last thing they want. That may also put some of our people at risk, so they would not take chances where our safety was concerned.’ As much as I understand that …and if this is so … wouldn’t that be the case what ever date you showed up? I feel this is also a reason why you are being so discrete about where that ‘showing up’ is going to be. However … if I may be so bold? IF you don’t show up on the 14th, you are not only going to make me lose MY street cred but YOURS as well!! I KNOW you KNOW all this (here we go again) but are you able to enlighten me on this matter? I FEEL it is imperative you show on that day or people will just put it down to another crackpot under a ridiculous illusion. (Especially my mum, love her as I do!) Welcome to you first and foremost. We see how we have turned your everyday living into something very different from what it was and we send you energy as you have asked. Regarding the subject matter of which you have just mentioned … ALL PLANS are underway for this date." and a later one "I am trying, Truly I am . But one can get swept away with all that is being said about the event. The biggest concern for me being that other channels are saying it may not be possible on the 14th , but it will be happening soon/now/ up until feb09/ by the end of Oct? Etc, etc. At the end of the day it will be what it will be and nothing and no-one can change that. I get that. But would you say then … OK… deep breathe… cos you know how I shrivel in anticipation when asking questions … that you are going to appear on the 14th OCT? YES BLOSSOM. THAT IS AFFIRMATIVE! And do you know what … I believe you! THERE I”VE SAID IT!! YEEHA! I’m getting there … slowly but surely. I do question why you chose me though. I’m not exactly one of Gods most intelligent beings. I can’t retain information very well. A mind like a sieve. Then I decided … I KNOW WHAT I KNOW. And I KNOW WHAT LOVE FEELS LIKE. And … the rest?... well, that’s an individuals choice to feed the mind. That’s cool. Yet I find, in order to feed my mind … I must first of all make sure my soul has had breakfast! Phew… I can feel a bit of the Blossom I used to know and Love returning.. LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT. LET’S KEEP THIS WHOLE THING LIGHT.!!!!! There is little time left now until the ‘BIG AWAKENING’. As excitement builds in all worlds let us remain uplifted. Let us remember why this is taking place. Let us send out PEACE to your planet and to every living thing that is involved in this CHANGE. WE ARE LOVE. YOU ARE LOVE THERE IS ONLY LOVE. KNOW OF IT. BE IT. Dear souls, who co join in THIS GREAT DIVINE PLAN, that shall allow freedom of self once again ... We say to you ... WELCOME TO THE RETURN OF YOURSELVES. YOU SHALL KNOW OF THIS BY KNOWING YOURSELF. In all humility, and I know I speak for many … THANK YOU!." I wonder why she hasn't bothered asking White Cloud if the date of the FDL is accurate.....How do you feel about blossom? Do you think she is out for the money even at the possible expense of her original White Cloud following? stay tunned! lots more to come! really

[tkdyo]

Blossom...well, she LOOKS like the kind of person who might scam, but at the same time you are right about the messing up her following. If this doesnt happen, I guess we get proof it was a scam right?

[euphoria_]

sounds interesting and if something is to go down 10/14...all we can do is wait.

[The Prodigy]

I really hope this is real.. the world needs something like this to happen

[Eonnn]

I've seen a couple of videos of people 'channeling' and it really is quite bizarre like they are not themselves. It may be that they are good at acting or really are channeling someone/something. One thing's for sure... if aliens show up on Oct. 14th it not only means we're not alone, but also that channeling is real. And if that's the case, then many of the channelings about everyone ascending to a higher dimension soon could indeed be true. But my guess is that she's pulling it all out of her ass just like every other person who claims to be a psychic or channeler.

[Rain_frog]

I used to believe the Pleidian thing, but I've heard so much regurgitated garbage about those and "lyrans, greys, draconians, etc" that I think it's all a bunch of B/S. Just do a search on google and you'll find the same crap from highly uncredible sources. I have read mounting evidence that the Pleidian idea was a big hoax. One thing that bothers me about the uncredible "alien" stories is that they always portray "the good aliens" as beautiful humans. The "bad" aliens are always reptilian or animal-like. Sounds like racism, (err, "speciesism") doesn't it?. I read somebody's channeling or astral projection session and they said the aliens they deemed "friendly" were mammal-like. Again, how will we ever be able to meet extraterrestrials if we have racist / egotistical attitudes? I'm not saying aliens cannot look like us-- convergent evolutionary forces will likely make an extraterrestrial somewhat anthropomorphic, but I have never seen an alien personally, and one has to keep an open mind until we see one. I'd be more willing to believe the "alien channeling" if Edgar Cayce talked to ETs.

[juroara]

beautiful humans? let's be honest here rain frog. from what I've seen, its not just any old human - ITS BLONDES. I happen to be hispanic with a head of thick curly hair. I haven't seen any pictures of aliens having curly hair!! Whats up with that? anyways, sorry for not posting sooner. read so much my brain fried. so what's this pleidian business that rain frog is talking about, for those who don't know? there are two big alien things you should know about in the alien chanelling business. and thats Ashtar Command and the Pleidians. Ashtar Command http://ashtar.galactic2.net/ Ashtar Command. So much to say about it, it would be its own thread. Ashtar Command involves : channelings, astral projections, christ consciousness, and physical encounters. Ashtar in my opinion is like the Jesus to the alien-new-agers. There is not an alien-new-ager that has not heard of Ashtar, and generally they all feel positive towards Ashtar. Ashtar command is HUGE. And I swear its tripled since I first heard of it years ago. Just google it if you don't like that website, THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHERS. Ashtar Command personally confuses me. The first time I read about them they were saying Jesus was on a space ship. The next time, Jesus is not on a spaceship and Christ is a universal consciousness. So which was it? I can't find the original website I discovered years ago, but on it were hundreds of experiences from followers of Ashtar Command. Which revealed a lot about it at the time. The most interesting thing at that time, which was maybe four years ago - the UFO's were not physical. They are in the astral plane. The beaming-up onto the ships was not physical, but also astral. Your body remained on earth. This is a theme that has continued into other areas outside of Ashtar Command. Even, in Dr. Greer's books! Alien-New-Agers feel positive towards Ashtar. With that said, it is not true that all new agers feel positive towards Ashtar. There is another group of new agers, who are also Christ Consciousness followers - who feel Ashtar is actually a less than trustworthy source. The reason why other new agers, and christians alike don't like Ashtar Command, is because of the strong messages concerning 'judgement day'. Some where Ashtar Command begins to talk about the majority of mankind being unsavable as earth goes through a new transition. And only those who aboard the space ships will be saved, or at least, spared this violent transition on earth. Is Ashtar actually a demon? http://www.new-visions.com/articles/ashtar.html The Pleidian Message http://www.alliesofhumanity.org/book1.php Now the Pleidian message in the online pdf the allies of humanity, confuses me even more! The Pleidians have been associated with Ashtar Command. But in this message, the allies of humanity - they WARN AGAINST any alien promising salvation. That would include, Ashtar Command. The plot thickens!! Here is another interesting read. "First Contact" According to another channeler, Mike Quinsey, 2004. "‘First Contact’ will start when a special series of major announcements are made by the world’s major governments, which will be almost simultaneous. They will announce that E.T’s are here and benevolent, and will acknowledge the part the Galactic Federation has played, in assuring the new reality manifests according to the divine plan. Once the series of formal announcements and the global delivery of your abundance are complete, we will begin our own proceedings. These will include a series of daytime flyovers. We will accompany them with an announcement of who we are and what we are doing." http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/t...st_contact.htm A lot of people have sneered at the constant "good aliens are pretty blondes" "bad aliens are reptiles". Spiritual seekers everywhere scream dualism when they hear these things. If either of these alien groups are real, there must be not so nice Pleidians, and benevolent Reptilians. Actually, the Federation of Light gave Blossom an interesting messsage recently. They said in a nutshell that while its true the Reptiles are 'hostile', that is a horrible generalization. And if they were to generalize humanity, it would be also be 'hostile', 'insane' or some other. And well, I kinda agree. As we speak entire nations are starving, and our nations have done little to nothing about it. Are we not the same human race? thats it for now when it comes to channeling! doesn't it make you cringe?

[juroara]

Channellings not your thing? Well, there is another side to this alien-new-age picture, and that's astral projection. Where as in channelling a person sits down and seems to have a conversation with an alter ego, the astral side is dreamy spiritual adventure. A lot of people snicker at the channellers, well, let's face it, a lot of them make a living off of this stuff. But the reality is, there are a lot of people astral projecting. And only a tiny fraction make a penny off of it, and thats if you can teach it. And there is nothing flaky there, because many will claim the books DID TEACH THEM to astral project. Therefore the product was 'honest' and they got what they paid for. The best astral website that I know of is of course, as many on this forum knows, http://www.astraldynamics.com/. You don't have to travel too far in the forum before people start talking about their own personal encounters with alien beings in the astral plane. But there is a star of sorts, who seems to set himself as a guru at astral projecting and other mystical feets, and he's selling books. That man is Dr. Steven Greer! Dr. Steven Greer, founder of the Disclosure Project is an absolute mystic, or at least he sets himself up to be as one. At least I hope the man is being honest! In his books he believes in 1. universal consciousness 2. using higher states of consciousness to communicate with aliens 3. the reality of the astral realm He believes the astral realm is key in understanding alien technology. The speed of light is simply too slow for inter steller travel!! It would take, thousand and thousands and thousands of light years to get anywhere!! It's just not realistic, based on what we know about biological life. And based on the idea nothing is faster than the speed of light. What could be faster? Greer believes, the speed of thought. And that is in the astral. There are many threads here about the astral. The important thing to understand is, the astral is NOT considered a spiritual realm. It is considered a PHYSICAL realm. It is however, a physical layer where the physical properties are more fluid, and less dense. And of course, not visible to the human eye. But none the less, still physical. The universe has onion layers and all that jazz. Like Ashtar Command, Greer holds that there UFO's traveling across vast distances, and they do those by materializing and dematerializing between this onion layer, and the astral layer. So, both groups agree - space ships are in the astral realm. And both groups agree, a UFO joy ride can either be in your physical body, or purely astral body. Take your pick. But Greer is not a channeller, nor seems to care about channelers. I was curious and emailed the Disclosure crew about the october 14th date, . They say, Greer does not like dates, but still be ready for first contact ANY DAY. haha! In Greer's book, he writes a funny story about a friend who astral projected for the first time. He was so excited he flew and flew and flew, and CRASH. Smashes into a UFO and rocks it. And then feels mentally flabbergasted and embarrassed when the ETs mentally tell him "MY GOD! WATCH WHERE YOU ARE GOING!!!" so while this channeling business may, alienate us. I guess if we really wanted, we can try astraling and seeing for ourself? that is, if you can believe its more than just a lucid dream? this is Greer's book. you have to buy it to read the whole thing, but chapters 1 and 2 are available online. Greer gets personal, in a way he doesn't in his Disclosure lecture of 2001. In his first two chapters he talks about his near death experience, where he experiences a life altering cosmic consciousness. Which places him on a spiritual path in his youth. He then discusses, how through an expanded consciousness he was able to communicate with ET's. Where both himself and the ET can drop the ego and become one mind. This, he claims, has been the basis of his work for many years, long before he started the Disclosure Project. http://www.disclosureproject.org/hiddentruth.htm the book was more than I can chew!! very mixed emotions over it. but still a fun read. ****************************** now Greer talks about a lot of crazy things in his book. about the cabal wanting us to a have a fear based relationship with aliens, to ultimately a hoax alien attack. he also talks about mind control experiments. they didn't end with the Nazi's he argues. and have only gotten more frightening. now I'm the optimist. I'd rather such for truth in unlikely places, and listen to the teacher even if he be an ant. I don't see the point in constantly looking for negativity and tossing the baby out with the bath water. but I did say I'd post an alternative to this channellings business! now of course, the normal alternative is these people are crazy. but one odd thing is, so many people are claiming to be channels and a lot of them are saying the same stuff. what, crazy people can't be original anymore? the Christian alternative is, of course, they are communicating with something. but that something is demonic. and this alternative is, they are victims to an experiment http://www.philipcoppens.com/ufo_ciapipers.html and technology that makes them hear voices http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...-talk-yourself okay, its bed time!

[Original Poster]

Okay I'll repost my findings here. First I'll just say of all the evil aliens making contact, I have preferred Adamu and therefore will be using him as an example. So here's the video of Adamu's first message sent through Zingdad (in two parts): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnHdR2GZ3a8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb029q4LJ_0 Blossom Lovechild or Rainbowmilk or whatever channeled the character Ashtar, and while he wasn't as polite, he does have a history in the United States of communicating with channelers about the "illuminati" being run by an alien faction of shape shifters that have tricked the rulers of the world into thinking they are gods. In fact, one night in England he tapped into the TVs and sent a message. Ask Jeff if you want to check out the information about it editted into the end of the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv-vS4oBJAg To be fair, some of the channelers were not quite so enthusiastic about the fact that so many different ones were coming up with the same message. This is my favorite video by the way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwfiEXQQLMQ All well and good on my end so far, then Adamu sends his second two part message, and suddenly everything starts sounding eerily like all those cults that drank the punch. You get the sales pitch, and then the bait and switch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkILXA6mR3w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD5pfz5DePA THE WORST PART IS, IF IT REALLY IS ALL TRUE, THEN THAT JUST MEANS IT'S THE FUCKING ANTICHRIST! (taken from http://www.georgeka vassilas. org/) "Messages From The Heart - July 2008 I George Kavassilas feel the need to clear the air in regards to statements I made in my DVD of the lecture at the Eternal Spirit in July 2004. The Spiritual Hierarchy and Galactic Council of Light of which I am a part of is not the same as a group calling themselves the galactic federation of light. You see the negative forces duplicate the true Hierarchy of Creation in order to deceive planetary populations. The more closely they can align themselves with the true Hierarchy the harder it is for planetary populations to discern, and therefore the easier it is for them to deceive. This imposter group are currently imposing themselves on this planet by stealth and is fooling most of the ruling elite and governing bodies. They are using a particular faction within their empire, who is proficient at technology, genetic manipulation and mind control. The mid to higher levels of the empire will soon appear, rid the planet of this other faction and look like the good guys. They are the ones soon to be our so called saviours at a time of crisis, which is in the process of being orchestrated by them and will come into fruition over the next fear years, and yes they have their own version of the spiritual hierarchy including a Christ entity and all other major religious figures. I know this because at times I too have been manipulated by them and my comments about boarding the ships at a time of crisis and the being lord sananda was one such time. There will be a promise of ascension, their version of ascension, and relative to the despair that they wish to manifest globally, many will take to it like a young child takes to candy. Also since my lecture in 2004 I've had the honour and the privilege on several occasions to have travelled into the 5th Dimension on this planet, into a realm known as Avalon or Shambhala. The real Avalon and Shambhala, not ET bases which are attempting to replicate these realms as well. The reason I say it's real is because I've been to both and one is based on technology and the other is pure clean Universal Consciousness. It is the realm of the Divine Mother, our Earth Mother Sophia or Gaea, who is not incarnated out here in the matrix but has manifested a 5th Dimensional body in Avalon/Shambhala out of reach from the negative forces. I felt honoured to be in the presence of the most graceful energy in this Universe. I attended meetings there but unfortunately I only remember a small fraction of the experience. I do remember a little of the environment and what it feels like to be in the 5th Dimension. Having such a point of reference is priceless and incredibly important with the coming deception and that is why I feel the need to share these understandings. The connection one has in the false realm is on a mental level and communication occurs using a form of telepathy that stimulates and strokes the central nervous system giving the unsuspecting or in-experienced person the feeling of a benevolent presence and euphoria. This is what it feels like to be connected to an artificial intelligence posing as benevolence. In contrast when a Being is connected to the pure clean Universal Consciousness all communication takes place beyond the mind. It becomes a resonance that emanates from the central core of your Being and permeates throughout the body. When Love and Knowledge are exchanged the complete understanding is conveyed including feelings and the ongoing ripple effect to all life as far as your Being wishes or requires to comprehend, and it all happens in an instant. The following is most of what I remember about our path towards ascension. The Divine Mother will open at the appropriate time dimensional doorways all over her planetary body allowing those with `eyes to see and ears to hear' to walk through into sanctuary. These doorways or openings are symbolized by the Vesica-Piscis, there are a multitude of pictures through the ages showing Christ standing in or walking throughout the Vesica-Piscis doorway and is also the Fish of Christianity. This symbol represents the Womb of The Mother, The Almond or in Greek the Amigdala, The Magdalene who of course was the incarnation of the Divine Mother Earth herself and twin flame of Ihsous (Jesus). It saddens me to think how our beloved Mary has been so tragically and systematically ridiculed, judged, persecuted and condemned over the past two millennia. You see any energy, consciousness or Beings that wish to control this reality must first control the consciousness and energy that is this planet and reality. This planet being an aspect of our Divine Mother is why the feminine energies have been oppressed over the last few thousand years. Control the feminine, control the planet. It is also imperative to understand that this abuse, oppression and control is only occurring because Mother Earth is allowing it. You see, she has courageously offered herself and sacrificed herself and well being in order to facilitate our ascension. A Mothers' Unconditional Love. I adamantly assure you that in order to ascend one must first re-align and rebalance with the Divine Feminine. It is important to remember that we are ascending not separate from, but with our Divine Mother Earth. Yes the planet is ascending and she is carrying us all in her womb and is giving birth to a whole new version of Humanity. We are evolving from Homo-sapiens into Hu-Man. In Greek the word Homos means dirt/earth and sapieo means rotten. If we as a species continue to function under the auspice of our lower animal consciousness of the Homo-Sapien then we will turn this Earth rotten. This is obviously now occurring but so is our metamorphosis into, and birthing of the true Hu-Man. Hu meaning God and Man meaning Nous or Universal Mind, A Godly Being of Godly Mind. Once we return to the sanctuary of the 5th Dimension, we will be safe from the cleansing process of the lower planetary dimensions and will also be re-united with our brothers and sisters in the light, including loved ones who have passed over and are eagerly awaiting to greet us and provide assistance for our re-adjustment to the 5th Dimension. After inner peace is re-established and all celebrations have subsided preparations will then begin for our ascension into the Golden Age. Love, Liberation & Fortitude George Kavassilas" Well, that's my 2 cents on this shit. Love, Light, and Orgies, Omnius Deus

[LucidFlanders]

ROFL at the 1977 thing, some smartypants decided to hijack them. If it was an alien they would have sent a world wide feed of this on every single thing. It's limited because it was 1977 and the amount of people who could do this was very limited.

[Original Poster]

The way television was done back then, it would have been impossible to crack into that many different networks at once.

[juroara]

I agree with the above post. that's why it still kinda trips me out when ever I hear about that broadcasting! unless its the power elite playing joke? anyways! the buzz is still going around lately the aliens have been giving blossom 'clues'. like the first one was alabama. the second was, snow cone. then rainbow. I think all of these clues are kinda silly. but it has caused a stir. because, a 'snow cone' effect in the sky took place in florida only a few days after she was given the clue 'snow cone'. or at least thats what, people are saying. I was a little, eh when I heard that because I actually knew about the snow cone effect over the florida sky before reading about the snow cone clue in blossoms website. but she doesn't seem to have dates up for her channellings, or I'm just blind. *and I am pretty damn blind* to confirm whether or not her snow cone clue came before or after. now there are others saying the rainbow clue has also happened. I'm not sure what this is all about! still, even atheists admit they are optimistic this is true! and what I still find most fascinating is that most people, DO want it to happen. . . ******************** ps. has anyone here read the first two chapters, which are free, for hidden truth forbidden knowledge on the disclosure website? I was curious what were everyone's thoughts because it involves a near death experience and OBEs. ******************** pssspsspss..all this talk has had me having dreams where aliens come into my bedroom asking me if I want to be an ambassador. every time I scream and shout no! toss and turn and hide under my sheets until they go away. . .

[juroara]

people who are angry over this event are crying "heavens gate". I didn't know what heaven's gate was. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven's_Gate_(cult) or that they are still continuing today "Only those who are in Heaven's Gate, which is by no means a religion but an experience, may actually choose to stay or to leave this world. You may wonder as to why we say this. This is because humans, outside of Heaven's Gate have no souls. Outsiders are merely empty vessels and are slaves to the Luciferian Kingdom (Earth)." http://www.freewebs.com/xfody/ This is UFO cult at its worse. This is extremely disturbing!! anyways, I don't feel the fault of this cult lies with aliens. . .

[LucidFlanders]

still, even atheists admit they are optimistic this is true! and what I still find most fascinating is that most people, DO want it to happen. What does atheists have to do about anything of this situation? unless by athiests you mean the term "skeptic". If i could talk to them i would ask if the aliens can give me boat loads of money so i can retire early from work. A guy at my work knows about this thing, he's a believer but he's also caucious about believing in it. He told me as i went to get my hair cut (which everyone was drooling over ) that this thing is huge as i told him it'sa all over the net. He's a cool guy, also gets the ladies all the time.

[LucidFlanders]

people who are angry over this event are crying "heavens gate". I didn't know what heaven's gate was. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven's_Gate_(cult) or that they are still continuing today "Only those who are in Heaven's Gate, which is by no means a religion but an experience, may actually choose to stay or to leave this world. You may wonder as to why we say this. This is because humans, outside of Heaven's Gate have no souls. Outsiders are merely empty vessels and are slaves to the Luciferian Kingdom (Earth)." http://www.freewebs.com/xfody/ This is UFO cult at its worse. This is extremely disturbing!! anyways, I don't feel the fault of this cult lies with aliens. . . ROFL what a load of pooh pooh!!!! edit- Another load of crap is http://www.truthism.com They also mention 3.3 billion of the worlds population is a "organic portal" aka a person without a soul, an empty vessel. God is not real, and a alien reptillion type of race made us.

[LucidFlanders]

The way television was done back then, it would have been impossible to crack into that many different networks at once. I'm sure there were people who could hoax that. Like some in the video have said, why just the UK and not the world? it would make alot more sense, yes? Then again people have said "why pick blossom and not the president or someone high up there who can spread the word" and the answer is simple...they have their own system of picking people, should be pretty obvious.

[juroara]

What does atheists have to do about anything of this situation? unless by athiests you mean the term "skeptic". If i could talk to them i would ask if the aliens can give me boat loads of money so i can retire early from work. A guy at my work knows about this thing, he's a believer but he's also caucious about believing in it. He told me as i went to get my hair cut (which everyone was drooling over ) that this thing is huge as i told him it'sa all over the net. He's a cool guy, also gets the ladies all the time. what I meant was no group is more skeptical to channeling than atheists. that was all I meant. scientific logic would say this person is a skitzo right? on the other hand christianity isn't necessarily skeptical to channeling. though they might think she is channeling the devil!! either way, she's gotten hate mail from both groups! *poor thing*

[LucidFlanders]

That would be the term i guess (not a doctor but voices in your head sound like the stages of a skitzo), and what way would that be taken out? the voices? um, the only thing that we tend to call "bad", which would be drugs. Controlled drugs but drugs none the less which we all take even if it's coffee, coke a cola, or tylenol. World revolves around...drugs! yet it's taboo...where the hell is the logic? Why poor thing? she decided to make this public although if she didn't she said she would quit what she was doing, but she made it public and anything that gets this attention she needs to know there is a 100% chance of tons of skeptics and criticizm(sp). I'm not going to judge her, this could be all real for all we know, and i don't know her personally. I HOPE this is real, i'm tired of living life the way we are, we are going noplace fast. Who the hell needs weapons of mass destruction when we can find cures for cancer which is a MASSIVLY much bigger need then some stone age losers in suits throwing rocks(bombs) at people. Seriously...mankind is fucked up and we need a change FAST before the world decides to start a nuclear world war and byebye us.

[juroara]

Blossom Goodchild apologizes, and seems to no longer trust the federation of light http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=rm4v8ylAxTc unlike others who have made excuses for the FDL, such as saying "oh..we didn't believe enough, blah blah.". She makes no excuses. I'm happy for her in an odd way. She makes a bold statement saying 'we need to fix earth ourselves', against so many alien new agers who expect aliens to do the work for them. I'm happy because, while this must be very hard for blossom *who I believe was being honest*, it means she can finally walk a real spiritual path, that does not involve placing false hopes on such alien beings. who have an ugly history with suicidal cults. if the FDL is real. if the FDL ever does appear in our skies one day, despite how cool that would be, I would not trust them if my life depended on it

[LucidFlanders]

Out with blossom, in with a guy who's predicted this longer then blossom named st Germain. November 11th, but he gave no year so it could be anywhere between 2008-2012. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...13034&hl=en-CA 11:11 like the thread that's on this forum. But know this, he said they were coming Oct 14th too, so take what he says with a grain of salt. Oh right and there was a UFO sighting that i just found out about but it looks more like a blimp. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg0R7....blogspot.com/