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      Quote Originally Posted by Reality_is_a_Dream View Post
      Dreams are free.
      You don't ever run out of dreams.
      Your mom never finds a bag of dreams leftover in the laundry machine.
      Dreams are not addictive.
      Dreaming doesn't go on your poliece record.
      Dreaming has no short term or long term effects.

      But yea, I can tottaly see the advantages to smoking pot.

      ...wait, no.
      THANK YOU FOR THAT!
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      Dreamscraper, that was a useless comment because it doesn't support your case at all. As Tranquil Toad alluded to, marijuana can lead to more than just sitting on your "arse" all day, as you would assume. In fact, that's an awful stereotype and one that I have found to be false on many occasions.

      Firstly, I don't usually just sit around while high. Normally, I'm out doing things, being social, studying , cleaning, etc...

      Also, it does indeed promote introspection. It has allowed me to either focus my mind on one thing and really probe that idea to an extent not usually possible to me while sober. It also allows me to simply let my mind flow to different things and gives me a sense of awareness of the present.

      You do make a good point that the rock climber feels good because he has accomplished a demanding, physical task and feels good about it. However, the smoker feels accomplished with realizing different things about themselves, including but not limited to deep introspection about moral and ethical beliefs, religious views, political views, spiritual views, etc. I for one feel a deep and profound sense of well being after smoking due to the ability to explore great depths within my mind which would be much more difficult while sober.

      As far as anyone arguing that smoking marijuana makes you stupid, I beg to differ. Some smokers are indeed lazy idiots, but it certainly wasn't caused by marijuana. There are of course many marijuana smokers who are in the top schools, top industries, top companies, etc...Again, it's not the marijuana that makes you stupid; maybe parenting, maybe society, but not smoking.

      Now the case is closed,
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      Pot doesn't make you sit on your ass, that's a choice you make, Weed just opens up your mind, and allows you to focus better on one thing. It is very hard to multitask on pot, but if you only focus on one thing, you can do that one thing 50% better then you could before. I love smoking pot and programming, i can always program 100% better then i could not high. Pot opens up things in your mind and lets you think more clearly. Its awesome.

      Also I will smoke weed all day and frame houses with my dad, with no negative side effects. I rarely get hurt, and i always work hard.

      All these silly things you hear which are bad about pot, are just made up by the government to try and control pot. But our government are all idiots, you cant control drugs and you never will be able too. Humans will always want drugs. Making them illegal is like declaring war against american's.

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      I smoke pot all the time, about 10 joints aday. Makes my life so fun.

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      I hotboxed my friends bathroom yesterday, and had an LD this morning.
      I personally find that marijuana does not impair my ability to LD at all,
      In fact 2 of my 3 LDs were accidental, I had smoked the day before and even without trying it sorta happened.

      I'd say having good dream recall would help, Or just making sure you're not in burn out mode when you go to sleep. Burn out can last days if you're not used to weed, but if you are you can get rid of the grogginess from it by not sleeping right after it or drinking energy drinks or having a shower. Or whatever else that'll make your head less cloudy.

      I find I'm more likely to go into SLeep paralysis or have an LD if theres some sort of activity going on around me. If a tv is on, music is on, or most effectively if I hear real life conversation near me as I'm sleeping (Like family members talking in the house loud enough for you to hear while you're trying to sleep or something)

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      I was smoking pot for 2 years, and when my tolerance was super high, i was able to have dreams, but never lucid. I've been off the herb for a month and a half now, and my dreams are way more vivid, and I can remember a bunch of them when I wake up. Just need to get lucid now...

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      I smoke every day, and have great recall. I've had 14 lucids this month already. Often times, like today, I have been smoking all day long and don't have trouble recalling dreams. I think it varies between people.

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      haha pot smokers 10
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      happy 420!!!

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      I think people that are pothead newbs, and get high really easily, have dream recall affected by it. The frequent smokers that smoke several times a day don't get affected as much. At least this is the case for me. Idk.

      I think it's a tolerance thing.

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      ^ I guess if you're speaking for a high tolerance stand point, that might be right like if you never take tolerance breaks. I try to keep it low so it's not really expensive but still smoke everyday/night. I can't remember dreams for shit regularly when I go to bed stoned.

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      Damn, happy LATE 420. Hope you guys had a good day yesterday with whatever it is that you did.

      For research purposes only lol, I smoked a joint at 7:30 pm and went to bed around 11:45 - 12:00 and remembered at least a decent amount of a dream (if that counts).

      Brandon

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      I agree with Michael. I smoke everyday and have great recall. Doesn't effect it at all.

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      Thats Silly.
      I smoke pot on a regular basis. I also keep a Dream Journal on an even more regular basis.

      As long as you make an effort to always be improving your dream recall, I don't think any harmless herb will affect your dream recall.

      My dream recall is very vivid. I spontaneously become lucid at least twice a week without even trying to induce it.


      I suppose if you just decide to start smoking pot, but are not proactive about developing a stronger Dream Recall, then yes. You will fail. Regardless of whether you smoke pot or not; if you are not proactive about developing a stronger dream recall - you still fail.

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      I haven't smoked in a few months (except for a few times here and there) because I have to take drug tests now, but weed doesn't affect my recall much. As long as you still put forth the effort of keeping a dream journal and stuff, your recall shouldn't be hindered much, if at all. Like a few other people before me said, it might have to do with tolerance, too. If you don't smoke much then it'll probably hurt your recall a little.

      Try doing a wbtb and get high. For me, it makes wild'ing a lot easier and I still remember my dreams. They're usually pretty weird too.

      Quote Originally Posted by Reality_is_a_Dream View Post
      Your mom never finds a bag of dreams leftover in the laundry machine.
      Dreams are not addictive.
      Lol, if your mom still does your laundry you probably shouldn't be smoking anything. And pot isn't addictive.
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      Weed doesnt' affect my recall unless I smoke everyday. I don't like to smoke everyday anymore in general, I get less accomplished, and I'm getting to the point where I can play guitar at a very high level of focus, but only when sober. For me it seems to be more of the way I live when I smoke everyday that affects recall. When I smoke all day, I feel like I'm not living up to my potential mostly because I don't spend 3-4 hours practicing like I like to. It puts me in somewhat of a lazy mood and I'm not usually thinking much about dreaming. It's also a lot more enjoyable when you do smoke if you only smoke 2-3 days a week.

      I can still remember my dreams when I smoke, but to me it always seems to be more effected by how I'm living and if I'm keeping a dream journal. Keeping a dream journal keeps your mind on dreaming.
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      I have read on the internet from various sources about the effects of rem sleep from smoking marijuana. Smoking marijuana will suppress rem sleep and affects short term memory, therefore making it difficult to recall dreams. This is only a temporary effect. My best advice would be to sustain from smoking about 6 hours or so before bed on nights that you are trying to do a LD.

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      i used to smoke constantly, ive been sober for a while now, it sux
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      Funnily enough

      I love to smash me some buckets. I find that I actually have a better chance of remembering, more vivid dreams and more chance of lucidity when I toke up.

      I actually find it's substances like acid and shrooms (which I have only done twice each and I swear I will NEVER do them again, my mind and hallucinogens aren't meant to mix apparently!) and booze that kills the dreaming ability. That's why I don't drink. Alcohol brings back my night terrors.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ghost94 View Post
      Stop Pot.
      Why are people on here so against it? Its harmless, pots great. World would be a better place if everyone smoked.

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      Quote Originally Posted by manticaro View Post
      I have read on the internet from various sources about the effects of rem sleep from smoking marijuana. Smoking marijuana will suppress rem sleep and affects short term memory, therefore making it difficult to recall dreams. This is only a temporary effect. My best advice would be to sustain from smoking about 6 hours or so before bed on nights that you are trying to do a LD.
      He's Right, I can remember a lot of my dreams if I hold off a couple hours before I go to bed.

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      I smoke pot every day for about a month, I used to have about 1 LD a week, and at that time I would smoke about once every month or so. But when I started being a regular smoker I started to forget what dreaming felt like, and how much more fullfilling and worthwhile it is. Pot blasts your dream recall, so its really a one or the other choice. And now Im clean for the first time in a while and am finally starting to remember my dreams again.

      As a personal piece of advice: dont go regular, Its a waste of time and money.
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      Quote Originally Posted by DreaminMarty View Post
      Why are people on here so against it? Its harmless, pots great. World would be a better place if everyone smoked.
      I know! It's safer for you than booze and cigarettes, but I suppose, to quote Bill Hicks:

      "I think it’s interesting the two drugs that are legal, alcohol and cigarettes, two drugs that do absolutely nothing for you at all; and the drugs that might open your mind up to realize how badly you’re being fucked every day of your life?…Those drugs are against the law. Heheh, coincidence?"

      "Pot is a better drug than alcohol. Fact!… I’ll prove it to you. If you’re at a ball game or a concert and someone’s really violent and aggressive and obnoxious, are they drunk or are they smoking pot?"


      If it wasn't for weed, I never would have recovered from my anorexia/bulimia


      Quote Originally Posted by The_Patient View Post
      I smoke pot every day for about a month, I used to have about 1 LD a week, and at that time I would smoke about once every month or so. But when I started being a regular smoker I started to forget what dreaming felt like, and how much more fullfilling and worthwhile it is. Pot blasts your dream recall, so its really a one or the other choice. And now Im clean for the first time in a while and am finally starting to remember my dreams again.

      As a personal piece of advice: dont go regular, Its a waste of time and money.
      Maybe for you! I only find that dope fucks with my memory (a little bit) when I'm actually stoned but then when I'm sober my memory is as clear as a bell.

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      I'm a regular pot smoker. I smoke around 1 gram per day. My dream recall sucked for a long time. I could only remember pieces of a few dreams per week. Since last week I got back into lucid dreaming. I've been training my prospective memory for two weeks so that I can remember to remember dreams. Now I can remember several pieces from up to 4 - 5 dreams per day.

      Pot kind of destroys your memory, but it seems to be possible to sort of compensate this. My psychiatrist tells me to quit pot. I know I need to start doing it less, so I want to start lucid dreaming (again) instead. REM rebound seems awesome, but I am not sure if I want to quit. It's going to be tough for me.

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      I dont feel like reading this whole thread but i would like to say that i am ripped out of my mind

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      be like me: i smoke since 14


      now i'm 17 i smoke it only 1x at day maximum...and 10 before bed...

      When i smoke like i said, 10h before bed, when i go to bed i'm so tired that i got into LD in minutes...

      But when i smoke before bed i can't dream...

      smoke it but be responsible...Don't let it ruin LD's...Plain your high times far from dream times

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