Thread: What could this mean? Any help appreciated

Anyone?

It is a powerful dream and especially since it is recurring I understand why you are anxious to find some answers to this riddle. Of course it is difficult, or to be more precise impossible, for another person to know what it means, but to be able to close in to its meaning I think one have to get closer to the imagery of it.

On the one hand, as an internet guy on a dream interpretation forum, I'd be curious about your relationship with your ex; why is it her particularly that cries over you when you have no feelings for her? Why not you mother or you sister or your best friend? Do you meet her often, is she important to you in any way, are you irritated about her visiting your niece, and so on? If someone had reason to cry by you bed, is it in real life plausible that it would be her? What are your relationship, psychologically, really, if you know what I mean?

On the other hand, if I was the dreamer of this dream, one thing I might do, while not necessarily easy, would be to close my eyes, step into this room, and read the letter. What are the images that springs from this experience?

And whether or not that is successful, ask the Ex Girlfriend of the Dream, why are you crying? What is it that is upsetting? There might be an answer to that that you haven't thought about, and that I have no possibility to know anything about, but which might be obvious if you picture it.

I think that the answer to this riddle is within reach for you, but the dream being like it is, I think the way to close in to it, is for you to close into the dream, the room, the girl, the feelings, and the circumstances that surround it.

If you want more food for thought from me and the likes, please don't hesitate to elaborate on your personal situation, because I feel that the keys are to be found right there.

No i do have feelings for her, maybe not as strong as i did but i still do, i may have wrote that wrong in my initial post, and yeah i know what i see her maybe once a week and i wouldn't imagine it would be her specifically crying over me if it were a serious situation, but i would think she would if that makes sense? Unless of course she missed me, or something had happened, since as crazy as it sounds it entered my mind that maybe she walks straight past me because i am infact a ghost n she is crying as im dead? Though that wouldn't explain her calling for me, so maybe not, maybe sub consciously i had a problem with her seeing my niece in terms of jealousy that it wasn't ME she was coming to see, but my sister and her new baby instead, whom she wouldnt even know if it was for her relationship with me? She is also very important to me as she has helped me through things i hadnt never even faced before meeting her, we were great friends before we got together as a couple

I think since this is a repeated dream, it should be possible for you during the dream to realize that you are dreaming. Set your intensions to realize that this is a dream next time it happens. Also make sure to expect her to answer when you speak to her. Imagine her turning and looking at you directly. Alternatively, if that does not work, try to imagine your two selves merging in this dream or your conscious focus shifting to your other self, since that is the one she acknowledges, the one on the bed, and then try to speak to her. You could work on this in waking life: imagine / visualize your dream / daydream it, but this time change it so that you are on the bed and that's where your conscious awareness is, and imagine yourself waking up, and asking her the questions: Why are you crying? What is this about? I think becoming lucid in this dream is most likely to help your conscious mind get the answers that your subconscious knows, and the way I would approach it would be to ask her in the dream, not to try to read the letter, since reading in dreams is tricky, but talking is not. Remember to expect her to answer because if you do, she will. Even if you do not succeed in becoming lucid maybe by careful planning in waking life, you can shift the focus to your waking self and ask the questions in a non-lucid dream if you have rehearsed it that way ahead of time. Good luck!

Very interesting dream, and in my humble jungian interpretation you encountered the anima archetype... However I can't tell you what it means without more details. Basically anything and everything you can possibly remember about the dream; most importantly how you feel at every point in the dream.

How do you feel about her in the dream? In real life?

How do you feel about your sleeping doppelganger? How do you view yourself in real life?

Basically I feel you are trying to tell yourself something that you either repressed or forgot. Possibly you still have some latent affection for her. Perhaps you have not fully addressed (consciously) all the ways your relationship affected the way you view women (the anima is supposed to be comprised of all the experiences you have had with women) and you need to unveil that currently unconscious revelation so the anima can grow.

kevinhitch, have you had this dream again since you started this thread?

Yeah i have, a couple night ago i didn't have it so thought it was done with but than again last night i had the exact dream, In the dream i feel like i do in real life, i excited/happy when i hear her calling me and i guess that's how i would be feeling in real life when i speak to her at work ect what's a sleeping doppelganger? And tbh at this current time i don't feel very highly of myself, iv never been someone to big myself up massively but more so recently i have been lower than usual due to a few personal reasons and situations in life, I do have affection for her still as much as i try to convince myself i don't im just lying to myself in hope that i'll convince myself otherwise

My feelings in the dream change, when she is calling me im happy but than when i feel ignored i feel sad, that that becomes a state of confusion as to what is going on, why she can't see/hear me, why she's crying, what is this letter

By the sleeping doppelganger I mean the version of you sleeping in this dream?

With this new information the dream is beginning to make more sense to me. The invisibility of the waking you and the death like state of the physical you, of your body might be an illustration of depression. When a person becomes depressed he can shrink an almost disappear, becoming invisible to others; which in a way he almost wants to be. But on the other hand of course deep down one wants to be noticed, "I want you to notice when I'm not around" -- it is all a depressed person who is in love in one way or another really wants. He doesn't hope for marriage and to live happily ever after, just to be seen. To be seen or not to be seen is really to be or not to be. Therefore the invisibility is a horrible state, and in this dream it can be an illustration of the dreamers feeling of disappearing in real life, perhaps as a symptom of depression. If that is the case, it would be wise to establish a dialog with a trusted person in real life.

The disappearing dreamer in my speculation can come to life again by the attention of the loved one. That is the projection: "If she only... Then everything would be alright..." So she is the saviour. This is my association probably because when I was a teenager this was a condition I was in. But the dream says that she is not the help he is in need of. According to how I read the dream, appreciating that I might be way wrong, the dreamer is hoping for her to heal him, but cannot do that because she cannot see him. Of course things might change but the dream being repeated I'm not too optimistic. But there are other ways to heal, anyways.

We are all two, mind and body, and in my dark times I had a very strong sensation that they were separated. You don't feel that way when you are happy, or when you are "at one with yourself", only when you are unhappy and perhaps losing a little contact with yourself and your surroundings (how we perceive ourselves is a reflected on how we perceive the outer reality) do you feel that you are not really there - your body is, but you're really not. The doppelganger might illustrate this condition; on the one hand there's the body, on the other there's the mind, them being separated so to speak, there's no way for the mind to communicate through the body, and perhaps in real life the dreamer has problems with expressing his real thoughts and so forth.

The associations and speculations are not an answers to this riddle, but hopefully some food for thought; perhaps it can take you one step further towards a feeling of understanding. I myself still feel a little puzzled by the ending of the dream, for instance.

To a degree that makes perfect sense, in terms of how I'm feeling with her and with family as i only see her at work one day a week, though we get on great at work i do worry that once she finishes university and leaves the job which will happen eventually, that i will lose complete contact with her and become 'invisible' and non existent in her life. I also feel like i not 'here' at home since my sisters and her boyfriend who also live here have just had a baby and i do feel he has kind of 'replaced me' in the household since when my dad had originally moved out i become the man of the house, and don't feel iv ever had that position. I worry that in the dream, the sleeping me is in fact dead, and the me that is seeing everything is merely a spirit of myself and the letter is a goodbye, but than the fact she is calling me doesn't make that interpretation add up completely

How about this: her calling you and the letter are attempts to break through to communicate with you. What if she is not who she appears to be in the dream. She could represent a part of you, so then the dream would contain three representations of you: the part that appears dead, the part that is merely an invisible spirit of you former self, and the part that you have alienated and no longer accept as being part of yourself after your breakup with her which led to a breakup of yourself. The part that you don't accept as part of you, your feminine and emotional side is trying to get a message through to you any way it can through calling you, crying, letters. But you are too broken to get the message, so the message is getting repeated in reoccurring dreams trying to reach you, trying to reunite the different parts of you, trying to heal. But in order to heal you would need to accept the different parts of yourself, and rebuild a whole out of the parts: regain a unified sense of self which is not dead, not a spirit, and can no longer be tied to her because you are yourself and need to be able to be yourself even if she is not there.

How is that for an interpretation? As always, if it does not sound right to you, please disregard.

again does make sense to a degree, since we split i haven't felt like 'me' as if i relied on her to carry me, lift me up when im down, and i guess now i don't have that option to the degree i once did kind of makes me feel helpless and worried/scared, though i know im me and not her, i do feel helpless in many situations since she was always the person id turn to for help or advice. I guess its something EVERYONE goes through after a break up, well atleast most but i felt alone and that i had no one there for me anymore

Yes it does make it add up because it is your thought of her calling you, because you don't want her to leave you completely.
Her crying is that you are sad because you think you are dead to her. It is your thought of her that is sad or crying.
And I think you finally got everything correct, kevinhitch, interpreting the dream.

There is no letter to read, and no need.
It is just a prop for the symbol it means. She walks out of your life after, or so you fear.

I thought you are observing this situation, that's why there are two of you and she can't see the observer.
You are just the audience to this scene and message. But I like your view of being a Spirit or ghost.
In a sense she walks straight past you because you are in fact a ghost in the sense you think you have died to her.
So you see yourself as asleep to her. As if dead.

And her not seeing you is what happened physically or literally when she visited in real life.
And that alone is symbolic of the reality you fear.
Maybe that really got to your mind, and is repeating in your thoughts, making you dream this over and over.

It has really got to me yeah, in terms of simply increasing my fear of being 'dead to her', not in terms of her hating me, but just in terms of not being in/part of her life, it did cross my mind that like u say there is nothing to see/read in the letter hence that being the end of the dream, and that maybe it was in a way my wishful thinking that created the dream, her wanting to speak to/see me, calling out for me, crying over me.

Being dead to her is possibly my biggest fear in life even over powering the fear of my illness (MS) and how that may turn out in the end

I assume you know that there is a high risk of depression if you have MS. I would definitely talk to your doctor about these dreams and how you feel as well if I were you. Also talk with a family member or close friend. This is not something you should have to face alone, and strangers over the Internet can only help so much - people who know you would be able to help you more effectively.

Yeah, i have to see a clinical psychologist just to see how im coping ect think i see her again next week so will speak to her and get her opinion on things