Thread: Sara's journey to lucidity

Wow, just woke up from a very, very long 'night'. I've slept from 1pm till 1am with 1 hour awake in between (writing my first post in this DJ)
So in total I've slept 11 hours. Love being a student

I've read Billybob's tutorial this morning and I think he gives the clearest and most complete advise I've seen so far. So I'll try to live up to his schedule and advice for the coming weeks. One advice is to really keep a dream journal, so with this I'm on the right track.

To come back to last night's/morning/noon dreams, here they are in short.

After WBTB and trying to WILD (failed again, was focussed to much on the dream plus our cat was still running around on the bed ) After 30 mins I got to semi-SP (experiencing a sinking feeling, not feeling my body move when reathing (I WILD with my hands on my belly) but still heard all sounds.)
After another disturbance by the cat, I turned to my side and entered a long, exciting normal dream.
Unfortunately, I don't remember much of it, only that I was in France again, in the woods, where I had to do some work. (I've just returned from a 2 month working-holiday with horses in France).
Oh, as I write this down, more details come back... There was a market in the forest, really odd, because normally our closest market/shop was 20mins by car. Unfortunately I didn't go shopping, and when I returned, the market was gone.

2nd dream:
I was in France again, this time inside the building. A friend of mine had a very special room with all kind of gymnastic-training tools and she was playing a video from a famous horse-stuntman. He was doing backflips of the horse, jumping back on in a salto etc.
Sometimes in dreams I have the feeling of getting part of a video/movie I see on tv, this time I think the performed stunts were too difficult for me to do


Next thing I know, many people were going to visit our place. We all had to get our horses ready for the ride, but as usual (in daylife too) I was a bit slow. The others were already on their horses and left for a trailride. When I got outside, it was dark and my horse was changed into my car. We were going to have a car-rally in the forest! Well, if you see my car, he would be the last one to take for a rally :-)
My car:

Not the most agile one, haha

I knew we hadn't much of a chance, but still joined the club and off we went (my poor car ). The first mile we could keep up with the rest pretty well, but then we came to a corner where I had to brake. Acceleration is not a word in my car's dictionairy, so we lost sight of the car in front of me and were stuck in the middle of nowhere. I was lucky there were 2 or 3 cars behind me who couldn't pass on the narrow road. I talked with the drivers and we would go up the mountain to have a good overview and find the other cars.

When we were up the hill, it was day again, we were riding bikes instead of cars. And the people changed from my horseriding-friends, to my ex-flatmates. (I live in a student-housing with 7 other people in my corridor) There were 3 of them, but I only recognised 2 by name. Following part is really groce, I'm still questioning how my mind made this up... I'm a bit ashamed for this weird part in my dream, but since others are brave enough to tell We took a break and one of the guys was going to take a pee. I was standing near, so he wet MY pants. I was standing in a corner, so I couldn't run away. I started scolding at him, but instead of peeing the otherway, the other guy forced me down so the first one was peeing all over me. I was crying, yelling at them to let me go, but they didn't
Then the third person came to them, he had a large banana in his hand. I was afraid what they would do with it, so I grabbed it out of his hand and squeezed it saying 'now it's no longer usefull'. To my relief there was a shower in the corner. I took a nice, warm shower and felt really clean afterwards, ready to continue our cycling tour (wonder why I still wanted to be with those guys) but then this dream ended. Pfew.

Pfff, typing all this took quite some time. I guess I still missed a lot of dream parts since I spent a really long time in REM-sleep.

Oh, one more fragment:

At a certain moment, I was flying around my old city (where I lived from 0-18yrs). Around 10 meters high. I had a big bouncing ball, which I was bouncing on the street. I had a very good control over this ball (avoiding cars and cyclists etc.) and even in my dream, I had the feeling of a good control (though no lucidity )

And here I am again in the middle of the night. I'll only stay awake 20 mins today, since yesterdays full hour was not very successfull (apart from writing a lot in my journal).
I've read BillyBob's tutorial again, read the task of the month topic and I'm off for my next try on WILD, now full of new info from that tutorial.

Oh, no dream to recall from the first part of night
I set my alarm, woke up thinking 'ahhh, I'm just having a very nice dream, I'll hit the snooze button'. But then my dream ended and I woke up 10 mins later, without any memory of that nice dream

(yesterday, forgot to post this)
Another night with a crazy cat on the bed. Plus sleeping with 2 people in a narrow 1-person bed is not practical if you want to lay on your back without distubances

I did have some very nice dreams though.

Two situations I remember very clearly. First: I had spoken with a friend on msn before I went to bed. She was wondering about whether or not she would buy a certain horse, about which she feels not experienced enough to handle. In my dream, we were together training the horses and she was doing wonderfull with a new horse she just got. I'll tell her as soon as I speak to her again :-)
My own horse was behaving terrible in my dream. He was running around, fooling other people, walking over my laptop (which still worked after my horse run over it, how's that about electronics not working in dreams maybe they need to be broken before they work )

In another dream, my mother was keeping a mother and baby elephant in a closet. The baby couldn't stand up, because his front legs were too short and I had to perform a nerve-surgery on that baby to fix the problems :S
Instead, I opened the mother, pulled a some nerve (represented as electrical wire) out and at that time I felt a hand/claw closing around my other arm. A bit scary, because it was not the elephant who grabbed me, but 'something else' which I couldn't see. I let go of the elephants nerve, as my mother told me 'she was waking up from narcosis'. And we closed the door and went away.

Computer crashed while writing down last nights dreams

Last night I failed to wake up at 5am, just switched off my alarm in my sleep somehow. When I finally woke up, it was already 9am. I just had a great dream about the 'task of the month'. (posted this dream-part in that topic)

In another part of my dream, I was at highschool, watching a gymnastics class. I wasn't joining myself, because I had injured my knee. All the girls had to run a coopertest and I saw 1 girl really struggling because she also had some injury. The gymnastics teacher was a real bitch, so I went to her and started telling her she really should take better care of her students. That it was not fair to urge those girls to run faster when they were hurt. I was amazed of myself, because normally I would keep quiet, but it felt really good being 'older' in high school and telling this teacher the truth
After that, I was feeling so strong that I could climb up a climbing wall with my hands only. What a change in comparison to my older dreams. Usually I'm very weak in dreams, when I try to hit something/someone or throw a ball, it looks very stupid. Maybe reading about control and other peoples experiences in dreams, is altering my dreams too. Interesting!

I was still sleepy, so I decided I could try to go to/through SP again, without fear. Allthough now I know that sleep paralysis is not going to kill me, it's still frightening a bit. Last days I only got to some semi-SP state (feeling paralised, but still able to move if I tried to focus real hard and no falling/noise before that). Well, falling back asleep was not that easy. There were many disturbances (it was already light, the cat was running around again, my boyfriend started yelling at the cat for scratching its nails on the funiture...). I've started counting my breaths over and over again. Loosing track very often.
I was playing Mario in my mind (BF bought a nintendo DS last week ) and thought 'maybe I can use this to induce lucidity'. So I went higher and higher in the screen, only to find out I returned to the same place at the bottom. Then I though of the technique of going downstairs. So my Mario was going lower and lower, he didn't die as usual when he falls of the world . All very nice, but my Mario-playing in my head was still no dream.
Maybe I was focussing too much on my breathing, switching my focus between my day-dream and my counting, I don't know.

After 1 hour of counting breaths and playing Mario in my head, I still wasn't asleep and was fed up with it. I turned to my side and soon felt the SP-vibrations as well as loud noise in my head. I was happy, because it was some time ago that this had happend. Maybe I was too excited about it, because the SP only lasted a few seconds and I came back to the real world.

I've felt sleepy all day with a bit of a headache. Sleeping too long is definitely not helping to feel awake. I'll try to go to bed earlier this night AND wake up earlier.

Damn, I've never missed so many dreamsigns in 1 night...
I was even dreaming about trying to WILD, but also unsuccesful

When I woke up at 5am, I couldn't remember a thing from last dream, probably because I hit snooze once. I stayed up for about 45 mins, reading several dream journals and tutorials and playing the 'ultimate lucid induction mp3'

As soon as I lay in my bed again, the dream of earlier that night came back. It had a very usual theme: I had to organise a trip for some people at university and we were traveling by train. But I didn't have the trip fully planned, so I ended up in a train in Germany (train without a roof, common dreamsign = trains without roof, walls or floor). I kept in contact with the rest of the group via sms. My mobile phone seems to work perfectly in each dream, but I should really install an RC on using it during the day

I forgot about the group and got off the train. There was a small bed&breakfast next to the station, where I slept in 1 room with the owner of the place. I tried to fall asleep, but strange things were happening. I can't exactly name it, but one of them was that the train was allmost running over us, but just passed a few metres from my bed. I remember the conductor looking inside our bedroom. The owner of the B&B told me this happened every night and was the reason her B&B was so cheap.

Finally the group of other students arrived and I had to give a presentation. I was writing on a blackboard, but the words that appeared, were not the words I was writing. I kept erasing and writing new words, but couldn't make a decent presentation out of it...
I had this same experience a few days ago, where I wanted to show my boyfriend about a certain party I read about during the day. I had the same flyer in my hand in this dream, but the party was nowhere on this flyer.

Then my alarm went off. I tried to elongate the dream, but hitting snooze only destroys my recall. Dreams of the second part of last night will follow later...

Yawn... I've been away from my pc too long to write down the rest of that dream and now I can only remember the part I already wrote down in the 'task of the month' topic

Yesterday I didn't write down anything at all. I had 2 20min naps, I knew I dreamt something, but recall was hard because both times I woke up stressfully (second time by an allmost choking flatmate who rushed into my room for help).

Now it's 6 in the morning. My BF got up for work and I can sleep another 3 hours before I need to do anything so here's another shot to becoming lucid by WBTB.
I just remembered my only 2 LD's happend after I stayed IN bed, reading on the forum for only 20-25 mins, so that's what I will do today.

Dream recall from the first part of the night still sucks, especially if I can't lay down in the same position after waking. I only remember I was dreaming about horses again. Some friends and I had been riding and we put the horses back in a new field with a lot of grass.

I've never had so much dreams about horses as since I've started reading about (L)D 3 weeks ago :-) A good thing, because I LOVE dreaming about horses.
Well, maybe I always did dream this, but just never remembered

2 dreams from yesterday (7-11)

With my family, I was visiting some good friends of my parents, who appeared to live in my grandma's house. My grandma's house is, in my dreams, a bit weird. She has an attic with normal stairs, but this is the second time I dream about those stairs and they just don't connect to the next floor. There's like a 1 meter (3ft ) gap between the stairs and the opening in the door, so I have to climb/jump in order to get through. Actually, I have this problem more often in dreams. Sometimes in a water-slide, which doesn't connect to it's stairs.
I remember one guy (son of my parents friends) was coming after me and I really wanted to 'escape' to the attic. But in climbing the stairs, I felt like I was fainting, I barely made it to the top and then I was hanging there on the floor, I didn't have the power to pull myself up. By that time, the dream ended. (there was also a long story before this happend, but I mosty forgot due to not writing down in time).

Second dream: I was involved in a play, with some semi-friend. She was reading a story and I had to act. There was a large room full of spectators, but I wasn't really bothered by them. The thing that bothered me, was that I KNEW I had practised this play in my previous dream, but now on stage, I didn't remember it. I was angry with myself, for forgetting to practise more. At some point, I was just standing there, not knowing what to do. My kind-of-friend kept on reading the same part, hoping I would continue the play, but I was completely clueless... Then she ordered someone to close the curtains. PFEW.
I remember the play was about animals and my last actions was I was laying on the bed curled up like a little dog. Strange notice about this: it was the first time I realised I was looking at myself, lying there. I was already behind the stage, looking at myself, being stupid (not knowing what to do) and I also saw the audience and my semi-friend reading her lines... How weird!
Another strange thing is I did not feel ashamed, lying there in front of a big audience. I was only feeling stupid I didn't practice enough (like going to an exam, for which I didn't study enough, so I know I'm not going to pass).

I woke up several times that morning, each time feeling very sleepy. Maybe this is because of waking up at 5 every morning, so it breaks my natural sleeping cycle?

2 dreams from last night (8-11-'07)
Went to bed at 2:45 (really late). Set my alarm at 6.30 (needed to upload some files on my server, but didn't wake up from the alarm ) Woke up naturally at 8:30 feeling very fit, which is not normal for me after less then 6 hours sleep.

First dream was about horses again. Yeah, what a progress, I was now even teaching in my dream (I'm a self-educated instructor on Natural Horsemanship, in case you want to know )
There was a lady with a very pushy horse. Not agressively pushy, just a calm, dominant chestnut mare. She was not a very good leader for that horse, so I gave her instructions on how to become more focussed. I remember a good friend of mine was watching me. We were discussing the instructions I gave. I agreed with her that these instructions were indeed a bit rude for the horse, but in this case, the lady was so insecure, she needed to master this bodylanguage first, before she could be more polite again.
When walking with the horse, I told her to focus on one spot, while aiming her right a bit to the side, like 20 degrees off course, so she would block her horse from running over her.

Second dream was a very long one, or maybe it was one or more dreams following each other. It's still a difficult for me to distiguish between separate dreams, because I've allways thought that I had only 1 (long) dream per night.

I was at a kind of summer-camp with friends from high school and university. I don't remember too much of it, but we were making plans to go somewhere by car. We had to load a lot of stuff into my car. At first I thought it was a long way walking to my car, but suddenly the parking lot was just behind a small hill (note: 10m high is already called a hill here ) I was being lazy, pretended I had to clean up some stuff so the others would do the heavy work and put everything in the car.
Summer-camps are a frequent event in my dream too. Whenever there is some kind of meeting with other people, it's usually some kind of camp.

Hey!

I just had a quick read through your DJ, I like what I see some good dreams there

You have really good recall keep it up im looking forward to reading more

Thanks Mark
Allways good to hear that someone other than myself is enjoying my dreams, haha.
I'll read your dream journal next time I'll try WBTB

I allways read a few pages of 1 persons dream journal every time, especially the ones with lucid experiences, cause I have the feeling it will help becoming lucid when going back to sleep.

Unfortunately, I'm on an obligatory WBTB-pause at the moment, because I was getting too tired during the day (see this topic)

Originally Posted by Sara

Dream recall from the first part of the night still sucks, especially if I can't lay down in the same position after waking.

That happens to me as well. If I roll over onto my other side while trying to do recall, the dream fades away instantly.

I like all the horse dreams. But what is natural horsemanship?

Good to hear I'm not alone, The Cusp
When I remember a small part of the dream, I can usually recall more of it. But waking up, remembering I HAD a dream, but without any clue what it was about, I've got nothing to hold on to, to recall more. Sometimes it will get back later, when something happens that triggers a memory.

I like it that you ask about natural horsemanship
NH is about understanding the true nature of horses and acting in a way they understand. It's like the horse whisperer, but in a realistic way. (if you're really interested, there's like a million web pages about NH )

No dreams to recall from last night
Somehow I got really interested in polyphasic sleeping schedules 2 days ago. Since I was already napping during the day because of tiredness due to WBTB, I thought I might take the challenge to see how fast I can adapt to the Everyman sleeping schedule. Only downside so far is missing a long REM sleep in the morning, so no nice dreams to remember... I hope my brain is catching up on REM in the naps very soon, so I have some dreams to recall during the day. Maybe I should make a post on this in the 'alternative sleeping' corner on this forum, but I only started 1 day ago and I'm not sure how long I will continue this schedule...

Good morning - again

Wow, this was interesting.
I had my first nap of the day (12-12.30) with a relaxing song at the background. (l'enfant, by Vangelis).
I was a bit tired, but I couldn't really fall asleep, so I tried several relaxation techniques (counting breaths, saying words that refer to sleeping (yawn-dream-tired-sleep, but then in Dutch)) until I was really relaxed.
At certain points, I could almost feel my body falling asleep, but when this happened, I thought 'ah, I'm going to sleep' and of course this caused me to wake up a little.

Two times I had a very interesting experience. It felt as if my hand was making a movement, like slowly grabbing something above me, but at the same time I knew my arm was lying still, under my pillow. As soon as this happened, I had a very short, but clear dream-flash.

first dream-flash:
many white horses with 'sinterklazen' (dutch version of santa claus) on a muddy field. Some where children dressed up on white ponies
TV crew was there
all horses turned their butt to the camera and lifted their tails (you know what a horse will do next ) but that was it.

Picture of Sinterklaas on his horse:


second dream-flash:
A car drives through some water on the street (damn, what's the english word for 'plas')
Drops of water splash up, but they are like big, bright blue computer drawn drops.

At 4 mins before my alarm should go off, I hear a distinct voice saying 'WAKE UP'. And I am instantly awake, not feeling tired at all.
This is really cool. Now I can have a kind of WBTB 4 times a day, without feeling tired and foggy all day.

Originally Posted by Sara

Unfortunately, I'm on an obligatory WBTB-pause at the moment, because I was getting too tired during the day (see this topic)

I have never really done WBTB lol the most I do is wake up to write my dreams down then go back to sleep lol.....perhaps I should give it a try

lol you dream alot about horses....wish I could dream about what im intrested in

Originally Posted by mark

I have never really done WBTB lol the most I do is wake up to write my dreams down then go back to sleep lol.....perhaps I should give it a try

Erm, that's also waking, back to bed, isn't it?
It doesn't say you have to get out of bed, just be awake for a certain time, do some dream related stuff and go back to sleep with lucid dreaming on your mind.

Originally Posted by Sara

Erm, that's also waking, back to bed, isn't it?
It doesn't say you have to get out of bed, just be awake for a certain time, do some dream related stuff and go back to sleep with lucid dreaming on your mind.

that is true lol

ita juat most of the tutorials say to stay awake for over 30 mins lol...at least I think thats what they say lol its been a while since I last looked

As from now, I'll post my polyphasic sleeping comments here in green, so you can skip right to the dream-part of my journal.

Travelling messed up my schedule a little bit yesterday. Normally I sleep very well in the train and I planned a 30min nap between 2 stations. But... I didn't realise it was rush hour, so the train was fully packed and I was just lucky to find a seat. Well, tried to sleep a bit, but the man next to me was drinking beer and was smelling like a drunk person, IEUW!

Without at least a full 15mins of sleep, I had to transfer trains, my next train had a delay and I was walking around feeling a bit dizzy. Then I called my boyfriend, who told me he would only be home at 9. So yes, time for some sleep at his place before he comes home

No dreams this nap, just a full 30min sleep till 20.30. Next nap was at 0:00 in bed, alarm set at 0:40 and no trouble waking and getting up. Nap time was too long I think, I was feeling a bit drowsy and couldn't find a good physical activity to wake me up. (doing laundry would probably wake my BF and he was not all too happy about my new strange sleeping habit, so better not disturb him now )

Core sleep 3 cycles (4,5 hours) till 7:30

Yeah, a very long dream again!
In contrary to all my relaxt and happy dreams of the past weeks, this was one with a bit more negative emotions.

Watching a movie with some friends, promised each other to go again next week.
But the week after, only my best friend and I were there. (note: this time it was really my best friend, not some pretended, mixed up dream character I believed to be my friend).
After the movie, we tried to get home, but the floor was changed into conveyor belts and we had to run fast in order to get forward. We were athletic to manage, but nonetheless, we ended up in a hospital. As we were lying there, I somehow had to get myself a cellphone before we could get out. I talked to my friend, discussing about the other people who didn't show up and about a certain 'battle' between us, that there always has to be one of us better than the other (which has totally no link to reality). Suddenly, I had a cellphone in my hand, so I could get out of the hospital/restriction being in bed (hmm, some residue of 'the Matrix' I watched yesterday )

But out of the hospital, I was in a REAL battle, on miniature scale. I had to build/train fighters, who were then sent to the battleground, fighting each other with spears and catapults (like in a computer game, kind of Age of Empires. It's been a long time since I've played that game, haha)
I retreated for a short time and when I came back with 2 more fighters, the opponent had evolved much faster and had a HUGE catapult built of wooden pallets. I felt really lost, how could this happen? Was I so slow? Fortunately, the giant catapult could only be fired once. It missed and collapsed and then I somehow had won the battle without a real fight.

Next scene: I have 2 pet rats and one of them is ill (in real life too). I was talking to my parents and BF what would be the easiest way to 'put him to sleep' and they suggested feeding him to the cat. (poor ratty ) Then the rat turned out to have the same tabby colour as the cat, he was much smaller then IRL, so I guessed he could be eaten by the cat very quickly, not suffering too long... and then my dream ended.

I'm happy with so much recall after a shorter period of sleep.

I felt pretty good in the morning. I lay in bed for half an hour after waking, without falling back asleep. Now I have a slight overall feeling of tiredness, which I hope will pass with some nice outdoor exercise.

{extract from previous post, question left out}
Yeah, last night I had my first WILD experience!

I lay on my right side, facing my BF sleeping next to me. I had the Ultimate Lucid Induction mp3 on my iPod on the lowest volume.
I feel I'm 'falling' into SP and I'm too sleepy to become excited about it and wake myself up. I got to the point where my body says: BREATHE OR DIE!
Before knowing what SP was, I started to focus on my breathing as hard as I could, trying to wake up or waking up my BF, who would then touch me and get me out of it.
But now my thoughts were split, between waking up and going through and enter a dream.

So it went like: breathe, no relax, no breathe! no go with it! At the same time, a terrible feeling got into my head. It was like wearing a way too small helmet, pushing on my head from all sides, making it want to implode or explode or whatever, while at the same time it felt like there was a lot of noise, while there was nothing to hear.... not even the mp3 on my iPod.
The one moment I felt my body started breathing faster, then I was seeing through my eyelids that my BF did not react on that. I remember thinking 'ah, I'm looking through my eyelids, so I'm starting to dream now, let's try to get up'. I managed to get myself up (in my dream) The noise/pressure on my head was increasing and I was angry with my boyfriend for not helping me to get out of SP, but at the same time I was happy I was in a dream. But ARGH that noise/pressure/pain!

I wanted it to go away, but couldn't think clear because of it. I punched my BF, then jumped into the air, throwing myself onto my BF (like in a fight, really meant to hurt him/wake him up, but he didn't.
Instead of landing on him, I felt through the bed, through the wall and onto the floor. I remember very clearly looking at the floor, it had exactly same pattern as IRL and I could feel it being cold and looking at my hands, since I was on my hands and knees (but don't remember if my hands looked odd).
Then the pain/pressure was TOO MUCH to handle, I couldn't feel my legs (just like my previous short LD) and I was happy I woke up because the pain was mostly gone, I still had some vague headache, but I could cope with that. I switched the music on my iPod to my regular sleeping music (Norah Jones) and fell asleep fast and calm.

Pfew, what story of only a minute of LD experience.

Later that night, I had a very long dream, which surprised me because I was only sleeping for 4 hours.
I planned to do 3 cycles (4,5 hours) but woke up after only 4 hours, feeling well rested.

Some fragments I remember from the dream (didn't write it down soon enough to remember more)

1) I have a selling booth on a horse fair, but I'm not working in it (there's other people working for me). I walk around and see there's fake snow on the ground. It's small polystyreen balls and cookie-shapes of this same stuff.

2) There is a jumping competition, with very strange jumps. Inflatable Air castles (the ones children play on, don't know if this is the english word for it) very large tyres etc. I know I'm in the competition too, but don't actually ride my horse.

3) I'm in a small motel room and want to take a warm bath.
All equipment is there, but as a puzzle.
There's a tub, a water pump, a stove to heat the water, wood for the stove and some tubes... All I need to do is connect the things in the right order to fill my bath with hot water. I manage, but then the stove cannot be used and another one appears where I can put in the wood, but it's too far away from the tub and I wonder how I build it all again to make a working connection...

4) There's something with a pickup truck, a bad road (snow or heavy rainfall) and someone or some animal that needs to be rescued.

There was a connection between these parts. Somehow it always seems logical how I end up in some other place. Well, that must be 'dream-logic'...

wow thats a strange experience! must have been kind of scary! I cant say I understand what it must have been like. SP for me is somewhat peaceful not that painful thing you described.

I wonder if you were actually dreaming or if it was HI? because I have never felt my body during a LD...dunno though maybe someone more experienced could advise better

Last night I was ready for another WILD. I changed my pillow (maybe a softer pillow would prevent the pressure on/in my head). But I was so tired, I fell asleep very soon, without going through SP.

Air-cycling with the wind
This was also a long dream, but again, because of being sloppy and not writing it down as soon as I woke up, most of the detail got lost. I'm not going to let this happen again, because they were really good adventures!

I was on holiday with my BF. (I hardly ever dream about him, usually it's my ex-boyfriends that join me in my dreams ). We were air-cycling in Germany. This was kind of cycling, but only in the same direction the wind blows, so we didn't get tired and it felt more like floating. Very comfortable, they should invent this kind of bikes in the future

We took a break and I was looking around for a bench to lie on, because I really needed to take a nap.

I really overslept on my 2nd nap that evening, woke up 6 hours later (wake up time of 3rd nap actually). Had some nice dream in that sleep too, but I only remembered kissing my ex-boyfriend.(after reading someone's DJ)
Usually he's a very good kisser (he was IRL and still is in dreams, so I love to dream about that), but now the kissing really sucked It was too fast and without feel...

Core sleep: 4.30-8.00h

YEAH horsey dream again!
Plus I was in France (with horses).

Summary of events, will leave out details to keep it shorter. Very vivid, detailed and long dream. Really enjoyed it!

A friend an I were putting horses from the stable in different pastures
Changing my horses place, because he's in fight, or will be injured by the others
One horse needed to be put down, because he is getting a bit skinny and the owner doesn't want the tourists to complain about this (IRL a horse was put down in France, but because he was old and in pain) This was a disturbing part. I wanted to save the horse, he was only 10 y/o and very pretty, but other people urged me to move on while the vet gave him the 'final shot'. Before that, the horse was lying down out of himself. Someone said: 'he's very well trained'. And I was feeling even more sorry for the horse.

We were now on a muddy field, where I had to pretend to be sword-fighting with a HUGE man (about 2.5m tall, strong muscled) but it was just to make a movie, so he let me win, I put my sword in his chest (saw blood too, but somehow I knew this was fake) and cuddled me afterwards and carried me back to a house (he was very sweet).

The house turns out to be a kind of storage room with a kind of mess that you have after a week holiday (personal stuff and food from all people, lying around). We are sorting it out, I wanted to keep the sweets and some other food. I don't remember eating in my dream... I gave some sweets to the kids hanging around there.

We walked back with our full bags and the area was flooded with water! On the left, a complete grass field was under water and it was streaming toward the road, where it created a small waterfall (1m high, but 100m long) which looked very beautifull. The sun was shining, all plants were so bright and green... I love to see nature like this!

We came back to the horses field and that was also partly flooded. It felt so nice and 'soppy' to walk on this extremely wet ground. Now my horse needed to be moved again, because this wet ground was not so good for him. We put blankets on the horses, or took them of, they were soaked with water.

My parents were there and were disapproving of me staying in France longer than I planned. They were worried that my work/study in Holland would suffer from this (well, the study did IRL, hahaha) It would be better for me if I didn't stay there. I was very disappointed, because I liked it so much there! (still do, IRL I'm going back in June for another 2 months, but after finishing my studies)

While I was only busy for what seemed like 10 mins, my friend came back telling she had done a LOT of work. Ridden 2 horses, prepared the food, cleaned the stables. I was wondered, how did she manage to do this so quickly!
I think this referred IRL to me being a bit lazy on difficult or boring jobs (cleaning stables, yuck) and often need some 'push' before I get things done. Yeah, I'm working on it Anna! But keep pushing me in the meanwhile

Ahhh, sorry Mark, I missed your comment yesterday. Probably because I was typing the same time you were posting this

Originally Posted by mark

wow thats a strange experience! must have been kind of scary! I cant say I understand what it must have been like. SP for me is somewhat peaceful not that painful thing you described.

It would have been very scary if it was the first time experience, but I've had SP so often, that know what can happen if I don't try to wake up... I would love to have a peaceful SP and just enjoy being paralysed... But I think this experience is not as scary as seeing evil presences or aliens in your room
So you can praise yourself lucky that your SP is peaceful

I wonder if you were actually dreaming or if it was HI? because I have never felt my body during a LD...dunno though maybe someone more experienced could advise better

I think it may have started from HI, but I was definitely dreaming at the end. The final seconds were really comparable to my 2nd LD (where I became lucid in the dream itself). And actually to my first too. The moment I realise I don't feel my legs, or do feel them but in a different place than where they should be, I get pulled out of my dream.
Any advice on this?

Originally Posted by Sara

Any advice on this?

lol sorry, im not to good when it comes to wilding but as for waking up apparently paying alot of attention to your dream is supposed to work along with things like rubbing your hands together and dream spinning.

Try sending a PM to one of the really experienced members they will know alot more then me

cool dream last night...great recall lol and loving the horses ha ha

Tuesday 13th

I did all the 'necessary' actions that worked for my previous LD (reading DJ's, playing the lucid induction mp3, being a bit tired when going to bed, RCing a lot during the day) but unfortunately, no result
I guess I was a bit too tired, because I felt the first shift of going into SP, but fell asleep very soon after that.


Slept from 3.30-7.00h, snoozed once (dammit) and therefore forgot the logical order in which my dream-events had taken place.

So here a non-chronological, not-so-detailed summary:

I'm in a odd house. You need a special 'key' to be able to move to other rooms. The key is more a symbolic item, which you need to find inside a room. But even with help from someone who knew where he put the key, I was unable to find it.

There's a visitor from france, or I am briefly in france, but he tells me I'm too late for joining the super-slide-party (a giant slide of water/soap built on a hill) and I'm very sad that I missed this

I'm back in a house, 2 of my ex-housemates are there (J&J) and they're making kind of sexually harassing jokes (to me, or about me). I really want to leave, but things are working against me. Can't find a key (again). I'm looking for it in a room, next to the room where the others are. J is coming in and wants to grab me, but I don't want it, so he's pissed and leaves.

When I'm finally in my car driving home, I discover I was only 6km from my parents house, so why did I spent hours searching for my car keys :S [interesting: this is one of the first times I remember a specific number from my dream]
The environment is very similar to that IRL, only difference might be that the distances are not equal (I travel through it on higher speed?).