Thread: Invader's Spoils of War

After seeing a thread on psychokinesis yesterday and reading through MementoMori's last response in the thread, I had an idea to try something that had little to do with psychokinesis and more to do with dreaming. It first occurred to me that if someone should want to move an object with their mind, they have to first believe that the mind can influence and connect with physical things. So why not get very familiar with one object and practice on that? Maybe some level of intimacy with that which is to be moved would aid the mover. It would probably be preferable that the object is unique and not common so that it stands out in the mind of whoever wants to move it, too. So, I did this by picking up a live round from my rifle. It measures 7.62 centimeters long, a good fit considering I seldom ever see ammunition and that my item was small enough to be strung on a necklace (portable). As I said though, what occurred was more dream oriented. I put the round under my pillow for the night and slept, thinking that maybe sleeping on it would do something in terms of "tuning" it to me (I really don't know, so let's see how things work out in the future).

What's the significance of that? Well...

Last night I dreamt of searching for a hidden treasure under the ground. I was moving through a large network of dry, dirt-ridden caves with a small party of 3. It was one of these other members' ideas to go looking for it, not my own, and after having come upon the end of the map we dug out a chest that was stacked with many other like chests. But there was nothing in any of them.. Instead they formed a wall, and beyond the wall was a clean, dark blue room that smelled cold and dank. The place was made of an azure colored stone. My group and I ventured through another passage in this room and, lo and behold, we came out on some complex above ground that swarmed with many armed men. All of them were armed with machine guns. [* Important thing to note, the last time I had a dream with any kind of firearm in it was well over 3 years ago, and it was only a small pistol that someone else chose to shoot me with... Much to their regret *]. It's difficult to understand how this happened, but I died twice and was back a third time (from gunfire, obviously). These men weren't senseless drones, each had a personality and the fierceness that made them look more like hired mercenaries than guards. Anyways, third time around I recall having been angry myself, and fuel by my emotions I used a heavy chair made of metal next to me as a projectile and launched it at one of their heads before they'd noticed me. I relieved the man of his weapon and went nuts (It's best to get familiarized with the phrase: What goes around comes around). I loaded the auto with a clip that had small rounds and made the firing of the gun too quick and strained. Fading.. Fading...

I woke up and felt the bullet under my pillow. That was a good deal more shooting than I had anticipated, being that I had anticipated none to begin with.

I'm not typically one for violent behavior, though I suppose getting shot at and killed twice kind of changes things. In any case, rifle bullet >> dreams about guns. The intention was not to use it as an aid for dreams when I had put it under my pillow in the first place, but I like the concept. Next time I'll consider putting something a little more friendly under the pillow. In the meantime I'm going to string this thing on a necklace and be on my way.

Will reply when keybord works ...really awesome thread though dunnohow I havemissed it ssso far

I like the idea of influencing your dreams with objects like that...even though I realize that wasn't your intention. It would make for an interesting experiment I think, to put something new under your pillow each night and keep a record of how often it manifests in your dreams.

[* Important thing to note, the last time I had a dream with any kind of firearm in it was well over 3 years ago, and it was only a small pistol that someone else chose to shoot me with... Much to their regret *]

I noticed a connection between this dream and your previous dream with the naval battle where you could hear the guns firing and such. Just thought I would point that out in case you overlooked or forgot about it...but you may intentionally be omitting it because it does not deal with a firearm specifically? For me personally I would categorize it all under "war, guns, battles, bullets, firearms" lol all inclusive, since I rarely dream of such things. But I guess for someone who actually owns a gun it's probably quite different. Anyways, that is pretty cool that you had a dream about using a firearm after putting the bullet under your pillow. I'm anxious to see what other things you might try out!

The presence remained, as happens to be the case in this particular brand of dream. I knew I wanted to be on my way, and again hadn't had the benefit of experiencing a vivid lucid in a while. Bad sleep does that, you know. So I flew through the glass window like a ghost and over the town that bore a strong semblance to London, England. At around two hundreds yards from the fifth story that I flew from, I began to feel the other mind work against me as I slowed in midair and got dragged back towards the room. Alarms were screaming in my head. I decided to work with the force and flew right back through the building to the other side, but the other entity that remained invisible to me (and all around me) was going to tug me right back. I focused as best I could and tried to "fall sideways" through the air, as opposed to regular flying. I was tumbling erratically and had little sense of which way was up and down for a while, but I knew that I was getting progressively further from whatever haunted that tower (or this entire world). As my orientation in the air stabilized I remained in a southward drift. I was over the ocean now, and dotted below me were hundreds of islands with large stone battlements and fortifications being fired upon by large, modern warships. I could hear the thunder of the cannons and rat-tat-tat of the shore guns firing back. The vividness of the naval battle was striking. This world was torn in war and reeked of negativity.

I kept adrift for awhile.
After waking I was still aware of the other mind watching my own. I was aware of it, and it of me.

It's puzzling. Does the presence exist as a fragmented part of my own mind, or do I unintentionally walk into other worlds with their own slew of dark deities? The "other" in these kinds of dreams do have a locality in that they exist in a part of the space and not all of it, but they also occupy a lot of the space at the location they exist at. This means that if one is to approach me and get close enough, it surrounds me and feels very much as if it's looking at me from all sides.

This is really intense. I've read through several of your dreams here and I'd love to talk to you about them more in depth. Have you considered the possibility of astral projection or even remote viewing? These do not seem like normal dreams to me, and you even say that you feel strongly that these places and these presences are real. Well, I think you're right, and I might have some insight into what could be going on. Let me know if youd want to meet up in IRC later! I'll be home from class around 8pm EST.

Originally Posted by Invader

I gave some thought to the concept of love, now that I could think coherently. The night prior I was telling a friend that such things will not happen, not for myself, and not in a moaning, pissy way either, but rather matter-of-factly. I have experienced infatuation for another. That is not love. Love was that connection in the dream, one that I've experienced in dreams prior. Can that ever exist between two people in such ways? Well, it's not the first time I've asked the question. Typically it's "Is it possible to feel THIS free and ALIVE in the real world?" just after waking from one hell of a badass lucid, or, "Is there such thing as fear like this in the real world?" after nightmares that are beyond what my words are capable of expressing. To the latter two questions, I've answered "No." It's hard to recall the intensity of the fear or joy after long enough time has passed between the present and when the dream in question occurred, let alone imagine that same intensity as a possibility while awake, and without being under the influence of some drug. Is that connection possible? In an ideal world, sure, and that's the answer I'd like to hear, but I'm settling on a realistic "maybe" that leans towards "No" for the time being. I wish it did, or rather, I hope it does, but only time can tell, and sometimes time doesn't bother to tell if you don't find yourself in the right circumstances.

I really enjoyed reading that.

For me, what you describe as the dream love would be akin to a Soulmate. I think that's what a Soulmate IS. Pure, uninfatuated, true love. It's really the only sort of love I seek...and I, like you, have also said that it would never happen for me. But I can still hope...

Originally Posted by Invader

I saw something in my dreams last night that I think no one should have seen. My memory of it now is only that of an image, but there was a very strong feeling that accompanied it. I was in some other part of the galaxy, still in space, looking at what appeared to be a partially organic vessel. It belonged to a savage race of aliens that I thought shouldn't have existed. I felt that what I was looking at was real. ..... I got the feeling that everything I saw and felt here was real. The feeling came from the spacecraft I was in. It was intelligent as well. It could think. It knew I was there inside it, though I was not in a material form.. As if it could feel me with its mind.

Very interesting dream. Have you had anymore dreams like this afterwards? I have to say that your DJ while lacks pictures is very organized and more than makes up with your amazing descriptions. I would say that you are pretty talented with your writing and I like your writing style. I read all your dreams in one sitting and found many of them interesting as well. Not sure how I missed this DJ either That love dream you recently had, I've heard of people having similar experiences. Is it possible you meet something like your subconscious which is why you felt a strong attraction to her? Just a guess though. I am very intrigued by the dreams where you felt a presence, mainly that vehicle that ate those humanoids, the clock dream where you were pulled back and I think there was another one or two more. I am thinking along the same lines as Aquanina with the whole astral projection and remote viewing. I'm interested in joining your conversation if possible, unless it's a private one of course

Originally Posted by Aquanina

I noticed a connection between this dream and your previous dream with the naval battle where you could hear the guns firing and such. Just thought I would point that out in case you overlooked or forgot about it...but you may intentionally be omitting it because it does not deal with a firearm specifically? For me personally I would categorize it all under "war, guns, battles, bullets, firearms" lol all inclusive, since I rarely dream of such things. But I guess for someone who actually owns a gun it's probably quite different. Anyways, that is pretty cool that you had a dream about using a firearm after putting the bullet under your pillow. I'm anxious to see what other things you might try out!

Hrmm, you could be right about that. I suppose I drew the line between the fact that in one dream the violence was directed at me, and in the other I was observing someone elses conflict from afar. Curious though. And I don't group guns as being separate from war, or in a category of their own from such things. Upon putting the bullet under my pillow in the first place I thought it was still an odd choice, being that it's purpose is first and foremost to kill something. For some reason however it is viewed as being different from, say, an arrow. Arrows have a kind of spiritual symbolism all on their own. The bullet instead represents a more industrialized and cold, detached form of hunting/killing.

Aaaanyways, that's why I asked you about the subject of crystals. I can think of some other things to try, but they don't seem significant enough.. I'll keep searching.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

For me, what you describe as the dream love would be akin to a Soulmate. I think that's what a Soulmate IS. Pure, uninfatuated, true love. It's really the only sort of love I seek...and I, like you, have also said that it would never happen for me. But I can still hope...

Likewise. Those dreams kind of kill the idea of regular relationships ("regular" is such a horrible word) for me. But there's likely someone out there who dreams similar dreams and so on so that being around them feels almost supernatural. I think that element is the crux of "dream-intensity" feelings in real life. Likewise the only kind of fear that could feel the same would be that of something not of this world.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

This is really intense. I've read through several of your dreams here and I'd love to talk to you about them more in depth. Have you considered the possibility of astral projection or even remote viewing? These do not seem like normal dreams to me, and you even say that you feel strongly that these places and these presences are real. Well, I think you're right, and I might have some insight into what could be going on. Let me know if youd want to meet up in IRC later! I'll be home from class around 8pm EST.

Looks like I was a bit late in responding (I'm not used to checking back in on my DJ so soon, see). But yes, I'd hear what you have to say. We can schedule another time, soon.

Originally Posted by BigFan

I have to say that your DJ while lacks pictures is very organized and more than makes up with your amazing descriptions. I would say that you are pretty talented with your writing and I like your writing style. I read all your dreams in one sitting and found many of them interesting as well. Not sure how I missed this DJ either That love dream you recently had, I've heard of people having similar experiences. Is it possible you meet something like your subconscious which is why you felt a strong attraction to her? Just a guess though. I am very intrigued by the dreams where you felt a presence, mainly that vehicle that ate those humanoids, the clock dream where you were pulled back and I think there was another one or two more. I am thinking along the same lines as Aquanina with the whole astral projection and remote viewing. I'm interested in joining your conversation if possible, unless it's a private one of course

Thanks for the good words.
I haven't had a dream like the spacecraft one since. As for the attraction thing, I'm still short on an explanation. The attraction is never physical. It's like knowing someone and adventuring through many different lives with them, like being connected with them on some core level. Like Nina said, soulmate.
Don't see why you shouldn't join. Unfortunately my response here is late, but as I said earlier, perhaps we should hammer out another time.

[edit] Almost forgot:

OMG epic. Mind if I use your avatar?? You should really start a club.

Originally Posted by timbowman1

omg epic. Mind if i use your avatar?? You should really start a club.

Ha ha ha.

Mostly, I want to stop being a machine. I want my soul back.

Past nights have been more densely populated with war-themed dreams. No fighting. I am carrying a gun slung over my back, or on board a warship. I love ships. We were testing explosives that were like miniaturized versions of nuclear weapons in the middle of open ocean. One dream on land involved another thinking thing, malevolent, though it didn't see me. It inhabited an abandoned house on the second floor, where through a wall was a hole drilled. It peered out from time to time with a bright crimson eye. I could hear it in my mind, I want to scream. It didn't see me. Waking up from the dream left a residue of the feeling. I think a nightmare can be strong enough that a person can commit suicide. I think the fear can be magnified to the point that one will go insane.

Mostly I don't know anything. Mostly I'm just blank. Mostly I want my soul back.