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      Stephen Lawrence Murder

      For those of you that don't know about this boy, he was a Black British teenager from SE London who was murdered in a racial attack while waiting for a bus in 1993.

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      Video: Stephen Lawrence murder: damning video that led to the conviction of Gary Dobson and David Norris - Telegraph


      What is it that makes people hate other races?

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      People hate other races because of natural tribalism.

      Also a racist murder commited by whites almost 20 years ago gets intense publicity now, whereas constant racially motivated attacks by blacks in the same fucking city go ignored and treated as non racist "youth violence" when they are indeed racist in nature. Racist apparently only applies to the majority.
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      Wait... are you saying blacks are attacking whites in London because they're white and that the blacks aren't getting punished?

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      This was a murder that would not have happened, had this country not been a multi-racial country. Trillions of pounds wasted, millions of lifes affected, thousands of lives lost.


      Edit: Omnis Dei, yes that does happen, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-violence.html
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      People with the same skin colour cannot attack each other, correct? ^

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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnis Dei View Post
      Wait... are you saying blacks are attacking whites in London because they're white and that the blacks aren't getting punished?
      When did he say anything about punishment? He said it's not considered racially motivated. It happens here in the US too. Not in every case obviously. And I'm not saying that all or even most black on white(what an awful term) crimes are racially motivated. I think a lot of it just has to do with white people being more sterile and weak. We're easy targets(sometimes, obviously like with any statement about race it's a massive generalization).
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      For centuries, white people considered it fact that they were better than other races. Now that other races refuse to fall into this complex, a percentage of white people feel disenfranchised by the changing times and lash back. This is what makes it racially motivated, in my opinion.

      But I'll admit, I see it go both ways. And I do consider other races besides whites to be capable of racism. Mexicans target black people in gang neighborhoods in order to free up more space for Mexicans. These racially motivated crimes are not taken nearly as seriously as racially motivated crimes by whites. This I can admit, but I believe most attacks on white people by minorities are financially motivated, though that goes hand in hand with racism based on the assumption that white people are more likely to carry money. But my point is, I don't typically see a group of middle-class black people go out at night targeting white kids. I don't even see middle class black people in groups.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnis Dei View Post
      Wait... are you saying blacks are attacking whites in London because they're white and that the blacks aren't getting punished?
      Nope. Reread.

      In the US the black community is far more peacefully integrated than here in Europe. You have far more middle class blacks, in comparison to us.

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      Did you read my other post? My point is I don't see groups of middle class blacks going out and beating white kids. The groups of blacks that target whites live in poor neighborhoods, but the groups of whites beating blacks can often come from wealthy areas with parents that are respected by the community. That's why I think when whites do it, it's more likely to be racially motivated rather than economically motivated.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnis Dei View Post
      Did you read my other post? My point is I don't see groups of middle class blacks going out and beating white kids. The groups of blacks that target whites live in poor neighborhoods, but the groups of whites beating blacks can often come from wealthy areas with parents that are respected by the community. That's why I think when whites do it, it's more likely to be racially motivated rather than economically motivated.
      Yep didn't read your other post.

      Purely speaking from first hand experience, they aren't mutually exclusive, they are often both racially and economically motivated

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      This just in from the Twitter of Dianne Abbot, the most disgusting example of a British politician you'll ever encounter:

      ''White people love playing 'divide & rule' We should not play their game''.

      Hopefully she will be fired from the shadow cabinet... that will make my day.

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      There has been decades of propoganda about how evil white people are, and whites have it instilled into them how much they must love non-whites. Blacks have been taught have evil whites have been in history. Who do you think has more racial hatred.

      Multi racial societies themselves create racilly hostility. Those stephen lawrence killers lived in a very very racially diverse area. Many people have seen their comminites and lives ruined by multiculturalism, so increased anger is only to be expected. This killing need not have happened. When multiculturalism was first being introduced in europe in the 1960's they knew this thing would happen, but they thought it was a price worth paying to fulfil an ideological socially liberal dream.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      This just in from the Twitter of Dianne Abbot, the most disgusting example of a British politician you'll ever encounter:

      ''White people love playing 'divide & rule' We should not play their game''.

      Hopefully she will be fired from the shadow cabinet... that will make my day.
      I'd settle for Baroness Warsi being removed from the actual cabinet. She appears to be there not because of any political merit (not having won an election), or any particular expertise, only because she happens to be a Muslim woman.

      Ideally, both would be fired. But we can't always get what we want.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      This just in from the Twitter of Dianne Abbot, the most disgusting example of a British politician you'll ever encounter:

      ''White people love playing 'divide & rule' We should not play their game''.

      Hopefully she will be fired from the shadow cabinet... that will make my day.
      They should rename it the light cabinet, then she wouldn't be allowed.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Photolysis View Post
      I'd settle for Baroness Warsi being removed from the actual cabinet. She appears to be there not because of any political merit (not having won an election), or any particular expertise, only because she happens to be a Muslim woman.

      Ideally, both would be fired. But we can't always get what we want.
      It's true, Warsi is absolutely useless. Whenever she's on Question Time you can always count on her to say something horribly backward.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Carôusoul View Post
      Yep didn't read your other post.

      Purely speaking from first hand experience, they aren't mutually exclusive, they are often both racially and economically motivated
      Right, as I mentioned in my other post, assuming white people are good targets for mugging is racist. But it's not motivated by racism, it's motivated by poverty. Again, show me one article where a group of middle-class black people went out beating white kids.

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      You seriously think that all cases of blacks attacking whites will be for social reasons, whereas all cases of whites attacking blacks are for racial reasons?

      Before you say this is a blatant misinterpretation or something, please explain why in the above post you don't think a single such case will exist, yet you say that whites often do it.

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      I did explain this in this thread already. I suppose it's necessary to just quote the whole post over again

      For centuries, white people considered it fact that they were better than other races. Now that other races refuse to fall into this complex, a percentage of white people feel disenfranchised by the changing times and lash back. This is what makes it racially motivated, in my opinion.

      But I'll admit, I see it go both ways. And I do consider other races besides whites to be capable of racism. Mexicans target black people in gang neighborhoods in order to free up more space for Mexicans. These racially motivated crimes are not taken nearly as seriously as racially motivated crimes by whites. This I can admit, but I believe most attacks on white people by minorities are financially motivated, though that goes hand in hand with racism based on the assumption that white people are more likely to carry money. But my point is, I don't typically see a group of middle-class black people go out at night targeting white kids. I don't even see middle class black people in groups.
      Again, find one time where middle class blacks targeted white kids.

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      I don't need to provide that article, Dei.

      My point stands regardless. Many racially motivated attacks by blacks on whites occur. Lower class Blacks on Lower class whites or any other class. These are in many cases obviously racially motivated, but recieve less attention than the white on black racism. That simple.
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      It is not that simple. White kids with good homes and well off families get in mobs and go around beating up black kids for fun. Broke black kids with shitty housing and shitty income get in groups and mug white kids for money. There's a distinct difference here.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnis Dei View Post
      It is not that simple. White kids with good homes and well off families get in mobs and go around beating up black kids for fun. Broke black kids with shitty housing and shitty income get in groups and mug white kids for money. There's a distinct difference here.
      Sorry but no. I don't know where the fuck you live, but mobs of well off white kids DO NOT EVER go around looking to beat up black kids for fun. I live in London, and this NEVER happens.

      Broke black kids mug for money, but I wasn't just referring to money. I have personally known and seen racist attacks take place which aren't muggings. Assaults, rapes, etc. You've started talking about mugging, which changes things, but forget them, just talking about assaults. And they occur

      Not even sure what you're arguing now. I promise you, in this city, Black on white racist assault and non-theft crime takes place.

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      I am perfectly willing to withdraw my claim in the face of evidence that a white person has ever been attacked by a gang of wealthy black people. Until you can show me that, it's class warfare, not race warfare.

      If you like, I'll start looking up articles of well off white groups targeting minorities. There's literally thousands of cases.

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      Your whole point relies on the proposition that poor people are incapable of commiting racist violence, because it's always because of poverty if you're poor. This is a ludicrous proposition, and that should be obvious.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnis Dei View Post
      Again, find one time where middle class blacks targeted white kids.
      hehe, see.... this is the kind of thing that you really just cannot answer because you've never thought about it before and you don't have a whole catalogued stockpile of reports on crimes.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Carôusoul View Post
      Your whole point relies on the proposition that poor people are incapable of commiting racist violence, because it's always because of poverty if you're poor. This is a ludicrous proposition, and that should be obvious.
      That is not my point. My point is that poverty makes the situation more difficult to ascertain. I'm sure if I walked into certain neighborhoods I'd get killed just for being white and it doesn't have to mean they thought I had money. But when an attack is committed by an impoverished person, the lines are not clear. Meanwhile white people from good families form these cliques where they go out and commit hate crimes. Their neighborhood is fine, their living situation is fine, they just want the gratification of holding power over something like they used to generations ago.

      I expect impoverished neighborhoods to form gangs and for these gangs to have a certain malicious, even racist attitude. I never denied racism went along with it. But it's still not the same thing as a lynch mob of well off white people.

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