Thread: ABORTION: Where do you stand?

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

I voted no children/pro-choice, but that doesn't explain how I view the issue fully. Once a fetus is viable outside the womb I think the best choice would be to keep it alive. If unwanted, adoption would be the best. I have no qualms about abortion during early pregnancy, however.

Alright. So what if I get pregnant and end up giving birth extremely early, let's say at about 20 weeks. Now, that "fetus" is certainly not viable outside of my womb, and even with medical intervention there's a large chance that it would die. Should I have the option of simply throwing it away, because it was not viable?

Originally Posted by buriedmonsters

Alright. So what if I get pregnant and end up giving birth extremely early, let's say at about 20 weeks. Now, that "fetus" is certainly not viable outside of my womb, and even with medical intervention there's a large chance that it would die. Should I have the option of simply throwing it away, because it was not viable?

Yes.

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

Yes.

So how do you justify that from a simple humane perspective?

Originally Posted by buriedmonsters

So how do you justify that from a simple humane perspective?

I don't have to. You gave birth to a 20-week-old fetus that has no chance of surviving.

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

I don't have to. You gave birth to a 20-week-old fetus that has no chance of surviving.

It certainly does have a chance of surviving! As I said, not a large chance, but a chance all the same. So how do you justify not giving that "fetus" it's chance at life?

Originally Posted by buriedmonsters

So how do you justify not giving that "fetus" it's chance at life?

Why bother? There are enough of us. To use Xei's example, how do you justify me not knocking up a girl every weekend to give a new baby a chance at life?

Originally Posted by buriedmonsters

It certainly does have a chance of surviving! As I said, not a large chance, but a chance all the same. So how do you justify not giving that "fetus" it's chance at life?

Under what obligation do I have to give it a chance?

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

Under what obligation do I have to give it a chance?

Well, most people that I've met have the opinion that we should not just kill humans because they don't have a great chance at life. But if that's not your opinion, I'm interested in knowing why.

Originally Posted by buriedmonsters

So how do you justify that from a simple humane

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perspective?

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so what's wrong with murder.
serious question.

I say that losing that persons experiences and love memories and and other persons experiences and love for that person and everything they've done in the past is an absolute tragedy. absolutely awful.

but none of these things apply to a fetus. not one. there is nothing redeeming about a fetus except future prospects it might have. which also happen to apply to every single other sperm/egg combo we have on earth.

I don't classify abortion as murder, and by extension I do not classify fetuses as full humans.

No strong opinion either way really. On one hand, earth is already overpopulated. On the other hand what if it were me?

No strong opinion.

three months maximum, and I'm ok. more than three months... well if you didn't want the damn baby why the hell didn't you abort it earlier than three months?

(i know this is a really light response but i'll debate if someone attacks my viewpoint)