Thread: Architects & Engineers Discuss WTC No. 7

That cartoon alleges that they would all have to have known the level to which the conspiracy existed, if at all.

It also alleges that all demolition experts involved in said allegation would have reservations about keeping it a secret (and must be considered alongside the fact that many heinous conspiracies - which completely undermine what you and I might consider 'common morality' - have been carried out over the centuries. How long was the Tuskegee experiment kept secret? Operation Gladio? What? We are tryin to paint the picture that multi-faceted conspiracies simply 'don't happen' in reality? Is that what you're suggesting? Oh, but wait, this was Nine Eleven! It was the most [insert desired hyperbole here] conspiracy in history and could not (ignoring lack of reference) be kept secret! Contract killers are incapable of keeping such secrets, and first responders are too sharp to be deceived by such a rouse, while in the midst of a senory-overloading situation!

Forgive me if I don't take "well, if it would have been a conspiracy, somebody would have told by now" as a foolproof debunking of the theory. *shrug*

All that being said, though, it is a cute cartoon.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut Zero

That cartoon alleges that they would all have to have known the level to which the conspiracy existed, if at all.

It also alleges that all demolition experts involved in said allegation would have reservations about keeping it a secret (and must be considered alongside the fact that many heinous conspiracies - which completely undermine what you and I might consider 'common morality' - have been carried out over the centuries. How long was the Tuskegee experiment kept secret? Operation Gladio? What? We are tryin to paint the picture that multi-faceted conspiracies simply 'don't happen' in reality? Is that what you're suggesting? Oh, but wait, this was Nine Eleven! It was the most [insert desired hyperbole here] conspiracy in history and could not (ignoring lack of reference) be kept secret! Contract killers are incapable of keeping such secrets, and first responders are too sharp to be deceived by such a rouse, while in the midst of a senory-overloading situation!

Forgive me if I don't take "well, if it would have been a conspiracy, somebody would have told by now" as a foolproof debunking of the theory. *shrug*

All that being said, though, it is a cute cartoon.

I'm not sure how something like Tuskegee, which was first learned about about precisely because it was exposed by a whistleblower, is supposed to counter the comic.

Originally Posted by Jookia

No, I don't mean that. But even then, that doesn't mean you can fill up lack of knowledge with idiot guesses.

Your immediate labeling of 'idiot' guesses show how personal it is for you to not take anything against the official story seriously. If you're goin to immediately come out of the gate by insulting my intelligence over something like that (something which made perfect sense, by the way), then this exchange isn't going to last very long. I didn't say that X meant Y. I mean X leading to Z is something that should be investigated, as all evidence should.

[Allegations are not evidence.

Unless those allegations are made by a source you have faith in, yes?

I'd like a source for that.

It's in the video, which posts diagrams and clippings stating exactly that, which you are more than welcome to search for, yourself. That you aren't familiar with it doesn't give me a lot of confidence that you've put as much into 'looking through various 9/11 sites' as you've implied.

Did you read my post or just decide to post crackpot theories? All of your post is summed up as 'they didn't do X, which means that Y could've happened'.

What I mean is that if I have a theory like 'eggs explode when they're eaten after midnight', I can test that and prove it to be false, or true. Could you show me something like that? Something I can hypothetically prove wrong.

Something that You are going to test? How are you going to test something? I don't know exactly what you're looking for, really. Could you give me an example, as it pertains to 9/11?

Originally Posted by Xei

I'm not sure how something like Tuskegee, which was first learned about about precisely because it was exposed by a whistleblower, is supposed to counter the comic.

Aren't you a mathematician, Xei?
What question did I ask you, above? It was really pretty straight forward.

I asked you 'HOW LONG did it take for the Tuskegee experiment to come to public attention?' (paraphrase)

It took about FORTY YEARS.

How long has it been since 9/11?

So your implication of 'the fact that it hasn't come to light yet is evidence against it being conspiracy' is completely, utterly, ridiculously (stop me when you start to disagree) illogical.

And Jookia, I welcome the debate. I'm not trying to 'change anyone's mind' on a conclusion of whether or not it was a conspiracy. I'm simply trying to present that there is a lot more to some of the theories than some people (for whatever reason) are emotionally capable of even considering. That's all.