Thread: Unescapable Darkness! Help!

Originally Posted by Ashen Wolf

Sometimes I get these dreams, Lucid or not, with darkness in them. It is not physical or has a form. That I cannot control or avoid while lucid. I've tried everything that I could think of to stop it. Also, in the dream. If I come into contacts with it, it hurts, like a lot. Kinda like being electrocuted and tickled at the same time. A horrible feeling that even while lucid I cannot get rid of or shake off. I also cannot wake up when I am being effected by it. My dream always end after what seems like an hour of feeling this pain. It feels like my head is spinning out of control like on a tire swing. Or my head is shaking right to left unnaturally rapid.

Does anyone know what this is? I have come to the conclusion it might be because of my Multi-personality disorder or part of me that is sealed up inside. Like anger. I tend to pent up my anger inside all the time.
Anyone know how to fix this? Please help

Seriously? It sounds like more of a medical problem then a dream problem. Maybe this is just something that happens to you when you're sleeping. I have no idea, but just a thought..

I'm sure people on here will know whats up

Hmm... I could say something for this, but it belongs to the beyond dreaming section...

Moved it

Originally Posted by SolvedSnake

Hmm... I could say something for this, but it belongs to the beyond dreaming section...

IMO it doesn't come across as Beyond Dreaming at all, say what you will with it in Dream Control.

I've deleted the "moved" thread in Beyond Dreaming, which is a duplicate thread of this. If you need something to be moved, please contact a moderator or administrator, you can see a list of the staff here: Staff List

Sorry about that -_-

Originally Posted by Ashen Wolf

Sorry about that -_-

No problem.

Beyond Dreaming is more for *paranormal* related topics. Unless you would like solely paranormal related replies then it's best if it stays here. If you would like it moved somewhere though (like Sleep and Health or Beyond Dreaming), please let me know.

Originally Posted by ClouD

No problem.

Beyond Dreaming is more for *paranormal* related topics. Unless you would like solely paranormal related replies then it's best if it stays here. If you would like it moved somewhere though (like Sleep and Health or Beyond Dreaming), please let me know.

Its fine here, all I really want to know is what these dreams mean I used to get them all the time. It still disturbs me, and I can always tell if the dream like this is going to happen as soon as I enter one.

mods might as well delete this since no one can help me

Originally Posted by Ashen Wolf

mods might as well delete this since no one can help me

That sounds like a challenge! I may not be able to solve your problem in in easy answer, but I'm sure I can help overcome it.

If you sleep on your side just want to eliminate this all together without confronting it in your dreams, then the best solution might be to only sleep on your right side.

That dream sounded pretty abstract, and those are spawned in the so called Right Brain (Left side of your body). Sleeping on your side gives better blood flow to one side of your brain, making it more dominant.

Sleeping on your right side and activating the left brain will ensure more logical, sequential dreams.

Originally Posted by Ashen Wolf

Sometimes I get these dreams, Lucid or not, with darkness in them. It is not physical or has a form. That I cannot control or avoid while lucid. I've tried everything that I could think of to stop it.

This could be a lot of things, and I'll need some clarification as to what kind of darkness it is.

I've come across a number of dreamers on the net who sometimes go blind when they become lucid. They can still hear and feel things, they just can't see.

Another common one is the void, where the dreamer is floating in a black void. There's nothing in it. Can occur anytime, but often in the transitional sleep phases, falling asleep or waking.

Or perhaps the edge of the world scenario, where the dreamer just comes across a huge black wall of nothing, with nothing on the other side.

There's also moving balls of shadows and stuff, so as you can see a lot of people have had to deal with all kinds of darkness. I'm sure there is some advice on this site somewhere that can help you.

Originally Posted by Ashen Wolf

Also, in the dream. If I come into contacts with it, it hurts, like a lot. Kinda like being electrocuted and tickled at the same time. A horrible feeling that even while lucid I cannot get rid of or shake off.

It feels like my head is spinning out of control like on a tire swing. Or my head is shaking right to left unnaturally rapid.

Again that part brings to mind several possibilities. Many dreamers report feeling vibrations. Mostly while falling aspeep, but occasionally in dreams as well. These vibrations can be very intense, uncomfortable and even painful. If that sounds like what you feel, you should do a search on this site for the word vibrations.

If what you're feeling is really hard to put into words, it might be like the dreams described in this thread: http://dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=29794
You may want to see if any of that sounds familiar, but to me I describe it like your soul being ripped out, or at least that how i imagine having your soul ripped out would feel.

Originally Posted by Ashen Wolf

I also cannot wake up when I am being effected by it. My dream always end after what seems like an hour of feeling this pain.

Not being able to wake up in a lucid is actually pretty rare, and many lucid dreamers have to fight to stay asleep. I've noticed from these boards that people have a natural tendency to wake up when they die in a dream, so I successfully used that the last time I couldn't wake myself up.

As for the pain, if it's just a normal literal electric pain, is that pain requires your attention to exist. That is to say you have to be focused on it. (That applies to everything in dreams really)

From what I've read in people's DJ and from my own experience, if you're distracted by something else, you won't feel pain, even if your skin is hanging off you in tatters. Usually because the dreamers are focused single mindedly on running or fighting for their lives.

The point is, if you're feeling pain in your "physical" body, remember you don't even need a body at all. Leaving your body or just becoming energy or spirit or whatever you want should be easy with that kind of painful motivation. And it sounds like you've got lots of time to try it.

Originally Posted by Ashen Wolf

Does anyone know what this is? I have come to the conclusion it might be because of my Multi-personality disorder or part of me that is sealed up inside. Like anger. I tend to pent up my anger inside all the time.
Anyone know how to fix this? Please help

I know all about anger, and I don't think that has much to do with it. Powerful emotions are a strong force in shaping your dream, but only the ones you are currently experiencing.

Do you experience any super intense emotions in the dream leading up or during that 'lectric darkness?

As for the split personality thing, yes and no. I happen to think dreaming is all about where and how you focus your attention, and also on what you focus your attention on. Problems arise in dreaming when that attention becomes unbalanced. Too much and things grow out of proportion and overwhelm, too little and things become unstable, confusing.

My completely unprofessional opinion is that most mental illness is caused by the same thing, and that every one experiences the whole range of mental illness in their dreams at some point in their lives.

Thank you for that input and thread ^^ It really helped.

But to clarify the darkness. Its not a void, it has physical mass actually. I can see everything around it just fine.
The pain does remind me of having my soul ripped out and time seems to have stopped. But I have tried to become not-human and it still hurts me. I can think while it affects me just fine. I can focus on something else, but I can still feel it. I literally have tried everything. I have been able to avoid it a few times though. The pain of the touch is focused in the navel area. It seem that arching my stomach on my back lessens the pain somewhat (I'm not sure if it is physical or in dream) I also found this experience of what a seizure would feel liken if they were conscience while it happened.

I will try sleeping on my side though I usually sleep on my back or my stomach

Ok then, did that electric pain feel either fiery or watery?

And could you explain what you mean when you say you avoided them, and how you did it?

Lol, I didn't mean that the thread belongs to beyond dreaming, but my answer belongs there xD.
Sorry about that, I could be more accurate.

It wasn't fiery or watery....more like someone jabbing there fingers and hands into your belly very hard.

I avoided it by being lucid and running away from it. But its very hard. It has like a pull to it, like gravity. Ive even tried to stop it by trying to remove gravity from the dream. Either my lucid skills suck, or there is something weird here.

Originally Posted by Ashen Wolf

I avoided it by being lucid and running away from it. But its very hard. It has like a pull to it, like gravity. Ive even tried to stop it by trying to remove gravity from the dream. Either my lucid skills suck, or there is something weird here.

That's good. Sounds like you're describing your very own attention fixated it, which is what links it to you. If you can manage to sever that connection, put the thing out of your mind completely, it will cease to exist.

The more you focus on that shadow, the more powerful it will become. Try ignoring it to death.

I shall try, thanks alot

I think this is a situation where becoming lucid would be a very good thing. I'm personally just getting into the "Lucid Dream" stuff, but I did read that Lucid Dreaming can help you fight off nightmares..

Although it sounds like more of a medical problem, then a paranormal problem.. but maybe that's just me!

The question now is, what is causing the dreams?

The above advice sounds solid. I wouldn't recommend running away. It does prove you can overcome it with will power alone, but surely addmiting you are running away from something gives that something prolonged existence, plus, you arn't really running anywere.

Personally (this might be a bad idea im not sure, feel free to call me a dick) I think I would try confronting it by encouraging it into some kind of interactive form and talking to it, just out of simple curiosity. I imagine this would take a lot of will power and controll though. Just my thoughts...I'm far from being a reliable source of advie on these topics.

I've experienced a number of DEILDS where I'm just in darkness.
I just have to figure a way around it.

Sometimes I imagine im wrapped in black sheets and have to fight my way out.
Sometimes I just have to "open my eyes" into a False Awakening.
Sometimes a little tv screen sized image appears and grows in size until im standing in it.

Really you just want to forget about the black and concentrate on your dream.
It should, one way or another, form around you.

Good luck.