Thread: tantalizing sex tease???

Originally Posted by Vex Kitten

It's progress by the sound of it though the ending wasn't all that pretty.
What do you think you would have done if you were lucid? Maybe you should plan for that if the occasion comes up so you won't be left standing there wondering wtf and possibly loose lucidity.

And... I must ask...

Why did you start cleaning a shot gun after the girl mentioned moving in with you?

Scary and kinky.

Ha ha good point. I did not feel hostile wit the gun.

Another good point. To be ready. I hate when that happens. That is exactly it too. funny stuff.
I like to interact with dream characters. I have no interest in any physical activity, but I think I will drill my subconscious for some answers.

I don't know...if a hot girl I was ready to get with turned to a man I would conjure a gold-plate .44 Desert Eagle (I play too much Call of Duty 4) and waste that son-of-b***h-homo-demon who just ruined my dream..

But if you are about to have lucid-sex and you don't want to whats the problem? Your dream, your doctrine..you could do it, you could decapitate her, run away...numerous things

Those are things I think of before dreaming...having sex with some girl, shooting something, pissing myself...I think its more worry than anything, maybe if you do it then that will be it...if not, then conjure a porn-star or a sexcologist and consult them and will them into giving you what you want to hear

Thats just my 2 cents, I haven't had a full-lucid dream yet...just one paralysis and a semi-lucid where I kissed some redheaded girl then ran down the block and got shot...

As for quoting people in your dreams I have done it before and they think of rhymes I could of sworn I heard long ago...creepy what your sub-concious remembers

I think some things Moonbeam said are some good points, like the one about for some reason in some situations it might be easier for girls, and the one about letting the DC doing all the work. That way has worked best for me in the past, and it helps me stay in the dream. I also have the problem of having to get myself to do other dream-things.

I think you may, even if don't know it, have a lack of confidence thats whispering, "PHH! NO NO BUDDY, NOT EEEVEN IN YOUR DREAMS!" so think to yourself now and again, " I AM THE MOTHER FUCKING SHIT, MAN!!!"

If thats not it then think before you go to sleep, "I'm going to bone that chick good!"

(if your wondering why I spurt out all kinds of psyche stuff it's because I like studying psychology)

I havent tried sex/romance yet in my dreams, but the same happened with me except with violence. I couldn't seem to bring myself to be violent.(probably because of my moral values and martial arts training)

But on topic, I think it is morally ok to have sex in dreams, it's your own private world. Maybe try making her come onto you?

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A recent dream.

The Finer things in life.

I had a great Lucid last night. It has seemed to effect my mood of today.
I have relentlessly tried and tried over and over again to drill my subconscious, interact intellectually with my DCs and I have gotten a lot out of that approach. A lot!!
At least a year now I have gained very little from lucid dreaming (that I am consciously aware of)

Screw it. I let go because I can. Most lucid dreamers would think ...uh yaa dumb ass, that's what you do in lucid dreams. I just have tried to seek different boundaries and experiences while maintaining a certain moral standard.

My vent - my lucid

I was standing on a basket ball court that I used to play on in high school. Finding it odd I did a reality check and whaalaaa -I'm lucid.

I yelled bring it on! Two teams ran in from opposite sides of the court. It was my game. I can play them like a puppet, as Michael Jordan would say. Executing any move I have desired. What a thrill.
After the game I ran with my team mates, with a few stints trying to maintain my lucidity.
I was in an Ivy League Lunch meeting with all the Staff members. Steak - shrimp, I can't remember all. I remember it seeming like,spare no expense. I walked by a table of some upper class folk and grabbed the steak from off his plate. DC - "What the hell do you think your doing young man?"
I think I am doing what the fuck I want. I ate as I walked. Thinking lucidly, I decided to check out the Library. I have always had a fascination with old libraries. Libraries with some type of history to them. Oak, dark, almost intimidating?
In the door I saw a female I had worked with waaay back. At that time there was no sexual relationship. Though I wanted one. Though now I shall have. I beckoned her to come over to a door that looked like an elevator. Things were going to progress and they began to. As she acted a thought came to me thinking, I can't wait to tell Vex kitten and Moonbeam this!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHA!!! I felt my lucidity waining. I tried staring at my hands. No good! I woke up! I say

Funny but sad at the same time.
What ever. The rest of the dream was nice.

Almost, Howie! Sorry Vex and I spoiled it for you! Next time...

Do what makes you happy. LD sex is not as hard as most people think. They just don't practice enough.

This is actually a very interesting topic. I've had sex in LDs, as both male and female. It was weird doing it as a guy, though. How could I have known what it would feel like for a guy to "orgasm"? Anyway, I think the trick is not to "ask" or "beckon" DCs. Just think of what you'd like to do. Know that it's going to happpen. This seems to work fine for me.

One thing: it's much easier to do this without help of supplements. I usually can't hold my lucidity (or even stay asleep) long enough to do anything meaningful when using Galantamine/Choline combo.

By the way, how do you avoid turning DCs into zombies? Whenever I become lucid, all the DCs I interact with would just suddenly lose their "will". If I take their hand, they follow like a puppy. Any thoughts?

Originally Posted by Virismahla

By the way, how do you avoid turning DCs into zombies? Whenever I become lucid, all the DCs I interact with would just suddenly lose their "will". If I take their hand, they follow like a puppy. Any thoughts?

Thanks for your advice.
Our minds must put all of the info it has about a particular thing, man woman or any persona all together to manifest it in our dreams.
I've been many different characters before. Though I do not truly know what it is like to be Michael Douglas or a the opposite sex, I have a lot of my own perceptions about it.

With regards to the zombies. Do you talk to your DCs directly? Asking them questions.

Originally Posted by Howie

With regards to the zombies. Do you talk to your DCs directly? Asking them questions.

Yep. In my early LDs, I'd try and talk to DCs, ask them questions. I never once got a straight answer. Now I just tell them what to do and they do it. I wonder if it's because I once went on a murdering rampage?

Originally Posted by Virismahla

Yep. In my early LDs, I'd try and talk to DCs, ask them questions. I never once got a straight answer. Now I just tell them what to do and they do it. I wonder if it's because I once went on a murdering rampage?

Murdering rampage in your dream I hope?

What is your take on what a dream Character is? What they represent, what manifests them?

Originally Posted by Howie

Murdering rampage in your dream I hope?

Of course.

Originally Posted by Howie

What is your take on what a dream Character is? What they represent, what manifests them?

I'm not sure. They can't be all me, right? But I think I know what you mean. The thing is, when I'm not lucid, my DCs are quite "normal". But once I'm in control, the ones I interact with change. And they weren't like this before. Hey, is it a reflection of the fact that I have no control (which I crave) over anyone in my life, so I compensate by bossing my DCs around?

Originally Posted by Virismahla

I'm not sure. They can't be all me, right? But I think I know what you mean. The thing is, when I'm not lucid, my DCs are quite "normal". But once I'm in control, the ones I interact with change. And they weren't like this before. Hey, is it a reflection of the fact that I have no control (which I crave) over anyone in my life, so I compensate by bossing my DCs around?

Wow that is tough to call. It would only be speculative on my part.
I feel Dream characters are impart some manifestation of ourselves, thoughts, fears etc. At the same time I can't imagine that they don't often play the role of characters that we know in one form or another.
Boy that really clears it up for you.

I have had so many phases throughout my LD experiences I don't really know. At one point when I was fixated on other dream content, the DCs just kind of disappeared.
Times when I truly wanted to address them, I have had some very interesting input and conversations with them -- myself?? uuh yaa.

Other times, as you see in this thread when I have almost demanded or wanted something from a DC I have been denied.

So I do think our mind state, or waking conscious status has a direct effect on our dream character's actions.

Virismahla -Confidence plays a BIG role in our Lucid dreams!
If you feel you do not have control over anyone in your life, then be confident that you CAN have control of your craving, your control of the people (DCs) in your dream. You have the control, you can learn things very effectively that will help you gain some control over your waking life situation. As if it is practice. It is YOUR dream and you can decide, with confidence.

I do know that much from experience. As seen from above, I lack the confidence that my desired situation will not play out, as a result it hasn't.
It will change as I gain confidence that it will!

Jeez. That would really piss me off, if everytime I wanted to do it in a dream (especially a LUCID DREAM), and it would be out of reach....oh that would get me.

Well, all I can tell you is that (as you know) now that you believe that things will be out of reach, they are going to continue to be out of reach. So while you strive to figure out what the hell kind of trick your sub-conscious is playing on you, you should work at believing that this whole thing is a fluke, and you can easily control your DC's.

LOL! I was just being a kook. I'm really not a control freak.

In my earlier LD episodes, I had very little control over DCs. When I asked them questions, they either looked at me as if I was nuts or simply gave me very strange answers. It was frustrating, yet interesting. An example of this would be in another thread, which describes how a lady DC led me on a wild goose chase when I asked her whether she could lead me to my dream guide. My DCs were completely uncooperative. After a dozen of such disappointing LDs, I simply gave up and didn't become lucid again for months. During this time I reflected on the fact that "since this is my LD, I should be able to do as I please". I told myself over and over that I'm in control. And I guess it paid off because now I have total control over my DCs. They're just not as interesting anymore. One time I actually changed a DC's physical appearance at will. I changed his eye color from brown to shiny sky-blue. It was cool, though.

But this is a very good point. It can't be healthy for me to keep bossing myself around (tsk tsk!) and I sure won't learn anything. Next time instead of imposing my will on them, I would just talk to them. But if they go back to their usual tricky ways, I swear I will make them pay!

Oh gosh, there I go again.

@virismahla

If you read the dream level guid your LD's would Be at 9 or GOD.
There's a 10, it's where you are omnipotent ONLY WHEN AND IN WHAT WAYS you want to be.

This may not be an appropriate thread, but I'd like to share my most recent LD experience (a few hours ago). I went to bed around 12:30 and set my alarm at 5:30. After I woke up, I took a combination of the following:

8mg Galantamine
750mg Choline (approx.)
900mg Alpha-GPC
400mg Mucuna (10% L-Dopa)
400mg EGCG (approx. 8mg Caffeine)
200mg Theanine
500mg ALCAR + 300mg ALA
Melatonin + Valerian Root Extract (trouble falling back asleep)

After some time trying to fall back asleep (around 45 minutes), I found I was suddenly outside my bedroom. It took me a few seconds to realize I was dreaming. I tried to go outside by passing through the metal-wired window. I could, but it was difficult as there was some resistance. Once outside I remained floated near the window because I could feel something coming after me. That was when I realized I shouldn't have taken the Mucuna*. It was the Dopamine that was giving me a hard time with my surrounding, as though I was being challenged. I flew away the moment that "thing" come rushing out the window at me.

*I have tried taking Mucuna alone at bedtime and found myself always in a predicament, sometimes bordering on nightmare. I'm used to monster dreams (zombies, ghosts, demons), so it didn't cause me to wake up screaming, but in my normal dreams I fight monsters and win. In Dopamine dreams, I'm always being cut into pieces or eaten alive. What the hell, right?

I found myself in a crowded, brightly lit alley with rows of restaurants and cafes. I remembered then (actually I thought of this while replying to this thread the last time how it'd be interesting to travel in LD world using a mirror) and conjured up a mirror. It was the round type with handle and looked medieval. I lifted it and saw my reflection. I looked exactly the way I am. It was a small mirror, but it worked; I let myself get sucked through the portal... and found myself standing in a crowded street. I thought it could be fun to travel with a DC, so I grabbed the guy closest to me and I let us get sucked through the mirror. And the adventure went on for a while.

I still say, it's much better to have a LD without help of supplements. And don't use Mucuna. It would only give you more things to overcome and I guess some people might enjoy that, but you probably won't have that good a time.

I also wouldn't say I have 100% control in my LD, so the dream level wouldn't even be close to a 9. I don't have full control of my surroundings, just my DCs.

Omnipotent. Being conscious in a dream world is Omnipotence. From my personal experiences I do not feel you can put a level on lucidity. I once did and maybe you can. I think people have a need label everything, to gauge. Every single time that I have even thought about stages of lucidity, I have a new and differant experience. There are way to many variables to put into classifications. Just being MHO.

*I have tried taking Mucuna alone at bedtime and found myself always in a predicament, sometimes bordering on nightmare. I'm used to monster dreams (zombies, ghosts, demons), so it didn't cause me to wake up screaming, but in my normal dreams I fight monsters and win. In Dopamine dreams, I'm always being cut into pieces or eaten alive. What the hell, right?

These events being and sounding so close to my own experiences I rested on this a few days. Crossing my mind that you may have even been mocking me. Just call me
So needless to say, I can relate. However I used my lucidity to gain control of these nightmares. I used being ,eaten alive, torn apart burned and such as a sign into lucidity. Then those SOBs got a taste of a conscious me. I may have been as evil to some deranged dream characters as they were to me. An eye for an eye is probably not the best way to go about things. I suppose to my subconscious was trying to tell me somethings. I suppose I don't really care so much, as I do not have those horrific dreams anymore.
So back to Dopamine. How are you so clear on what effects what and how?
I am not doubting you, I am curious. I have only taken some vitamin B supplements.

How are you so clear on what effects what and how?
I am not doubting you, I am curious. I have only taken some vitamin B supplements.

I always read up on all supplements before I take them. I've taken each supplements seperately to test and I've taken Mucuna alone for a few nights in a row, not for the purpose of LD, just so that I can understand how it works more. Dopamine has a reputation for causing "action/adventure" dreams that can border on nightmares, but it will lend the dreamer the confidence to fight and win. I thought, "Oh, great. Zombie hacking dreams are cool anyway." In everyone of those nights, I'd be put against some monster but, even with the confidence it gave, I still lost because I'd be incapacitated in one way or another as well! In one of those dreams, I was actually tied up and a monster was eating its way through my arms and legs. In another, I was being strangled from behind by a psycho using a white handkerchief and I couldn't move to defend myself. Like, WTF? After that, I decided to use Mucuna strictly for LD experiments.

Originally Posted by Virismahla

This may not be an appropriate thread, but I'd like to share my most recent LD experience (a few hours ago). I went to bed around 12:30 and set my alarm at 5:30. After I woke up, I took a combination of the following:

8mg Galantamine
750mg Choline (approx.)
900mg Alpha-GPC
400mg Mucuna (10% L-Dopa)
400mg EGCG (approx. 8mg Caffeine)
200mg Theanine
500mg ALCAR + 300mg ALA
Melatonin + Valerian Root Extract (trouble falling back asleep)

Jesus man, your a freaking druggie.

Originally Posted by RockNRoller123

Jesus man, your a freaking druggie.

They were all natural supplements, but thanks...I guess.

wow. You learn something everyday.

That is quite a concoction of supplements. Do you take them all at some points or how do you know what to variations to take?

Although it creates obstacles, if your confidence is high, there are no obstacle in a sense. They may be there in your dream, but interpreted by a conscious dreamer can turn the entire dream scene to your favor.

Maybe I don't fully understand.