Thread: Expierenced LDers only! Very expierenced!

Originally Posted by elite0007

1. I am interested in the level of control an expierenced LDer has over his/her dream. Can you simply change the seen at will. Can you make anything happen at a moments notice.

Firstly its very possible to change the dream scene at will, possible obviously doesnt mean its easy. Much like riding a bike seems very hard at first but becomes very easy with practice, ive found myself learning to accomplish different feats while lucid. These abilities continue to improve in subsequent dreams so continuing to practice continues to improve your mental/dream skills.
At first flying was almost impossible for me, now i can fly easily. Same with walking through walls which at first was a struggle but now isnt so hard. Its strange but i find i reach a particular level of skill and i just know i can do it, i dont think about trying to fly anymore, i just fly knowing full well i can. And this seems to carry over into different skills, i definitely think theres a mind frame to adopt that allows much more control in dreams. As an example in one particular lucid i found myself in a overcrowded mall, I was passed playing with dream characters, i wanted more out of the dream, and so i made everyone dissapear, the entire mall was instantly empty. The easiest way to describe the mindframe is when you need to accomplish a task, just blank your mind and do whatever you need to do, just do it heh, no questions.

I havn't had as much practice changing dream scenes, im usually pretty content to explore the setting im in. Ive been able to do it a few times with portals, doors and covering my eyes and im getting better at it but i still have a way to go. I currently rarely end up where I expected when changing dream scene e.g. i want a bright vivid tropical island but instead get a rainy beach in scotland .
Dream scene changing is something im going to look into much more, i have a number of things ive always wanted to experience in an LD such as the huge battles in LOTR for example.

Originally Posted by elite0007

Additionally, are you able to enter lucidity at will anytime during sleep. I know that Stephen LaBerge could lucid dream at will 3 and 4 times a night.

I can't lucid dream at will, but i know what laberge means, at the point when you're just about to gain lucidity there seems to be a pre-lucid stage where we can choose to continue the dream as normal or accept lucidity, at least this is how it is for me (not everytime). If laberge gets this pre-lucid state each dream he could choose whether to lucid dream or stay in the dream unconciously every dream (im aware choosing is a form of lucid control too but im trying to avoid the philosophy behind it).

Originally Posted by elite0007

2. I now that when you first start out. LD requires diligent effort and can affect the quality of sleep due to dream journals. After one has become very proficient in LD, do you still wake up mulitiple times during the night or can you simply sleep all the way through. Also, does the fact that your consious keep you from having the same quality of sleep as when your not consious.

I always wake myself up at the end of a lucid in order to write it down. Im not sure on the quality of sleep question, sometimes i feel tired after waking up early or during the night to write dreams down, othertimes i feel much more awake.