Thread: Do you think 9/11 was staged?

Originally Posted by cmind

This is the truth.

Anyway, it's pretty obvious that 9/11 wasn't staged beyond the level of MAYBE the CIA knowing about it and not telling anyone.

Oreinonaut: I don't think you get it. The US government and other governments around the world have murdered millions of people and enslave billions and no one seems to care. They carpet bombed Europe and killed millions. They enslaved hundreds of thousands to fight their wars overseas. They put people in rape cages for not paying tribute. How much more fucking obvious does it need to be for you?

You misunderstand.

I get this. I do. The point that I'm trying to make is that, when this kind of shit is done, it is done in away that is tailored so that it seems like it's a necessity. Those who aren't completely fucking blind can see it. (You; I...) However, the fact that it is so easily explained away as 'collateral damage' keeps it among the realm of 'that which isn't truly exposed.' Maybe I'm being kind of technical here, but that's the way I see it. The reason that people don't care is because - for whatever reasons - they have found ways to explain away the atrocities that they are aware of, as 'Greater Good' solutions, instead of intrinsically malicious acts. Xei is interchanging the exposure of obvious self-defense measures, with what would happen if the population discovered that the government is willingly killing thousands of its citizens, in order to dupe the people into a premeditated war.

Call me crazy, but I think the two revelations would provoke different reactions, among the American people.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Xei is interchanging the exposure of obvious self-defense measures, with what would happen if the population discovered that the government is willingly killing thousands of its citizens, in order to dupe the people into a premeditated war.

Call me crazy, but I think the two revelations would provoke different reactions, among the American people.

Obviously, but that's their fault.

My only point is that it's pretty bizarre that the US can hold all these services for these 'innocent people who will always be remembered' when the reaction was to kill even more Americans.

And it's pretty abhorrent that the US can put the hundredfold greater death toll of civilians that it caused to the very back of its mind. Not Americans; not important.

Originally Posted by Xei

Obviously, but that's their fault.

My only point is that it's pretty bizarre that the US can hold all these services for these 'innocent people who will always be remembered' when the reaction was to kill even more Americans.

And it's pretty abhorrent that the US can put the hundredfold greater death toll of civilians that it caused to the very back of its mind. Not Americans; not important.

Whiule this is a good point, it's not even the take-away shocker. You think its hypocritical to honor 3000 dead by killing (far more than) hundreds of thousands more? No one disagrees 9/11 was used for far worse atrocities than 9/11 itself. But it's almost a drop in the bucket considering how nefarious and cruel our government has actually been on the issue. Even with the Official Story thrown out, meaning 9/11 has no official report as of now, it's still considered callous and unpatriotic to question the "official story," which is an act of war against accountability in government. Furthermore, people trying to get medical help for breathing in toxins digging through the rubble have had to fight for over 10 years now to get the help they need. Our politicians love using the tragedy to gain support but won't lift a finger to help the actual heroes. Even after they finally managed to get the bill through Congress that would help the 9/11 heroes, the included legislation that still fucked them over in the end. For one, just to rub salt on the wound and prove they'd cause 9/11 all over again if they had the chance, they made the people receiving medical care prove they weren't terrorists. Secondly, the bill doesn't cover cancer because they may have gotten their cancer somewhere else other than breathing in toxins every day for up to a year. In any possible way, our politicians have weaseled out of their responsibility to justice and the american people. In every possible way, they have been the real terrorists. Not only did they create an atmosphere where terrorist attacks are more likely, they shifted this country radically in the direction of a police state. They usurped our democracy.