Thread: Lucid, but not in control. | False awakenings | Subconscious dream influence and more

So I haven't posted here in a while. Lucid dreaming have been going pretty well for me. I have a DILD about two times a week and I have some basic dream control. Now what I'm addressing in this thread isn't lack of dream control, or false awakenings in general.

I'm basically talking about a lucid dream where you'll feel combated by the dream itself.
It's hard to explain what I mean specifically, but I have had some trouble with this and had an extreme case of it last night.

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I've just become aware of the dream. It was pretty early in the dream, which I am quite happy about. Normally I might have a lucid near the end of the dream, only noticing because the dream is becoming increasingly unstable.

Now I right away test my dream control. I like to control elements in dreams, probably inspired by some anime but whatever. I'm in quite normal room. I conjure water by gathering some spit in my mouth and converting it to water. Now I generate more at will and let my mouth serve as a water cannon. I steer the water with my hands, try to let it hang in the air unaffected by gravity. Everything works.

My dream control seems quite solid at this point. Then I awake. Only to do a reality check and discover it was false. Oh well. I'm still quite confident so I run off, jumping through the window and flying off. I notice the world around me isn't rendering at all (I think this might be a computer language-only term). The I suddenly have another false awakening. Well, this false awakening was crude and not very convincing.

Now I just calm down and start observing my dream-room. I touch things, look around, and take in the realism of my environment. Now I walk downstairs and notice some friends in the living room. I ignore them and walk outside, only to have another false awakening. Actually the false awakenings are getting so unrealistic, they can't even be called that anymore. I just get out of bed, just to spawn back in bed again.

Now at this point, I start to worry. Suddenly I hear scratching noises from outside my door. Now I'm not easily scared. I am however quite paranoid (ironically?). I hear voices, and these voices are telling me they have me under their control. They tell me that I am not allowed to leave the house and that I will remain their hostage forever. I gotta admit I was getting a bit uneasy here, but I figure I should be able to break through this and go back to having another fun lucid dream. I open the door, finding nothing. Walk back to the living room, my friends are still there.

I test my dream control, and I still am able to manipulate and do some pretty neat tricks. ( I spawn an alien-like creature in a quite vulgar way. Alien as in from the movies with the same title). I dash off, flying outside, only to respawn back in my bed.
The voice are yelling at me again, I'm getting angry and slightly frightened. I try to wake myself by jolting forward from a laying position, but can't find the strength to do it. I try desperately to wake myself in this way to no success.

The idea is that you do the same motion that you would do, when getting up in the morning. The dream soon fades into nothingness, and I'm back to sleep.

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This scenario is something that I can encounter quite often to some degree. The times when I have trouble with dream control it is normally because of having trouble leaving an area. Either because of 'invisible walls', lack of strength to even move, or by 'respawning' like in this dream.

My conclusions from this was a few;
- I was having a lucid in the middle of the night, I'm assuming. The dream was incredibly stable, vivid, and I could not wake myself.

-I felt like the dream was combating me. I've read false awakenings occur because the subconscious/body/dream or whatever notices that you are aware, which shouldn't happen naturally. It seemed like the dream tried to force a 'story' to me. Like when you dream, you follow a kind of plot. I didn't include the details, but these voices were indicating something like that. Plus, the dream characters would interact with me right away and it seemed obvious that I was supposed to do something all along.

-I was always paranoid that something bad would happen. The dream made me more and more uneasy, and while I can even enjoy nightmares because of the thrill, I was afraid that even imagining bad stuff could make it happen.
This didn't seem to be the case.


So the point of this thread is generally to try and get some discussion going on the matter in general, and the points above. As well as to seek advice what to do if you are restricted by the dream. And perhaps share some experiences!