Thread: PS3 vs. 360, which one??

Pfft, PS3 is far inferior to Xbox360 concerning games and gameplay experience.

Red ring of death is not a problem if you buy a newer console and keep it appropriately ventilated.

Final Fantasy XIII is coming out for Xbox360 too this year, so huff puff on whoever didn't mention it would.

Seriously, without a bloody doubt, X360 takes the win completely, regional issues are hardly a problem. Blueray is really the only thing I have used PS3 for, everything else sucks, especially user interfaces and controllers. Graphics have always seemed lessser imo in comparison to the X360.

Originally Posted by mindwanderer

rabble rabble rabble... feeble arguing... mines bigger than yours... no mines better... no... no... mines way better... shut-up.... no your's sucks.

What does all this retarded rambling and arguing get you? Who cares? Everyday my faith in humanity dwindles... we already argue over religion, race, politics, land, money... naaaw... that's not enough is it? Lets spends hours a day arguing over trivial garbage like who made the better investment on systems that only differ subjectively. I'm disguisted that you guys even care... I know I shouldn't judge... and it's a dumb thing that I even care that you guys care.... but I've got to say it.

Fanboys are worse than nazis. Nazi had religion, politics, and a charismatic leader at their back... what do you have? Your egos? Put all this wasted energy into something fruitious. Build something, destroy something, make someone smile, make someone cry... just make a goddamn difference no matter what it is.

Gaaah.... what am I doing... nobody is listening (emo tear) and whoever is doesn't care. Meh... it was worth a shot I suppose.

well isn't that the point of the thread, to make people choose a system based on facts?...someone is too emotional


plus like I said earlier, I grew up with ps1 when it came out back in 1995ish when i was a kid, played it up until 2002ish then got a ps2 and played that still to this day, I still play ps1 and ps2 frequently and so naturally i wanted to see how ps3 was and im lucky i went for ps3 because i would have returned 360 within a few days of buying it back in 2007

Most of my friends back home have 360's but i wouldn't budge and went for ps3 instead, you can call me whatever you choose but to me in my mind and in my experience, I have WAY more fun playing ps3 than playing 360, and to me thats really all that matters...which system is more fun?

for me its ps3, I get to watch all my blu ray movies, I get to watch ripped divx films also, I can surf the web and listen to music while waiting for friends to start up a match of killzone 2...and then i proceed to spend 12+ hours having major fun.

I duno but to me, that sounds like ps3 is a winner FOR ME at least.

What ever happened to respecting others opinions and just silently nodding your head and saying okay that's fine with me

don't get me wrong, I don't hate 360 gamers or 360 itself, i just don't prefer using that system that's all, i prefer the alternative and to me thats okay that you play halo...it is a FUN game, and fun is what counts...not graphics, not audio quality...but FUN NESS

I have played gears of war 2 on 360 and enjoyed it quite a bit, almost as much as I enjoy call of duty...that might be the only game worth buying 360 for ME, the other games which attract me are left 4 dead 2 since my pc cant handle it, and mass effect 2.

There are a good number of decent games on 360 i'd like to have but, to me its not enough to sway me over to buy one, not to mention im BROKE! lol...

one day when im more well monetarily versed i might buy one, just for a few games though......screw boring rpgs.

my 360 game list to play would be:

GOW
GOW2
Halo Reach
Forza perhaps
l4d1 and 2
mass effect 1 and 2
metal gear solid (the new one coming out soon)

and maybe a few others, but to me final fantasy and others like that have 0 interest to me, i remember playing FF7 on ps1 and hating it like crazy cause you have to select stupid attack commands to attack instead of a free battle style like 3rd person shooters.

My post wasn't really directed to you guerilla... we already had our feud >

oh I know i was just trying to clarify that i do NOT hate 360 or its users lol...

Originally Posted by guerilla

oh I know i was just trying to clarify that i do NOT hate 360 or its users lol...

Unfortunately MGS5 will be multi-platform, so let's hope they are not lazy and make a quick porting. But, my question would be why would you want to buy MGS5 for the Xbox?

Originally Posted by Jorge

Unfortunately MGS5 will be multi-platform, so let's hope they are not lazy and make a quick porting. But, my question would be why would you want to buy MGS5 for the Xbox?

You mean MGS4 right?

No I meant MGS5, I was referring to what guerilla's post where he stated he would get MGS5 (when it came out) on the Xbox.

Originally Posted by guerilla

...my 360 game list to play would be:

GOW
GOW2
Halo Reach
Forza perhaps
l4d1 and 2
mass effect 1 and 2
metal gear solid (the new one coming out soon)

and maybe a few others...

Originally Posted by slayer

You mean MGS4 right?

That's what I was referring to slayer. Since MGS5 is going to be multi-platform, I didn't understand why he would want to buy it on the xbox. That's what I was wondering.

MGS5 on multiplatform? That's quite funny, since MGS is known to be a series which you have to play through all the other games to enjoy it completely. So if you did played all the games you obviously have already have a PS3. Except if you borrow it to a friend or something, anyway.

I always was a PS fan and a Xbox hater, with reasons, and after reading all the posts here I think it's fairly obvious that PS3 > Xbox. I think Carou already said everything you need to make up your mind =)

Originally Posted by Sora

MGS5 on multiplatform? That's quite funny, since MGS is known to be a series which you have to play through all the other games to enjoy it completely. So if you did played all the games you obviously have already have a PS3. Except if you borrow it to a friend or something, anyway.

I always was a PS fan and a Xbox hater, with reasons, and after reading all the posts here I think it's fairly obvious that PS3 > Xbox. I think Carou already said everything you need to make up your mind =)

Yes, that's true with the Metal Gear Solid Series but that was for Solid Snake and his series. There taking the game to a new direction with a new character (Raiden) so it will most likely be a completely new story where new gamers can join in and follow.

actually carou selectively left out a lot of points which i covered through the rest of the thread. by that time it was already too late though, cause she fell for his trap >_<

The reason i'd get the new Metal Gear rising game on 360 is because from what I've read its a 360 exclusive, and that ps3 will get its own seperate game exclusive, i saw it on my game informer mag a few months back.

Originally Posted by Jorge

Unfortunately MGS5 will be multi-platform, so let's hope they are not lazy and make a quick porting. But, my question would be why would you want to buy MGS5 for the Xbox?

I wouldn't worry, hideo kojima is ocd when it comes to quality, they would never port to ps3 to some 3rd party douchebags like ea does.

What most multiplatforms do today is make the game in 360 because they seem to not understand how to code for the ps3 even though naughty dog codes for ps3 perfectly along with guerilla games coding for ps3 perfectly fine.

EA is lazy and other companies who outsource porting for ps3 versions should have their balls squashed by a 800 pound sumo wrestler's feet.

If they want to do a quick and dirty port instead of a proper like call of duty 5 and 6 they should not bother making a port altogether if they will half ass it.

I applaud infinity ward for porting 360 call of duty to ps3 PERFECTLY, every other company MUST follow infinity wards formula of TAKING YOUR TIME when porting games and testing framerates extensively...

EA and many other companies just port, and if the game runs at 15 fps thats good enough for their lazy profiteering asses.

Then they go on magazines and claim the ports were bad because ps3 is bad, not because their half-assed lazy no effort ports.

dude, it's not the developers faults.. it's sony's fault for making the system so hard to design for.

its not hard to design for actually, theres like 2 dozen developers who made games for ps3 and they look fine to me, in the BEGINNING they had trouble but once the devs learned the spu's they were just fine, they said it themselves thats its a little tricky but overall not that bad.

Stop exaggerating dude.

It's not like coding for the ps3 is so hard you need to call in nasa engineers, gimme a break its a console with a cpu with a few spus attached, any monkey with 6 months can figure out how to code for it, unless their head is up their ass, or maybe they have 2 brain cells.

The bloods and the crips are sooo 1994.

EDIT: Whoops, a few pages too late.

Holy crap! MGS4 is coming out for the Xbox!? Day=Made. This is awesome! Now I don't have to waste my money on a PS3. It's kind of funny actually. Back when MGS4 was released, all the gaming community said this would happen eventually

mgs4 wont be on 360, who ever said that?

mgs FIVE will be.

50 gigs wont fit on a dvd today, tomorrow or next century.

(actually mgs4 is MORE than 60 gigs compressed onto the disc)

you need literally 20 dvds for mgs4...

sorry to burst your bubble, even hideo kojima said it himself mgs4 will remain an exclusive, but metal gear RISING will be 360, but then again the game will only be about 6 gigs.

and MGR will be raiden not solid snake, so its totally different thing, sorry again to burst your bubble, if you want mgs4 you need a ps3.

If you guys don't believe me read a local game informer magazine yourself, hideo stated himself on Game informer that only metal gear rising will be making an appearance on the xbox, and he would not make the effort to port such a massive game to such a tiny format such as dvd. (by the port i mean metal gear solid 4 guns of the patriots NOT mg rising)

the 360 metal gear should be interesting, the graphics will be a slight touch less impressive than mgs4 but hideo promised to squeeze as much as he can from the xbox which you can't squeeze it enough to match ps3's graphical capabilities.

Originally Posted by guerilla

its not hard to design for actually, theres like 2 dozen developers who made games for ps3 and they look fine to me, in the BEGINNING they had trouble but once the devs learned the spu's they were just fine, they said it themselves thats its a little tricky but overall not that bad.

Stop exaggerating dude.

It's not like coding for the ps3 is so hard you need to call in nasa engineers, gimme a break its a console with a cpu with a few spus attached, any monkey with 6 months can figure out how to code for it, unless their head is up their ass, or maybe they have 2 brain cells.

you don't know what you're talking about.. i've seen tons of developers rant about how shitty the ps3 is to design for, on forums and blogs and press conferences etc etc.. it's a well known fact outside of the sony fanboy community.

Originally Posted by Tarsier

you don't know what you're talking about..

This is the most funniest thing he's ever said.

Because everybody KNOWS your such an expert

all joking aside, what i said was the truth.

Tarsier dammit Shortly after I made the thread I already said that I actually HAVE NO CHOICE between consoles anyway because of REGION CODES in the xbox. So there were no "traps" or "wrong choice"s in any case waaarrgghhdsfkghdfg.


Anyway after considering all of the points made in this thread and elsewhere, even if I did have the choice, I think the ps3 would be the way to go for me. The selection of games interest me more, among other things.

But I definitely agree with those who say that comparing the two is not too far from splitting hairs, because in the end, with the right game, either console can be highly enjoyed.

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

in the end, with the right game, either console can be highly enjoyed.

I think Ghandi said that, word for word first Mes.

Originally Posted by Tarsier

dude, it's not the developers faults.. it's sony's fault for making the system so hard to design for.

Lol obvious troll is obvious

~

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

Alright, children, quiet down. I'm here to settle this. And you know you can trust me.

There is not one overall winner in this particular console war, HOWEVER there are contextual winners, and for the most part the PS3 comes out on top.


Why? You may ask. Well, if we had this thread 1 year ago then it would have been the Xbox 360 as a nobrainer. However the world of gming has dramatically changed since then, and now it's become almost entirely the opposite.

Let's start the analysis by looking at Exclusive games. Now these are games which are ONLY available on one system. We use the term "Multiplatform" for games available on both. So here I'm going to compare the top exclusives for both systems.

Spoiler for A note on Xbox Exclusives:

An interesting not when talking about exclusives for the Xbox 360, is that nearly all the top 360 games can actually be bought for the PC, because Microsoft are hesitant to restrict their market. What this means is that top 360 exclusives such as gears of war or Mass Effect can actually be played on a decent PC, with FREE online. Whereas on the console you have to pay, as I'm sure you've heard.

The most recent games of course we are in now a good position to evaluate. So let's look at the TOP REVIEWED exclusive games for the year 2009:

Now Firstly I'm going to give you the exclusive Games with a METACRITIC score of 85+ from each platform.

According to Metacritic, for 2009:

Xbox 360:
Forza Motorsport 3 [92% Good Reviews]

Now the only other contender is Left 4 Dead 2, however considering it is primarily a PC game, it should not truly be counted as an exclusive.

PS3:
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves [96% Good Reviews]
Killzone 2 [92% Good Reviews]
God of War Collection [91% Good Reviews]
Demon's Souls [89% Good Reviews]
InFAMOUS [85% Good Reviews]
Ratchet and Clank Future: A Crack In Time [87% Good Reviews]



So combining this result with multiplatforms, for 2009 the board was essentially sweeped by Sony. Not to mention that previously 360 exclusive titles are consistently coming to PS3, with added features: see Vesperia, Star Ocean, Liberty City Stories.



OK, So that's GAMES for 2009. What about upcoming games? How is 2010 Looking to shape up?

Well it's much more even than last year's essential massacre, However I still feel the PS3 comes out on top.

So here are good looking either confirmed or basically confirmed exclusives for 2010:

Xbox 360:
Mass Effect 2 [This is already out now, and having played it I can say it's a great game.]
Alan Wake
Bioshock 2
Crackdown 2
Halo: Reach
Fable 3
Demons of Mercy
Super Star

PS3:
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Gran Turismo 5
Heavy Rain [My personal most anticipated game of the year]
The Last Guardian
White Knight Chronicles 2
God of War 3
MAG
Agent
Yakuza 3
Yakuza 4
Twisted Metal
Resistance 3
Starhawk


Now, you may think in terms of quantity these lists look alot closer, which indeed is the case. But let me explain why I feel the PS3 list is the better, and why it will appeal more personally to YOU Mes. Also you Nina.


Let's run through 2010 exclusives one more time, this time considering the style of game:

Xbox 360:
Mass Effect 2 [Sci Fi RPG]
Alan Wake [Horror]
Bioshock 2 [Undersea Shooter Horror]
Crackdown 2 [3rd Person Shooting Madness]
Halo: Reach [First Person Shooter]
Fable 3 [Fantasy RPG]
Demons of Mercy [Action(little yet known)]

So what are the trends: Shooting and RPG basically is the deal here.

Now the PS3 list is actually far more interesting, and revolutionary, whilst as you can see the 360 list is stale status quo gaming. (Just look at all them sequels).

PS3:
Final Fantasy Versus XIII [Final Fantasy, you know the drill]
Gran Turismo 5 [Racing]
Heavy Rain [Practically an interactive and mature movie. The first of it's kind and likely to revolutionise the way we consider Video Games]
The Last Guardian [From team Ico, makers of Shadow of the Collosus, this game looks to be equally unidentifiable, you play as a small boy who befriends a giant Griffin-Like creature:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4E0e-ZCn14]
White Knight Chronicles 2 [Fantasy RPG]
God of War 3 [Hack nd Slash
MAG [First Person Shooter of unprecedented scale: 256 players in a battle at once]
Agent [Adventure]
Yakuza 3 [Sandbox Adventure]
Yakuza 4 [Sandbox Adventure]
Twisted Metal [Racing]
Resistance 3 [First Person Shooter]
Starhawk[Aerial Combat]


Now you must see the difference here. PS3 certinly has it's share of shooters and RPG, but it is alsogoing beyond that this year. Games like MAG, which revolutionises FPS, games like Heavy Rain, which revolutionise gaming, Games like The Last Guardian, which are one of the few instances video games can be considered art.


So as is undeniable, unless you're a shooting loving 13 year old, is that the PS3 is as of now the better choice, without a doubt. This isn't even to mention the pre-2009 games [Metal Gear Solid 4, widely regarded as one of the greatest endings to a series ever].


Now on the other hand, if you do mainly enjoy what you're used to in video games, so shooting and bland fantasy adventures, then choose a 360, because you'll honestly be happier.


OK. So that is games.

What about hardware, other features? Well it's known that the PS3 is the higher-powered piece of kit, due to it's cell processor. It also takes blu-ray discs. What this practically means is that FAR more information can be stored on a disc for a PS3. A good example is Final Fantasy XIII, which is on One disc for the PS3, and 3 discs for the Xbox [even with reduced content].

PS3 has FREE online play, inbuilt WiFi, default wireless controllers, easily chargeable. The Hard Drive is replacable with a typical laptop hardrive, so you can easily upgrade your space.

The Xbox 360 has subscription payed online features, Wired and wireless controllers, and WiFi etc needs to bought seperately from microsoft, at an absurd price.


AN IMPORTANT NOTE REGARDING XBOX 360 HARDWARE: The Xbox is INFAMOUS for it's so called "Red Ring of Death" which can happen any time, and renders the console useless. The current estimated failure rates for the Xbox 360 are as high as "54.2%". Which frankly is absolutely ridiculous. http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/176741.asp

The editor of the leading gaming news website Kotaku.com has himself admitted to having SEVEN xboxes break down so far. Which honestly is absolutely ridiculous, PARTICULARLY for such a shoddy service in the first place.



OK, so we've seen hardware, PS3 won, We've seen Games, PS3 won. The only last thing is PRICE.

Now the PS3 used to be awful here. With a $600 release price it was a disgrace and this is the reason it failed to launch early on in it's lifespan. However last September Sony radically reduced the price of the PS3 and gave it a new model: The PS3 Slim. Now this is as low as $250 on sale new.

The Xbox 360 was always about this price, and now can be got at $199. However when you add on to the retail price the cost of extras that are included with the PS3, such as a Wireless adaptor and online subscription, The Xbox 360 comes out as MORE expensive than the PS3.



So the PS3 at this point in it's life is better in every respect than the Xbox 360.

If you want to play online by the way, you'll find yourself amongst more players of your own age on the PLaystation Network. Surveys have shown the typical age of Playstation owners as consistently higher than 360 owners.

The classic idea of age goes as thus: Wii for ages 0-12, Xbox 360 for ages 12-18, PS3 for ages 18+.

This is also reflected in the games. Wii goes for cartoony happy games, 360 goes for mindless shooting, and PS3 goes for interesting generally "movie-like" games.

Also Xbox LIVE [the xbox online network] Is one of the most horrible places to play ever. I know this from experience, there is a ridiculous amount of foul mouthed 13 years olds, it's frustrating. PSN is significantly better in my experience. Less people have mics, but all that really means is less kids screaming at you.



And finally, the most important aspect is that since I sold my 360 and bought a gaming PC to replace it I only play PS3, and so if either of you buy a PS3, you can play online with me :3


So in short, PS3, there never was another choice. [Also yeah, PS3 games are region free Mes, and far more prevalent in your part of the world]




EDIT: also Blu Ray movies are wonderful, and really should be experienced if you have a HD tv. There's a VAST difference between Blu Ray and DVD. It's one step closer to actually being there, really.

Quoted for relevance.