Thread: WILD method same as OBE method.. is it a LD or OBE?

Far as I know, you get into SP using WILD and then you either a) ride out SP while still conscious to have an LD b) Get out of your body and have an OBE by rolling out or using a rope to get out. Whether they are the same or not, I can't tell since I've only had one LD and no OBEs before

This is exactly what I thought. I have gone into SP plenty of times. I even visualized myself "rolling" out of my body. All I got was some darkness then a very realistic Lucid dream. Not an Obe but lucid dream. Everything was in place and looked like my house. Even outside looked the same. I could do dream things though. Hopefully some Obe'ers will shed some light

Thing is, I didn't get any HI. Normally my room flashes and I can manipulate it.

[QUOTE=hellohihello;1067415]This is exactly what I thought. I have gone into SP plenty of times. I even visualized myself "rolling" out of my body. All I got was some darkness then a very realistic Lucid dream. Not an Obe but lucid dream. Everything was in place and looked like my house. Even outside looked the same. I could do dream things though. Hopefully some Obe'ers will shed some light
[QUOTE]
Interesting, very interesting. From what I heard in an OBE, you can't control your DCs or do similar tasks as in an LD

Yup that's why I shared The time of day was right, everything looked real but the dream characters were not.

So the difference between LDs and OBEs (or at least a way to tell) is that in OBEs, dream control doesn't work?

Originally Posted by Hidden

So the difference between LDs and OBEs (or at least a way to tell) is that in OBEs, dream control doesn't work?

Well, from my understanding, this is accurate. However, it's not just that you are in a lucid dream and cannot control what happens. The reason that you cannot exert any control on the world around you is because you aren't in a dream world at all, but walking around the "waking world" in your astral body. OBE-ers that find this inaccurate, feel free to correct me, as I have never had an OBE. This is ust my understanding of the concept.


And @ OP, that really is what the debate between believers and non-believers in OBE's is. Whether or not OBE's are just glorified LD's or not.

Originally Posted by mrweiner

Well, from my understanding, this is accurate. However, it's not just that you are in a lucid dream and cannot control what happens. The reason that you cannot exert any control on the world around you is because you aren't in a dream world at all, but walking around the "waking world" in your astral body. OBE-ers that find this inaccurate, feel free to correct me, as I have never had an OBE. This is ust my understanding of the concept.

"I can't control anything. This must be an OBE!"
"No, you just suck at dream control."

Yeah, that makes sense. And astral projection is something completely different? Like you're in some sort of parallel dimension? Or is it just another word for OBE?