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      Quote Originally Posted by Mylynes View Post
      This technique is not quite what you think it is. Telling yourself something is there can make it appear with visualization but with this form of control visualization isn't even needed and just telling yourself and trying to believe it's there will do you no good because this involves creating a real image by manipulating the system that allows you to see real objects. Its hard to explain this very well but its almost like training a muscle that you have not been accustomed to using. If I want to lift my arm no amount of visualization or trying to make yourself believe it is moving will move it for me. A signal has to be sent from the brain to actually move the muscles in my arm. This technique works the same way as sending the message to move my arm. You have to get your brain to create a real object. Real.. although it will only be real to you as nobody else will be able to see your creation.

      Right now my eyes see everything in this room including this screen. Lets say I don't like my monitors color. It's just a normal black flatscreen monitor. Now after using my technique my monitor actually looks pink. I could leave my room come back and it would still be pink. If someone else comes in and I ask what color it is they will say black but i'm looking at a pink monitor right now.

      To do that I manipulated my sight to see what I want to see. Someone just tapped me on the shoulder then hissed at me.. and now nobody is behind me. Nobody ever was behind me. I actually create all of these sensations and they look and feel REAL. I can summon a guy in my room and tell him to punch me in the face.. and it would really hurt if he did. This is not the dreaming world. This is what I have turned my own reality into. A mix of the two. After many years of playing around with this kind of stuff.
      That sounds like a visualization/ self induced hallucination, to me. You should look into other kinds of self induced hallucination, like the ones I mentioned. I think they might compliment your method well. At the least, they will give you a better first hand understanding of how your mind interacts with your senses.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Robot_Butler View Post
      That sounds like a visualization/ self induced hallucination, to me. You should look into other kinds of self induced hallucination, like the ones I mentioned. I think they might compliment your method well. At the least, they will give you a better first hand understanding of how your mind interacts with your senses.
      Okay I will look into it. I think self induced hallucination would be a very good way to describe what this technique is.
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      This sounds really interesting I'm going to give it a try.
      So Mylynes, how much control would you say you have in real life? Can you really make your monitor turn pink? What if you start moving around does it change colors? What about other black objects next to the monitor? I'm curious about the level of preciseness this can create

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      Quote Originally Posted by Syruplord View Post
      This sounds really interesting I'm going to give it a try.
      So Mylynes, how much control would you say you have in real life? Can you really make your monitor turn pink? What if you start moving around does it change colors? What about other black objects next to the monitor? I'm curious about the level of preciseness this can create
      I can do this just as easily awake as I can while dreaming even in a well lit room. By creating the images I want to see I can basically paste them over what I would normally be seeing. I can pick out bits and pieces to modify or I can pretty much cut myself off from the world around me by overriding all of my senses. Doing this I could go to a place of my own creation that would be similar to having a very vivid lucid dream.

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      what?
      wow...
      so, it's like you can have lucid dreams everytime you want..
      well that's good
      if that's true
      congratulations for the efforts

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mariano View Post
      what?
      wow...
      so, it's like you can have lucid dreams everytime you want..
      well that's good
      if that's true
      congratulations for the efforts
      It's similar to a lucid dream cept one of the biggest differences is that every part of your environment is created consciously.

      I'm interested in this.

      I'm going to give it a try, it sounds pretty awesome, but I will probbably take this slow.
      Anyhow, make sure to keep us updated if/when you make any more tutorials!
      I'll be posting the next tutorial as soon as someone ends up completing the first one.
      Last edited by Mylynes; 07-23-2009 at 06:42 PM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mylynes View Post
      I'll be posting the next tutorial as soon as someone ends up completing the first one.
      Ah ok, awesome.

      I have a question. Can this technique be applied as a way to consciously block pain?
      Also, what level of concentration is needed to perform this, or does it all depend on the amount of practice and familiarity with the technique? Does a busy envionment make it more difficult to perform or does it have very little impact?

      And another question, how long would you expect it to take to complete this tutorial, realising that it varies from person to person of course?

      Thanks in advance.

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      Interesting thread.
      Things are not as they seem

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      I'm interested in this.

      I'm going to give it a try, it sounds pretty awesome, but I will probbably take this slow.
      Anyhow, make sure to keep us updated if/when you make any more tutorials!

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      Man this is frustratingly hard. I can't even really see the canvas. I am having a problem with my eyes that I had when I tried the lucid dreaming audio series from hemisync, where my eyes start getting all jittery and moving around, and my eyelids slowly open. When I close my eyes, they don't feel shut unless I do it really hard and my eyes kind of roll back, and it's super dark and I see no patterns whatsoever, just black.

      Does this have to be done with eyes closed to start out? I was seeing a few white patterns when my eyes were partially opened, but I think it was my eyelashes, even though it was pitch black in my room. Man this is gonna be a long journey to the end
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      Quote Originally Posted by Syruplord View Post
      Man this is frustratingly hard. I can't even really see the canvas. I am having a problem with my eyes that I had when I tried the lucid dreaming audio series from hemisync, where my eyes start getting all jittery and moving around, and my eyelids slowly open. When I close my eyes, they don't feel shut unless I do it really hard and my eyes kind of roll back, and it's super dark and I see no patterns whatsoever, just black.

      Does this have to be done with eyes closed to start out? I was seeing a few white patterns when my eyes were partially opened, but I think it was my eyelashes, even though it was pitch black in my room. Man this is gonna be a long journey to the end
      There isn't really any need to close your eyes you just need to be in a very dark place and or wear a good blindfold. It's just a matter of removing the light that your eyes pick up. I would suggest for you to start off with a blindfold. If you are having difficulty with seeing the canvas try gently pressing your palms into your closed eyes. This pretty much makes you see different colors but the idea of the training is to produce more refined images with your mind.

      "it's super dark and I see no patterns whatsoever, just black."

      You are not the first person I have known to claim that they can only see blackness. That is the purposed of the the palm thing. It seems like most people do see these small particles but hey have been tuned out for a long time. You have to focus in and notice the small static-like particles before you can start manipulation through this technique.

      Good luck with your practice and feel free to ask any more questions.
      Last edited by Mylynes; 07-23-2009 at 06:34 PM.

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      lol, it's a proven fact that staring at the sun can leave an imprint on your retina, and those imprints can induce the cloured particles! thats what i tried once, and it got me moving in the right direction

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