Thread: Beginners to psychic powers, this one’s for you!

Originally Posted by WakataDreamer

I so wish I could meet you in person...

woah I sound like an Internet creeper.

Nevermind, then.

But seriously,when you make that guide get me a copy. I'm always looking to improve.

@Paido: Yes, that's where I am (although I have certainly had a few, rare instances of much better results than what you described). Keep at it! Be diligent! It needs more time. If you want to let it go, okay, but if you want to see major results, keep at it.

[insert lame motivational statement here]

I'm also interested in a copy of that book. From what I read about macro pk from the wiki, it seems you need to be near sleep(theta and alpha waves I think) to be able to see some good results(7Hz). Do you guys meditate? You could try meditating and acheiving this state and then try some macro pk, maybe it'll help, but, that's a guess on my part

It's theta. I'm heard of alpha being used but theta is your best bet. Oh and try around 5hz thats a mid theta. Yay! Random fact man!

And sure you can both check it out don't know when it will be done. I'll probably link a pdf to my sig and post a thread one of these days.

Originally Posted by pojmaster17q

And somehow you're not making millions of dollars off of this?

How one can make millions of dollars by moving a chandelier?

As a side note, moving objects by will is not really that useful in the modern society .

Originally Posted by Phantasos

How one can make millions of dollars by moving a chandelier?

As a side note, moving objects by will is not really that useful in the modern society .

http://www.crissangel.com/

And it's all FAKE.

Trust me, people like magic. I didn't specifically mean the chandelier, but if someone can do things like that, yeah.

Originally Posted by Phantasos

How one can make millions of dollars by moving a chandelier?

As a side note, moving objects by will is not really that useful in the modern society .

No, but it's damn cool.

Originally Posted by Native Dreamer

No, but it's damn cool.

QFT AND you could use it yourself. Example, say you wanna get that pen from the table, you can levitate it and move it to you I think meditating is the way to go to get better macro pk results

Originally Posted by pojmaster17q

http://www.crissangel.com/

And it's all FAKE.

Trust me, people like magic. I didn't specifically mean the chandelier, but if someone can do things like that, yeah.

well, if you tell me to trust you then I have little choice. I just hope that you know what you're talking about, otherwise you'd just be leading me down the same path that every other person who's ever claimed to have a firm grip on reality seems to take. Are you sure you know what's real?

Originally Posted by sleepingdog

well, if you tell me to trust you then I have little choice. I just hope that you know what you're talking about, otherwise you'd just be leading me down the same path that every other person who's ever claimed to have a firm grip on reality seems to take. Are you sure you know what's real?

Green.

green. check. thanks. is it always and has it always been green? does it still look green when you break it up? can you make it blue? are all the greens from the same green?

dude. im so happy we're still doing colors, cause once we get into the brain stuff I get really lost.

lol, what does this have to do with the topic?

Originally Posted by BigFan

QFT AND you could use it yourself. Example, say you wanna get that pen from the table, you can levitate it and move it to you I think meditating is the way to go to get better macro pk results

Yes it is my friend. Experiment with different types blank mind(Classic meditation) or Focal(Focusing on visual object). You might find being focused helps more than being relaxed and clear minded. Also trancing is more effective than meditation for pk for some so try both .

-You friendly neighborhood random fact guy-

Originally Posted by BigFan

lol, what does this have to do with the topic?

you weren't following? recap...

poj; look at this it's fake (true), which supports my doubts of similar things, like this post.

me; don't know what's real. do you?

poj; yes, here.

you can now join the reality lesson. As for your topic, Poj has expressed his doubts and also volunteered to explore it further. Personally, I was just curious to see how much he doubted the strange reality of it. I hope I've made you happy BF, forever.

Originally Posted by Native Dreamer

Yes it is my friend. Experiment with different types blank mind(Classic meditation) or Focal(Focusing on visual object). You might find being focused helps more than being relaxed and clear minded. Also trancing is more effective than meditation for pk for some so try both .

-You friendly neighborhood random fact guy-

oh, I see. Trancing you say? hmm, never heard of it

Originally Posted by sleepingdog

you weren't following? recap...

poj; look at this it's fake (true), which supports my doubts of similar things, like this post.

me; don't know what's real. do you?

poj; yes, here.

you can now join the reality lesson. As for your topic, Poj has expressed his doubts and also volunteered to explore it further. Personally, I was just curious to see how much he doubted the strange reality of it. I hope I've made you happy BF, forever.

Kinda following the conversation you guys were having. Personally, I'm fine if he was gonna dive or not. All I was telling him was that if he really wanted to prove that it doesn't exist, its better if he joined in on the act and after trying it, got no results to show which would have made his point that much stronger

Originally Posted by pojmaster17q

Trust me, people like magic. I didn't specifically mean the chandelier, but if someone can do things like that, yeah.

Look, how much people make money off lucid dreaming which is actually a cornerstone for most occult practices and until recently (on historical scale) was considered as a domain of mystics by many or non-existent by others? Not really much, and barely we can say they make "millions". And lucid dreaming is much more useful skill both for occult or secular practices while moving object by will (especially if we consider that claimed successes are rather modest and one have to invest a lot of time and efforts) is not particularly useful (though the exercise itself maybe useful for developing concentration skill even if objects will refuse to move ).

So, if second LaBerge suddenly will prove telekinesis to exist by scientifical means, I doubt a lot of people will be able to make a lot of money off this.

Originally Posted by Phantasos

Look, how much people make money off lucid dreaming which is actually a cornerstone for most occult practices and until recently (on historical scale) was considered as a domain of mystics by many or non-existent by others? Not really much, and barely we can say they make "millions". And lucid dreaming is much more useful skill both for occult or secular practices while moving object by will (especially if we consider that claimed successes are rather modest and one have to invest a lot of time and efforts) is not particularly useful (though the exercise itself maybe useful for developing concentration skill even if objects will refuse to move ).

So, if second LaBerge suddenly will prove telekinesis to exist by scientifical means, I doubt a lot of people will be able to make a lot of money off this.

But lucid dreaming is something that only the person doing it can experience, and it takes time and dedication, and doesn't always pay off (if you do it wrong). Someone can go pay $20 to see a show where some guy does clever tricks with telekinesis for an hour and be satisfied with that.

Think about how much money people pay "psychics" on tv, people who "talk to ghosts", "fortune tellers", etc.
I remember a show I saw once, it was on the animal planet, there was some woman who supposedly talked to pets, mentally, and the pets told her things that only their owners knew, or some shit like that. Well, if she can get a living doing that, I'm sure someone with actual skills would be able to.

Yeah I agree with poj. I know if I could pull off some of this pie-in-the-sky stuff with relative consistency, I would totally go public. I don't care if people would look at me weirdly. I'm the type of person that if I discover something totally badass, I don't like to keep it myself - otherwise, I don't see the point in doing it and keeping it secret. When I die, it would be like it never actually happened. I like sharing it, spreading it around like so much margarine.

I saw that show you talked about Poj - I think that it's BS in some form, runny or crusty and old, unsure. BS all the same. Dog Whisperer is good and actually useful, but completely unrelated to the topic at hand.

I'm sure just as many would believe in flipping burgers with a psychic spatula as those who wouldn't. Look at Criss Angel or David Blaine - obviously, they're fake, there is no "magic" or "levitation" but so many people still actually believe in them. In this country, you can be famous and never know what real talent is, excluding trickery and smoke/mirror usage. It's always better to be for reals though.

Originally Posted by pojmaster17q

But lucid dreaming is something that only the person doing it can experience, and it takes time and dedication, and doesn't always pay off (if you do it wrong). Someone can go pay $20 to see a show where some guy does clever tricks with telekinesis for an hour and be satisfied with that.

Think about how much money people pay "psychics" on tv, people who "talk to ghosts", "fortune tellers", etc.
I remember a show I saw once, it was on the animal planet, there was some woman who supposedly talked to pets, mentally, and the pets told her things that only their owners knew, or some shit like that. Well, if she can get a living doing that, I'm sure someone with actual skills would be able to.

I don't watch TV, so, I can't comment on the psychic people on tv

Originally Posted by Advantageous Noodle

Yeah I agree with poj. I know if I could pull off some of this pie-in-the-sky stuff with relative consistency, I would totally go public. I don't care if people would look at me weirdly. I'm the type of person that if I discover something totally badass, I don't like to keep it myself - otherwise, I don't see the point in doing it and keeping it secret. When I die, it would be like it never actually happened. I like sharing it, spreading it around like so much margarine.

I saw that show you talked about Poj - I think that it's BS in some form, runny or crusty and old, unsure. BS all the same. Dog Whisperer is good and actually useful, but completely unrelated to the topic at hand.

I'm sure just as many would believe in flipping burgers with a psychic spatula as those who wouldn't. Look at Criss Angel or David Blaine - obviously, they're fake, there is no "magic" or "levitation" but so many people still actually believe in them. In this country, you can be famous and never know what real talent is, excluding trickery and smoke/mirror usage. It's always better to be for reals though.

You might want to show off, but, doesn't mean everyone would want to do that,so, you're making a big generalization here. That still doesn't mean that I wouldn't like to do that to silence the skeptic BUT the point is regardless if you can do macro pk or not, there will ALWAYS be skeptic and you'll LIKELY be placed with the whole magician crowd, there is no escaping that regardless how much effort you put in to prove it to others Yes, its better to be for real, but, you seem to be dismissing the idea of macro pk just because no one has proven it 100% even though there are some who have claimed to do it in history. Curious question, have you tried to put in any sort of effort to learn some psi and then move on to macro pk along with meditation to access the theta state since it seems macro pk requires that? If the answer is no, then I suggest you give it a try. You won't lose anything except 15-30min/daily, so, consider trying it instead of let's say watch some 30min show on TV

If I get any good results, I'll bump this thread and post my results here

You do that man. If you have questions feel free to ask me.