Thread: Time dilation machine

Hmm. I better try this the next time I become lucid. Which is going to be tonight

Doing an observer's work outside of time I often train my mind to build a dbz hyperbolic time chamber like star treks holodeck by containing any infectious reality within my 3rd eye.

What?

Take a look into Project Rinri. It deals with Projecting one's consciousness through mastering level's of time corresponding to the tolzkin.

Oh, I see. Interesting. *reads up on it*

Originally Posted by ninja9578

That's not true, I've had dreams that lasted for days. I remember a guys saying on this forums that he had a dream on an island that lasted years. Dream time is the way that it is perceived, it's usually much much faster than real time and here is why:

Your dream only creates the important parts, and skips the boring, needless stuff. Every been at once place and then get in a car and be almost instantaneously somewhere else. It's because your dream doesn't want to make the car trip, imagine a dream where all you do is watch the trees go by out the window of the car. It creates the memory of the trip, but not the trip itself, so relative to you, the dream lasted the length of the car trip, plus however long you were in the other places.

If someone has the ability to build a machine like this than they probably are advanced enough to dilate time with their minds. I like the idea, I just think there are easier ways to do it (lucid pills for instance.)

Very well put. Explains a lot. But I still have some questions. Laberge discovered that eye movement is the same in a dream than in real life (he asked subjects to move their eyes in a certain pattern to make the observers understand he/she is lucid). Now, that leads to two questions:

You said that the boring parts were skipped. But are the fun parts limited to 'dream time' (1h) in themselves? (Same as asking) If we actually cut the boring scenes and make the dreamer live the fun parts alone, would it feel like 1h or more?

Does REM involes that the person lives through more dream time than real time? I mean, why would anyone move their eyes in such rapid random patterns in the dream world? (Either I didn't understand shit or REM isn't as 'Rapid' as I thought).

Someone pointed out the memory factor. Does living a year in the dream world erases (or puts into an ever deeper place into your brain.. w/e) some of your real world memories? Any thought on that? I think it's a real factor and the only downside I see yet :S BUT I don't mind it much since I already have terrible (selective) memory lol.

I thought of those to replace the machine if it doesn't work for you (no disrespect, great idea):
a- Have a lucid dream in a lucid dream
b- Try meditation (lotus position alone in the void and meditate about slowing time)
c- Time travel 5 minutes before 'now'
d- Travel at light-speed
e- Try to mentally calculate /0
f- Concentrate extremely hard on a small detail and make it your mind's only focus. Like a badtrip.
g- Stop a clock, an hourglass. Eat a time-slowing pill. More if needed.

And the portal idea is great. Here's what I thought could be done with this idea.
Some abbreviations first: Real World (R) -> Dream World (D) -> Portal World 1 (P1) -> Portal World 2 (P2) -> ...
Alright suppose you get into D. Now from there, you can see through the first portal into P1. You can see that everything in P1 is slowed down (like the earlier videos). As you step into P1, you catch up with the pace in P1 and you see that everything in D is accelerated. Once in P1, you can do the same with P2. And so forth.

Good luck!!

DISCLAIMER: BE SURE TO HAVE TWO WORKING ALARMS TO WAKE YOU UP EVENTUALLY. Or a friend

You might hate the experience in itself if it went wrong, but at least you didn't get into a coma or whatever. Please be sure to start slow.

I will mention that it has previously gone the other way for me; I spend what feels like a month in dreamtime overnight. Then wake up with only vague recall but still a moons worth of dreams, within minutes what happened yesterday might be clearer.

Am i like the only person who's life gets so stressful and busy and full of stuff that i forget about ld'ing? sucks to be me if you want to ld! ryhme

I have a cousin who is awesome at LDing (he has one literally every night) and he uses a special clock for this purpose. He described it as a 'heart clock'. He said it was shaped like a heart (to represent that it is a part of you I guess) and there were options on the back, like 'slow down time' or 'wake up now' etc. Sounded cool to me but I didn't lucid near that time so didn't get a chance to do that.

Can we have a picture? I cannot imagine it. lolz

[IMG]http://api.ning.com/files/7QGWDUE6ED4M5w9LTINobddWixDSClvtfwtb-NEPhONfWQaPBrbi9CA1KuCwP-6vQ*iUJTPLiZknjNAVVRd6MKCQbknUPkwo/DREAMMACHINE.png[/IMG]I desided to go in paint and make this

I may make a program like this.
I also added a STOP DREAM button so if you want to stop for what other reason you can get out of it. Ill try it

It isn't actually longer. I think what happeneds is that the dream is sped up but we don't notice it so a day could go by in a minute.

I belive "Cron-" means time.

Originally Posted by SourCherryBoy

I've had the same idea for a very long time. I've never gotten to test it, sadly. Be sure to post any progress!

And I think it could very well work. I don't know if that's the way to do it, but I do believe people who've said that they've spent days, weeks, months or even years in their dreams. I mean - there is no time, there is no past or future. There is only the present moment. Our thoughts, dreams and lives are timeless, time is only an illusion. No matter what scientists are saying, I don't care. Even highly educated scientists make mistakes and some things are simply undefinable. Some things can only be felt and apprehended, not measured.

Time cannot be measured.

So next time the clock tells me I'm late I can shrug and turn up when I like as it's all the same anyway.

When I celebrate my 20th birthday later this year can I not be relatively certain that the time has been accurately been measured by the earth orbiting the sun 20 times?




Perception of time however, can definitely be an illusion.

Estimation of time is also all about what markers you have to go by. If not a lot is happening then you may guess that you've been there for anywhere from half an hour to 4 hours. If you've been watching a movie all that time however, you can be much more accurate as you have a slightly more objective event to compare the time span to.

When asleep, to make time seem longer you need much higher brain activity. This means you can make more dream events happen whilst using up less REM time.
I'm sure it's completely plausible as your brain works at a higher rate when asleep anyway.


I'll give this a shot if possible.