Must Read! Complete Dream Control Guide Ver. 1.0

**Metisomo** · 04-21-2007 01:53 AM

Okay, here it goes. I'm going to state everything I know about dream control in hopes of solving a lot of questions and/or problems.

I'm 19. I've been dreaming ever since I were born. At the age of about eleven years old I began having reoccuring dreams. I told my parents and they took me to a psychiatrist. They told me to keep a dream book. I kept one for three years until I no longer needed one since I were able to revisit the same dream night after night.

This may sound farfetched, but this is what I know. First, I'll answer a few questions.

1.) What do I do to begin controlling my dreams?
This is where a lot of people have trouble. My solution is this: You MUST not become so tired that you basically pass out. Instead, pick a specific time to go to bed and lie down at that time and right before you feel yourself falling asleep concentrate on one thing that you wish to dream about. This will give you a greater chance of dreaming about what you want.

2.) I find it hard to control my physical actions in my dreams.
I still sometimes have this problem and I go through an exercise in order to gain movement. Think of doing something impossible (i.e licking your elbow, swallowing yourself, etc.) and try to do it. Most likely you will be unsuccessful, but at least you will realize that you have some control over yourself. People may think that movement in dreams is just like in real life and I'm here to tell you that IT IS NOT!!! Movement in dreams is based upon two things:

-The level of awareness that you have in your dreams
-The idea behind your movement. Movement is based primary on the idea that you are in fact already moving by yourself.

3.) Who are these people in my dreams?
I try to avoid dreams with family members, friends, or generally anyone I know in real life. Why, you ask? Seeing someone you know in your dreams can be taken as always being a bad sign. When you see someone you know, your dreams become more of a flashback since your brain registers a memory to that specific person! Here's an example:

I have a friend named Nate. Him and I love to skateboard. So therefore, when I see him the first thing I think about is skating. Once I think about skating, Dream Nate ask me if I want to skate. I have no control since the answer will be inevitably yes. The dream changes. I go skateboarding with Nate. I wake up a short time later. Bad.

On the other hand, EVERYONE (believe it or not) you dream about you have seen in some way shape or fashion. Even if you have taken a split-second glance at a complete stranger on the street your brain will retain every detail of that person.

SIDE-NOTE:
"Allow me to explain how the brain works (I'm no brain scientist, but). The brain retains every single peice of data that goes into it. You NEVER FORGET ANYTHING. People may say they forgot but the information will always be there. The only thing stopping you is the ability to RECALL the information. Back to the topic..."

'Random' people (and when I say random I mean people that aren't readily identifiable) will appear in your dreams. If you can, always listen to what they have to say. There is always a task you have to complete in a dream. When you listen to people one of two things can happen:

-they will either produce a memory similar to a dejavu type of thing, OR
-they will tell you about another person which will lead to you meeting this person sooner or later in your dreams.

4.) What other information have you collected?
Well... I've noticed quite a few things. The time of day in your dreams is directed connected to your mood before you go to sleep. Here's what I've noted down:

Mood:
Happiness (accomplished something in real life): Morning- Day; Sunny; Bright, vibrant colors.
Anger (mad at spouse, something bad happened at work): Noon- everything begins to darken, not a lot of people around
Depression (break-ups, lost of something valuable): Night- dark, gloomy, experience fear and danger

5.) What else you know?
I've also noticed how your surroundings in real life affect your dream world. If you sleep near a window, the light from the window will wake you. Certain sounds like birds, cars, neighbors, dog barking, can wake you also.

Time is meaningless in dreams. There is such things as dream-time and real-time. Sorry, I can't give you a real comparison, but let's say you go to sleep at 10:00pm... You will most likely reach the climax of your dream at around 3:00am to 5:00am real-time. Your dream-time would make that feel as only 5-15 minutes.

I've also found a nifty way of waking yourself. I used to always jerk myself awake, but found that to be unsettling once you awake so I've developed a technique called the 'Freddy Krueger' technique (I know... I suck at names.)

Here how it works: (Very simple)
In a lot of Nightmare on Elm Street films you would see people awaken from horrid nightmares by closing their eyes as soon as Freddy were going to stab them and/or decapitate them and throw them into a feiry inferno (not specifically in that order). So, I've tried it and found that it really works. With your eyes closed in your dreams, your brain cannot process images into your head therefore it loses track of what's supposed to be going on thus leading to you wakening.

Well, that's all the time I have here. I think I'm going to go get some sleep now and maybe I'll see you in my dreams to answer your questions.

**Gameshark** · 04-21-2007 03:58 AM

I'll try this

**samids** · 04-24-2007 12:04 AM

Thanks

Some very interesting stuff

Ev · 04-24-2007 05:24 AM

An interesting idea about bright/dark dreams. I never tried to connect it to the mood of the day before.

As for a task in a dream - I must disagree. My dreams are random and my DCs tend to bullshit. If you believe in a task you have to accomplish you are pretty much tricking yourself into doing some random stuff every dream.

**Infraredkelp** · 04-24-2007 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by Metisomo

I've been dreaming ever since I were born.[/b]

No way!!!

**MoD** · 04-24-2007 06:23 PM

This is where a lot of people have trouble. My solution is this: You MUST not become so tired that you basically pass out. Instead, pick a specific time to go to bed and lie down at that time and right before you feel yourself falling asleep concentrate on one thing that you wish to dream about. This will give you a greater chance of dreaming about what you want.[/b]

LOL! We have a better way! LUCID DREAMING! HELLOOOOOOO??? This forum is written all over with Lucid Dreaming. With LD you dont have to make scanarios of what you want to do but you do them in your dream conciously! LOL!

Time is meaningless in dreams. There is such things as dream-time and real-time. Sorry, I can't give you a real comparison, but let's say you go to sleep at 10:00pm... You will most likely reach the climax of your dream at around 3:00am to 5:00am real-time. Your dream-time would make that feel as only 5-15 minutes.[/b]

Bullshit! This isnt true! IT IS PROVEN (<- read it again) that 1 second in real life equals one second in dream life. And your 'climax' happens every ninety minutes when you reach REM sleep. In the morning REM is longer and a dream can be up to an hour long. You are talking out of your a$$ m8! :/

There is always a task you have to complete in a dream. When you listen to people one of two things can happen:[/b]

Why for the sake of loving fu** would I want to complete a task when I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT? Man you are faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar behind on the whole Dream Control, LD thing. Read the forums. Youll catch up!

**Jess** · 04-24-2007 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by MoD

Why for the sake of loving fu** would I want to complete a task when I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT? Man you are faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar behind on the whole Dream Control, LD thing. Read the forums. Youll catch up![/b]

Because it gives your mind a reason to become lucid in the first place if you have a pre-planned goal in mind you want to accomplish.

Lucid task of the month?

**MoD** · 04-24-2007 06:46 PM

He didnt mean it in such a way. Read his post once more. Youll see.

Ev · 04-24-2007 07:32 PM

Plz dont start a flame war about this...

**Gez** · 04-24-2007 07:40 PM

Jeez MoD lighten up.
right i better start reading this.

**Lucidbulbs** · 04-24-2007 08:34 PM

It sounds good, but I don't think that my dreams 'time' [Morning, Noon or night] have anything to d owith my mood or else, if I go by your idea, I'm almost always happy before I go to sleep and that is definately not true. But since I've never tried to pay attention to it before, I will now and see if it's true. And as for doing a task set by a DC, I'd do it if it sounds interesting but otherwise I'd rather be doing something else that's much more fun.

I don't think that this idea would apply to dreams that last a few days long now would it? Or else I'd be considered one moody person ^^

**delta-9-thc** · 04-26-2007 03:42 AM

does that mean you can dream about what you did while you were blacked out?

**FluBB** · 04-26-2007 06:05 AM

hmm.. interesting.. i really need to work on my recall... its horrible, and i havent really tried that hard...

**Spamtek** · 04-26-2007 04:32 PM

I have a few contentions. For me, while morning makes me extremely happy, full daytime dampens my mood quite a bit. Dusk can be very pleasant, and night can be calm and relaxing or oppressive and alienating. I believe you're making the mistake of assuming that your symbols are relevant to everyone's perceptions, when this is simply not true. The smell of lemons might be invigorating to most, but to others it depresses them beyond measure (not me - someone I knew), so it must follow that the time of day is relevant to individual moods, not universal ones.

I can vouch for the Freddy Kreuger method. The only lucid dreams I ever had, 6-12 of them when I was elementary-school age, I always ended by closing my eyes and opening them again to see my room's ceiling. I always did this to escape nightmares.

**rootbeer** · 05-02-2007 02:03 AM

That is really interesting that if you close your eyes in your dream you will wake up...if I am ever lucid enough, I might try this...thanks for sharing all your info!

**Lunalight** · 05-02-2007 02:53 AM

A) There is not always a task, at least from the beginning. Sometimes you end up in a weird place and you're like, "Why am I here?" Then your mind creates a task for you, so you don't realize that the entire world around you makes absolutely no sense.

B) Dream time is very close to real time. In EWOLD, LaBerge explains it in detail.

C) Yeah, read the tutorials and everything before posting.

Sorry if I sound annoyed. It's because I am. I know you meant to help.

**Fale55** · 05-02-2007 02:54 AM

He was just saying how things work for him to see if it helps us... But anyways welcome to the forums!

**Abra** · 05-02-2007 02:54 AM

Oddly enough, the time of day in my dreams often stems from my internal clock. With increasing precision, my dreams have been night, dawn, day, in that order.

I agree with you on the motion thing. I find I never remember myself walking/running unless I'm lucid. Even then, I prefer floating to my destination.

About the people thing... There's no way to disprove it. At the same time, there is no way to prove that our brains cannot manufacture original characters.

I must agree with you on not wanting to dream about everyday people. Whenever those people appear, there is a logical situation that pairs with them, making it harder (for me) to become lucid. On the flipside, when I see those people in odd situations, I tend to at least question the situation (on the fringe of lucidity).

Overall, a nice little thread you've got here!

**Metisomo** · 05-02-2007 03:58 AM

Good or bad, I thank you all for your responses. It helps me identify my faults. For the time being, I leave you with one of my favorite qoutes:
"Many problems cannot be solved with the same level of thinking that created them."

**dwingrider** · 05-06-2007 07:09 PM

nice post
great post for newbies

**Raylin** · 05-07-2007 12:57 PM

I'm not convinced about the light level/mood thing. From my experience, the level of light in a dream is proportional to the level of light of your waking surroundings. Dreams I have in the middle of the night tend to be very dim, whereas dreams in the morning (gotta love those lie-ins) tend to be brighter.

pj · 05-07-2007 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Metisomo

Good or bad, I thank you all for your responses. It helps me identify my faults. For the time being, I leave you with one of my favorite qoutes:
"Many problems cannot be solved with the same level of thinking that created them."

Great start - and great quote.

Search for BillyBob_101's guide to getting the most out of the lucid experience. You might want to incorporate some of his experiences and ways of approaching things.

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