He isn't believing anything. |
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I have a child, and I am Pro-Life.
I have a child, and I am Pro-Choice.
I have no children, and I am Pro-Life.
I have no children, and I am Pro-Choice.
Undecided
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He isn't believing anything. |
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So then don't claim with certainty that souls exist and that without them, life is worthless, if that can't be "physically proven," whatever that means. |
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The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended. - Frédéric Bastiat
I try to deny myself any illusions or delusions, and I think that this perhaps entitles me to try and deny the same to others, at least as long as they refuse to keep their fantasies to themselves. - Christopher Hitchens
Formerly known as BLUELINE976
Anyone want a beer from the fridge, while I'm up? |
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BLAH. I'm not debating if souls are real with you or not, at least not right now, I lack the patience for it. You can't prove your point and I can't prove mine. You are free to believe that you are a slightly more intelligent animal with no purpose, except for the magical one you somehow give to yourself. |
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Last edited by ♥Mark; 05-25-2011 at 02:23 AM.
Your assertions: Purpose can only come from God. Humans have souls. |
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Here's the thing. Personal experiences count for jack shit. If you want to be taken seriously, you'll have to prove it. 'kay? Kay. |
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I never claimed to have proof, now did I? I simply said this is my thought, and you are free to have yours. As I've said before, it's okay if we disagree. I'm not interested in trying to make everyone agree with me. |
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This explains a lot, and demonstrates your massive incomprehension of evolution. |
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Here's the thing...I didn't say anything about memories in the womb! Pan did. Sooo...ask them to prove it. 'Kay? |
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This is no word game, as there is a difference between what one believes to be true and what one can demonstrate to be true. |
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The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended. - Frédéric Bastiat
I try to deny myself any illusions or delusions, and I think that this perhaps entitles me to try and deny the same to others, at least as long as they refuse to keep their fantasies to themselves. - Christopher Hitchens
Formerly known as BLUELINE976
Oh honey, I'm not here to argue the existence of the Creator with you. I'm glad it explains a lot for you though. |
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Last edited by ♥Mark; 05-25-2011 at 02:23 AM.
that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. But wow, you're one to talk of ignorance. |
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The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended. - Frédéric Bastiat
I try to deny myself any illusions or delusions, and I think that this perhaps entitles me to try and deny the same to others, at least as long as they refuse to keep their fantasies to themselves. - Christopher Hitchens
Formerly known as BLUELINE976
So far looking at this thread, though, it seems a lot of the pro-choicers are ok with abortion way longer into the pregnancy than I would draw the line (I'd draw it at when the first signs of consciousness appear; I don't think there's a definite answer of when exactly that is, so at the moment I'd have the line at the end of the first trimester until we get a better idea of when that point is). I'd also support considering abortion after that point as murder, legally. I think (I could be wrong) a lot of pro-choicers would have a problem with that, so I dont generally refer to myself as pro-choice even though I am to some extent. |
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Philosophic burden of proof - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia According to that, I think I have lived up to the "burden of proof". Your turn. You have made a claim that you find nothing wrong with aborting a 20 week old fetus. Now prove to me that that fetus has no soul, and therefore you are aborting nothing but a mass of cells |
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Last edited by ♥Mark; 05-25-2011 at 02:22 AM.
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No, you haven't. We're all waiting for the evidential support of the following: the claim that souls exist and that they give meaning and purpose to life. I don't know if you've every been in an argument before, but saying "X is Y, X is Y, X is Y" over and over doesn't work. The onus is on you. |
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The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended. - Frédéric Bastiat
I try to deny myself any illusions or delusions, and I think that this perhaps entitles me to try and deny the same to others, at least as long as they refuse to keep their fantasies to themselves. - Christopher Hitchens
Formerly known as BLUELINE976
Exactly, it's MY opinion. Basically everyone you run across will have a reason they are better than you, and who is to say they are wrong? How in the hell are we supposed to classify how valuable people are, we have no unbiased opinions. This brings us back to life needing to be valued simply because it is life. |
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This thread is bordering on the ridiculous. |
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The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended. - Frédéric Bastiat
I try to deny myself any illusions or delusions, and I think that this perhaps entitles me to try and deny the same to others, at least as long as they refuse to keep their fantasies to themselves. - Christopher Hitchens
Formerly known as BLUELINE976
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Well, as far as I can tell, animals don't have souls, but I'm honestly open to the idea. But btw, I've been a vegetarian for the last 10 years. Saying I ate chicken for dinner was not a literal example...actually I have yet to eat dinner at all. |
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