Thread: Star Wars Episode III

I watched it last night, but was also too tired to post... among other reasons. Anyway, I really enjoyed the movie. It wasn't something that had me completely blown away, but from a scale of one to awesome, I'd say it was very good. If you like light saber scenes, you'll like this movie. And for all the "critics" (aka, ppl who physically can't sit down and enjoy a movie w/out analyzing it to death), shutup and leave my dream alone

I liked it.

-Amé

It was definately an improvement on the last 2 movies. Episode II, lagged in the middle. Episode III however, was very consistent in terms of pacing and action. Great plot, stunning effects, and the acting was better too. Definately less wooden than the last 2, but still a bit stilted. The way it gradually ties into Episode IV works very well.

Overall, a fantastic movie.

I saw Episode I, 3 times, Episode II twice and this one once. Seems weird really.

[quote] and the acting was better too. Definately less wooden than the last 2[quote]



Worst script in the world, the dialogue in the movie was wooden beyond comparison.. I thought the acting was good only on a facial level (people like McGregor, Jackson, Portman) the main actor who played Darth Vader was crap, didn’t really have the duplicity I expected or hoped for.

The action was way to fast, i love the momentum in the first three movies, these movies are like flashy MTV style music videos, it didnt have a very vivid style, beyond having an attention span of 2 seconds.

You did kind of feel for some of the characters though. How Obi-Wan had matured into this "old master" kind of tone, for example, or how Anakin felt he could never be up to his own expectations.

However, Anakin's "degeneration" into the dark seemed rushed and uncoordinated. Simply put, they could have done more of this in Episode II than III, and therefore given us more time to "zone out" and examine. For a character I felt respect for, I quickly found myself loathing. Darth Vader simply isn't as likeable anymore.

For example, in the volcano scene, near the end. Obi-Wan calls Anakin his brother, and literally says, "I love[d] you!" But instead he is slapped in the face with a poignant and juvenile "I...hate...you!!!!" You see how pathetic Anakin has become, and how he hasn't matured. And after this moment on, where we see the transformation into the mechanical Vader, it just doesn't click. You can't connect these two together, even though they are one and the same.

Instead, we are deprived from the ending of an arisen evil and powerless rebellion that leaves that pleasant smirk on your face, into a gritty ending that just manages to bother you mentally.

The real hero onscreen? Obi-Wan.
The real hero offscreen? Ewan McGregor.

He's made me change from fan-boy dark side, to fan-boy light side


PS: I loved the special effects (which managed to take about 80 percent of this movie's budget), but was it so necessary to CGI Vader's cape???

And also, I felt a better end would simply to have shown The Emperor and Darth Vader confidently looking out at the construction of the Death Star, but instead....ugh....

I agree about the Vader thing. It was most definitely the most dissapointing thing in the movie (don't think that makes me any less angry that Jar-Jar isn't dead yet!). Obi-Wan really was amazing though. The other problem I had was the little annoying things they threw in thinking they'd be funny--The 2-second piece where R2-D2 does the little 'uh-oh' thing kinda grated on my nerves a bit. It was just too much, ya know? And the scenes with Anakin/Vader seemed consistently over or under done. There was either too much to make it entertaining, or too little to make it understandable. The whole transition to the dark side took up about 3-seconds of the movie. That really bugged me. It was kinda like BANG! I'm evil now. So take that. The Wookie planet seemed good though, and I really liked the whole 'Order 66' scenes, thouigh the name 'Order 66' did seem a little...artificial. Like it didn't belong or something...either way, that was probably some of the most dramatic scenes of the movie, and it was definitely deserving of a good thumbs-up. But all in all, I'm rather dissapointed. It's like the designers at Lucas Arts were tired of making movies, so they just joked around with parts of this one, like a bunch of teenagers on the last day of school. They still did an awesome job with the movie, but I wish they could have kept their heads on through the whole thing and save the jokes for bonus DVD features--where most of them belong. Anyway, the other thing I had against it was that they left out the scene of Yoda arriving on Dagobah. They'd originally planned to include it, but they decided the movie had 'too many endings' and left it out. I think it would have put a lot more content in the movie. I mean, as it is, most casual watchers will be a bit confused about why the heck Yoda was on Dagobah in the later episodes, 'cuz it wasn't really explained other than a single remark about going into exile that was hardly audible or memorable.

Again, don't get me wrong, it's an AWESOME show. I just wish they'd fixed some of the little things.

Hey i like ur hair in that pic , that is when i did it! back in the good days when we were tight. Haha i remember having 2 fix that hair like 5 billion times the next day 2!

ANYWAY! so on Star Wars, I'v already seen it 2wice, last nite for the premiere & this morning after sleeping for 3 hours. I think it left a HUGE gap between episode 3 2 episode 4! there r so many questions! How does Chewie meet up w/Han & why? When does that wookie learn 2 fly? I don't recall Ani ever telling Obi 2 give Luke a lightsaber when he was old enough?? How does Laya remember her real mother when she died right after Child Birth? & this all going 2 the Darkside is a li'll uncovered. I 2 was disapointed w/him turning, i expected him 2 be full out BAD ASS evil! but no, he was just a sad broken hearted li'll man. The movie over all was really good. & i totally love Ewan's performance, pluss Haiden had a HUGE improvement w/acting, as did Natalie. The last complaint was the corny one liners...Yoda who is so extremely awesome, man he got some bad lines, & i think the jedi could've put more of a fight up. I mean when Palpatine came @ 3 they didn't do squat!
But yeah i liked it.

I hate stupid noises made by robots apart from a few by R2D2...... HOW FUNY WAS THE SCEEN were Jackson and the senetor where figtingit was sooo stupid when he was talking it was as if the directors where tring to take the Piss............THe film doesnt realy focus enough on on any points for exaple..... anikan needs to save his wife ..... dark side can save his wife .... anikan is now on the dark side .. They hould have made it a slower more painful change... It was prety good thugh nothing like the originals but no one thought they would be... however the old ones didn't show as many plaents and civilisations....

DARTH SIDIOUS: (continuing) Lord Vader, can you hear me? *

DARTH VADER, with his dark mask and helmet, moves up into the frame until he is in a CLOSEUP. *

DARTH VADER: Yes, My Master. *

DARTH VADER looks around the room. *

DARTH VADER: (continuing) Where is Padme? Is she safe, is she all right?

DARTH SIDIOUS moves closer to the half droid/half man. *

DARTH SIDIOUS: I'm afraid she died. ... it seems in your anger, you killed her. *

A LOW GROAN emanates from Vader's mask. Suddenly everything in the room begins to implode, including some of the DROIDS.

DARTH VADER: I couldn't have! She was alive! I felt her! She was alive! It's impossible! No!!!

VADER SCREAMS, breaks his bonds to the table, and steps forward, waving his hands, causing objects to fly around the room. SIDIOUS deflects the objects, but some of the DROIDS aren't so lucky. VADER'S PAINFUL SCREAMS echo throughout the Center. [/b]

All that needs to be said, this scene was totally pathetic, Darth Vader, what Darth Vader?

At least these movies will make people appriciate the orignial three movies more.

I must disagree. Yeah, that scene bugged me, but the rest of the movie offset the downside by far. As to the Darth Vader in general thing, I'd just like to say that he was a HUMAN. Not just a killing machine composed of pure evil. That's why everybody's complaining--They made him too human. But that's what the whole story's about--how a good, innocent human can be turned evil just as easy as everybody else. The next three show his son, also a good, innocent human being manages to stay good and innocent. As for the rapid change, it was just because, in the movie, he'd reached his breaking point and completely snapped. Now, it still didn't look so great, and the dialogue was anything but perfect, but I can see where their idea came from.

As to the Han Solo thing: They debated putting Han Solo as a child into the movie, but they decided against it because of time issues. Not a big problem as far as I see, if they'd included it the movie's flow would have been very much disrupted.

Princess Leah knew about her mother because Organa told her, again, something that would have been very much out of place in this movie. They'd have to extend the movie another few years into the future to explain that, and it just wouldn't look right if they jumped ahead all of a sudden just to show Leah learn about her mother.

The lightsaber thing...I think you're just dissecting the movie a little too critically now. They can't fit everything in, and they did a damned good job at what they did fit in there. A few things seemed a little odd or awkward, but that's to be expected.

Meh, makes sense i guess. So u r telling me Han lived on the Wookie planet? ok....
i was never a huge star wars fan 2 begin w/. i think the whole thing is silly. But the movies r good, only the old ones r way better, i mean lets face it George got so much power he was like "i can do whatever i want" he made the last 3 for his own entertainment forgetting his fans. He was just doing whatever he wanted it 2 be like. anyone who says anything else is obviously blind. I mean c'mon! back in the 2nd one where Padme is all skimpy in leather guess who made the outfit??? GEORGE! his reasoning - "Women who are senators still need 2 appear feminin." (since when does appearing feminin need 2 scream slut?) in George Lucas code this sentence means "OH yeah baby she needs 2 look haught!" What was up w/padme combing her hair when it was all jelled up...i can guess that.....
Natalie - "George this scene makes no sense my hair is already done..."
George - "Shut up this scene is perfect...now say my beautiful love lines"
..."You are so beautiful" oooo aaawwww how poetic!
i'm sorry George got a li'll caried away.
& as far as the movie continuing, i didn't mean that, i simply ment the gap between 3 to 4 is way WAY 2 huge. For all of us ya' know not so Star Wars nerds like u Tsen we kind of need some help. George expects us 2 know everything when we simply don't, i mean he should've made more movies if he wanted me 2 understand w/out asking Chantry questions!

oh & i forgot, the whole Leah thing makes no sense still, i mean Luke clearly says -
"What do u remember about ur mother...ur REAL mother"
she said -
"Well she died when i was very young, but i remember she was pretty, but very sad blah blah blah"
She talks leading the audience on (again i'm saying for those that don't read the books or over obbsess their lives pretending they or jedis & such) that Leah did know her mother through @ least part of her child hood.

yeah, but overall the movie is good.

& yeah if u r gonna go all Sith like ur not human ur crazy & all bad ass like, just as Darth Vader should have been....
Not all - Boo hoo, padme is dead, wha wha wha, I HATE OBI WAN! NNNNNNOOOOOOO all wooki scream like!

From what I've been feeling, it seem's the first 3 (4 through 6) were made with from business/profit, and succeeded that way, but the rest were more of Lucas "Getting Creative". Lucas himself said that he was one of the few people who knew he was standing on a goldmine, which is precisely why he has full control over the creative license to this date.

STAR WARS IS SHIT! (enough said).

George Lucas is a sell out.

regarding Jar Jar Binks...i think he's cute. And Yoda too...
why do i always have to be in the minority?

Well i saw it on opening night and i thought it was great..Hayden has improved in his ACTING...Obi-Wan..Yoda..Mace...all fantastic.. sure there were some issues...like Hayden's voice...even in his anger..his tone just doesnt seem "evil" enough to me as Anakin..anyhoo..thats not important...the fight scenes..were fantastic,,
The end scene where he finally becomes "vader" as most know him...cyborg suit and all was kind of anti climatic..i couldve used a bit MORE..
there are still some gaps to be filled but im sure the various Fan Filmers out there will have a go at it...
I think we saw Anakin's descent into darkness in episode 2 when , after not being able to save his mother he slaughtered the raiders..all of them..including the children...now that is some scary shit...killing kids.. although in 3 he seems more stable at least in the beginning,,we see that he is still full of fear..(losing Padme)..which Yoda has long told him would lead to the dark side...but those young upstarts dont listen to Master Yoda..tsk tsk...

he killed the younglings..that was f ucked up...but it shows u how far a man will go for his love..i guess... waaaahhh he kiiled the little kids....that hurt ....

All in all i think it is a fantastic movie..an epic vision that was brought to life for all to see...this last installment was certainly even more visually dense than the preceeding 2 films..George was probably experimenting so he can do some other films later on EPisode 3.5 The Dawn of Darkness..lol...

Originally posted by irishcream
regarding Jar Jar Binks...i think he's cute. And Yoda too...
why do i always have to be in the minority?

Um Jar Jar never one of my favorites...Yoda is totally cute! He's a li'll soft green old buddy i'd like 2 snuggle up w/!

Darth Vader or Anakin wasn't human...he didn't even have a father? Where the hell did that Y chromosome come from??

you know, they've done some research, and it said that those above the age of 25 liked the first 3 movies beter (episode 4, 5 & 6.
and those with those with the age of 25 and those below the age of 25 liked the last 3 movies better (episode 1,2 & 3)

personally, i thought it was a good movie, and this one definately had the best music of them all.
the lightsaber battles were done very well.

i liked the very first scene (the battle of coruscant & the rescue) very much (you could hear the name: "jesus" everywhere around you), and seriously, why do people think this movie isn't good??? some people hate it, but WHY? it wasn't that bad right?

one negative point of the movie is that the turning of anakin to dark side (with mace windu) was NOT VERY WELL DONE! i hated it...

and people, jar jar isn't a very major character, so don't think anything about him, think about this question: what will happen to anakin/darth vader now he's turned to the dark side?

but then again, i liked it, and that's what matters most for me

MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU ALL... and me

EDIT:
does anyone know what george lucas is going to do now he has finished the saga of star wars?

http://unitedstatesofno.ytmnd.com/

This parody song thing will make this horrible film all better.

Originally posted by CryoDragoon
you know, they've done some research, and it said that those above the age of 25 liked the first 3 movies beter (episode 4, 5 & 6.
and those with those with the age of 25 and those below the age of 25 liked the last 3 movies better (episode 1,2 & 3)

Um i'm 17 years old & i like the 3 old movies better. 4 5 & 6 r way more awesome!

I mean the funniest line ever is where Luke, Leia & Han r about 2 get smashed by the garbage walls so he tells 3 po 2 have R2 shut it down, so when R2 does they r all cheering & C-3 po is like
"Oh listen 2 them R2, THEY'RE DYING! i was too slow!"

well..ill say i enjoyed them all..but indeed the first 3 movies Episode 4,5&6 were different and i think that was due to the stories being more CHARACTER driven, the newer ones, due to the imporvements of digital technology seem to be more driven by what ILM & George can do with the animations, world creation..etc..and so.. sometimes the character development suffered, this is not to take anything away from the sheer creative imagination of Lucas and the ILM team of course,
totally loved what they did with Yoda..he had become an "actor" in the movies rather than simply an "animation" Ewan Mcgregor did a fantastic job as Obi-wan..not only in these first 3 movies..but i felt he conveyed the essence of the "original" Obi-wan....anyhoo..thats my 3 cents..hmmm...i think im gonna go see it again...

Ditto, I'm thinkin tomorrow. Anyway, my spill is this: 4,5 & 6 were classics and always will be. They suffered because their budget wasn't spectacular in the beginning and they didn't have the technology we have now. The lightsaber battles back then were less than epic, very slow and hesitant, the choreography less than perfect by a long shot. That didn't take away from the movies, though, they still were amazing, especially for when they were made. Truly epic. The story line was involving, and it's probably in the top ten nerd-creating forces in the world today.

Episodes 1,2 and 3 were obviously better by sheer technology, but that still left some things to be wanted: The acting wasn't always convincing, and sometimes it seemed like the producers were having too much fun with things and not trying to extend a legend. However, I would like to remind some of you that much of the storyline was created at the same time or before 4, 5 and 6 came out. Yes, there were major pieces missing back then, but the general idea was in place a LONG time ago. All in all, I think the story line was still far better than your average, especially compared to other sci-fi flicks. The acting wasn't perfect, but certain characters did amazing jobs (Obi-Wan in 3 especially). The story line, I think, is very much connected now, and everything is falling into place. Of course, if you want to know the little details, ya gotta' read the books. But such is to be expected, they couldn't fit all of a universe into 6 movies.

Anyway, there's been rumors that Lucas is working on 7, 8 and 9, but they've been pretty much stomped out by Lucas Arts and company. Personally, I hope that they don't do any more episodes--we've got enough, and if he creates any more he's likely to just make more people hate them then he's going to make like them. And there's not really any open ends to tie off--just more strings to tie onto the ends. And there's enough of that already.

Um i didn't read through all of that...i got bord.
But I WIN
I'V SEEN IT THREE TIMES ALREADY!!! HURRAY FOR ME!!!!
not once not twice...but 3! & i'm going again w/david 2morrow which makes it 4!

4 5 & 6 still the best!

I'd say that Sith is better than Return of the Jedi, but A New Hope and Empire are still far and away the best.

Originally posted by bradybaker
I'd say that Sith is better than Return of the Jedi, but A New Hope and Empire are still far and away the best.

Thats just what i thought, but not \"far and away\" the best...

Originally posted by Girismyleader



Um i'm 17 years old & i like the 3 old movies better. 4 5 & 6 r way more awesome!

i forgot the word "most"

perfect.....just perfect. although i agree that the new hope and the empire strikes back are the proof that God exists and loves us by making such masterwork art pieces, but the revenge of the sith is still perfect!