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      I think my allegation on Emily's 12/14 face book fund raising page hit the target. After I posted it, I got a reply

      01-24-13, 12:24 AM#52
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      Tell me who was so efficient to open a donation account in Credit Union for poor Emily and then set up a page in facebook the same day of her death? Even two hours before poice confimed the death?
      That facebook account does not exist, so why are you linking us to something that does not exist?
      This one does though and proves you are wrong. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Emili...175096?sk=info

      Woman Claims Her Daughter's Photo was used for a Sandy Hook Shooting Victim - Page 6
      I went to that url, the Emilie's fund raising page was disappeared. They found the flaw and disabled the site.

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      Katsung, this is the Emilie Parker Fund website:

      The Emilie Parker Art Connection | In Memory of Emilie Parker

      On the page is a home movie compilation. I want to know where in that compilation is the sister who looks identical to Emilie in the Obama photo. Nobody can tell me that.

      emilie parker obama.jpg
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      You can see her sister in several places, but you have to take into account that she looks younger in those videos. The only thing suspicious going on here, is that fact you don't realize that people look different depending on their age.

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      You are welcome to find me a picture of Madeline at a later age whenever you're ready. People claim that Madeline is in the Obama photo although the girl looks identical to Emilie, and nobody can find another picture of Madeline looking identical to Emilie.

      Isn't it strange that there is not a single frame with all three sisters at once in that video?
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      I believe that is all three of them in the video at 1:10. The two older ones dancing together and the youngest one is sitting in the background. So there you go, all three at once. Also we went over this, your vision isn't very good. When compared in side by side with other photos the girl with Obama looks far more like Madeline than Emilie.

      I am not sure if you are just not used to seeing blond girls so they all look the same to you, or you are being difficult on purpose because it creates a hole in your theory, but that girl with Obama definitely doesn't look identical to Emilie. It is clearly a different person and when you look at the photos, it is clearly Madeline.

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      That is not Samantha at 1:10. It is some girl sitting a few people down. The girl in the Obama photo looks so much like Emilie that there is a controversy over whether it is Emilie, and you have yet to find me any other photo of Madeline looking identical to Emilie. Don't worry. Nobody else on Earth can do it either. I have 20/20 vision, by the way.

      Why would I not be used to seeing blonde girls? Where do you think I live? I don't think they all look alike. For example, I don't think Madeline looks like Emilie.

      Let me know when you find that picture. I won't be holding my breath.

      Okay, this is the most recent picture of all of the supposed members of the Parker family. Get a hard look at Madeline's hair. Notice its texture, where it is parted, and how long it is. Do the same with Emilie.

      parker-family-pic.jpg

      Now look at the girl in front of Obama. Look at her hair texture, its length, and where it is parted. Also notice what she is wearing.

      parker obama.jpg

      Now tell me honestly... Which girl in the first photo has the same hair length, hair texture, hair part, and outfit as the girl in front of Obama?

      Also, can you explain where Madeline's and Samantha's legs are in the first photo?

      I want to remind you that the alleged father, Robbie Parker, is the guy who did this the day after the supposed massacre:



      Check out this bizarre Parker response:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fujlo1jCCcY

      Check this out too:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVRFYJJAw2Y

      They made a ton of money off people giving to the "Emilie Parker Fund." What's that about? What is that money supposed to do other than get them even richer? Do you sort of smell a scam yet?
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      They do not look the same. The girl with obama looks more like the girl on the left than the girl on the right. And the girl definitely doesn't look identical to the girl on the right. How can you say the one with Obama looks identical to the girl on the right? And why do you always use a two year old picture? Oh is it because they happened to be in the same dress, and that is the only thing that makes them look even remotely similar?
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      How carefully did you read my post? I think you need to read it again. You apparently missed a lot.

      I posted the most recent pick of the whole supposed family, and I explained in detail the similarities between the Obama girl and Emilie in the family picture. I mentioned hair part, hair texture, and hair length. You just added a new element too. Look at Emilie's build in your picture on the left and the build of the girl in the Obama picture. Both are Emilie.

      Also, Madeline's hair does not swerve. Emilie's does.
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      Alric, do police have the authority to pronounce people dead? Aren't shooting victims supposed to be taken to the hospital? Why were the bodies left in the school for so long? There weren't even ambulances right in front of the school. They were blocked in at the firehouse.



      That is one of the best points against the official story I have come across yet. The police did not have the authority to pronounce the kids dead. That is the job of medical professionals, who are supposed to try to save victims even when they really seem dead on the surface. Also, as the video title says, the triage was never used. They just left the dead bodies in the school for hours and hours without help from medical professionals, according to the official story, which is absurd. The hoaxers really screwed up on that. It was a botched hoax.
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      Notice how you didn't say anything about her actual face? You are talking about hair and stuff. Madeline has a more roundish head with Emilie a more oval shape. Madeline has a wider chin, and her nose is different as well. When you look at the close up of them, you can clearly see by the facial features that the girl with Obama is Madeline, not Emilie. Though you keep comparing hair, something that changes over the years. You have to look at their face.

      Also that video is not true. If a person is murdered a medical examiner often comes to a scene and that person can pronounce people dead, and the bodies are left where they are until they can record the crime scene(taking pictures and stuff). So it doesn't matter if the police have authority or not, since a medical examiner would of been called to the scene with them.

      Also it isn't true that no one was taken to the hospital. 3 people who were still alive but wounded were taken out, 2 of which later died at the hospital. Everyone else was already dead by the time help arrived.

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      Hair is very relevant, and I also mentioned body build. I posted the last supposed family photo taken of the Parkers and put it next to the Obama photo. There is supposed to be very little time between the two. Madeline did not have time to transform into Emilie's body double. The girls' chins and noses are very much alike. Some people question whether Madeline is just an earlier Emilie used in the photoshopping. The girl in the Obama photo looks just like Emilie did in her supposed last days.

      The medical examiner has no role until people are pronounced dead. The procedure is to try to save the people first, even when they appear dead. The cops can't just go, "Well, they look dead to me. Let's bring in the medical examiner." Instead, paramedics try to save the people.

      I didn't say nobody was taken to the hospital according to the official story. I said that the supposedly dead bodies were left in the school without paramedics ever getting to them, according to the official story. That's insane.

      One of the confusing issues in the Parker girls mystery is that Emilie was not a big smiler. Madeline was more prone to have that spunky, energetic smile. I can't find a picture of Emilie having that demeanor aside from the Obama photo (where she would have been extra excited), but if you pause this video at 1:11, you can see that general demeanor.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbx-mv0P5Ww


      I am going to pose this question again for whoever wants to answer it because I think the issue is so baffling: Where are Madeline's and Samantha's legs in this picture?

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      Here's another bizarre situation, among the very many. A mother discovered that her daughter's picture was used to represent a Sandy Hook supposed victim on several media sites, including ABC, although her daughter was alive in Georgia.



      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWyTLyqbhFw

      https://www.google.com/#q=lily+gaubert&safe=off
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      OMG you people are still talking about this.
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      That's a pretty good point, cmind. You just convinced me that the official Sandy Hook story is totally coherent and believable. However, this is interesting:



      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrKwfkUKmwc
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      Other people noticed that and have taken a screen shot.

      12/14/ facebook

      The page dated 12/14 until January when I copied the content then disappeared after I recommending it.

      12/15

      A new page appeared in same url sometime later(after January, I suppose) with the join date: 12/15.

      The article about Emilie’s fund raising.
      Sandy Hook: The Curious Case Of Emilie Parker | Opinion - Conservative
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      That's a pretty good point, cmind. You just convinced me that the official Sandy Hook story is totally coherent and believable.
      Why does it matter? What would it prove if it was all a hoax? That the state is a corrupt institution? We already know this. That they will use lies and propaganda to bend public opinion to their will? We already know this. That they steal from us and our unborn children to kill and enslave? We already know this.

      Why would it matter if they faked a shooting?

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      Quote Originally Posted by cmind View Post
      Why does it matter? What would it prove if it was all a hoax? That the state is a corrupt institution? We already know this. That they will use lies and propaganda to bend public opinion to their will? We already know this. That they steal from us and our unborn children to kill and enslave? We already know this.

      Why would it matter if they faked a shooting?
      Who is "we?" The masses do not know it. Even the people who do know those things don't know that the government has gone this far. It's a big deal. If everybody in the U.S. knew the truth about Sandy Hoax, the size of the U.S. government would drastically shrink in a hurry. We need that. When I think of Sandy Hoax, I think of big government. It is inevitably corrupt.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Who is "we?" The masses do not know it. Even the people who do know those things don't know that the government has gone this far. It's a big deal. If everybody in the U.S. knew the truth about Sandy Hoax, the size of the U.S. government would drastically shrink in a hurry. We need that. When I think of Sandy Hoax, I think of big government. It is inevitably corrupt.
      Oh, I see. THIS is the one that will wake people up.

      Ten Proven US Government Conspiracies, and why I still trust the Government. « Xenophilia (True Strange Stuff)

      Read that, and then pull your head out of your ass.

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      Quote Originally Posted by cmind View Post
      Oh, I see. THIS is the one that will wake people up.

      Ten Proven US Government Conspiracies, and why I still trust the Government. « Xenophilia (True Strange Stuff)

      Read that, and then pull your head out of your ass.
      Why do you want to act like a rude little orphan about this? You must know that I have a point. I was being civil. Can you do that?

      I agree with the article, except for the conclusion. I never said that 100% of the people in the government are corrupt. In fact, I have made the point that only small groups of government officials are involved in these things. Did you read where people kept saying that you can't get thousands of people to participate in such a conspiracy and I responded by saying there weren't that many people behind it? What I don't trust is a government with too much power over its people. It allows the psychos to have the means to pull things like Sandy Hoax. Understand?

      I didn't say that Sandy Hoax is "the one" that will wake up the public. I said that if the entire country knew about it, the size of the U.S. government would shrink. I am of course not counting on the masses to know the truth any time soon. I think eventually they will, but other things are going to happen to influence government shrinkage before then.

      Thank you for posting a list of government conspiracies that really did happen. I have posted them in this thread too, but some people might have missed them. If you agree that those conspiracies happened, which they in fact did, why do yo have a hard time accepting that Sandy Hoax happened?



      Watch the first few seconds of this:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVOXK...B275D66CE0553A
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      When they found a fund raising page on 12/14 was a flaw, they created some case like this one.
      Sandy Hook fundraising relief page created 3 days before shooting, Google search results confirm

      Friday, January 11, 2013
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      It's easy to create such a page at the purpose to prove "Alter the date is easy".
      Did the Robbie Parker's friend had motive to alter the page set up date?

      This information and other similar ones obviously were made by the "disinformation workshop" to cover up the flaw of Emilie's fund raising page. It was impossible for Mr. Parker doing all this on 12/14. The police blocked people to entering the school. They moved the dead people out at night. How could Robbie Parker confirm his daughter's death that day then to inform his friends in UTAH then to open a donation account in bank then to set up a fund raising page in facebook?

      They planned all this in advance, think it was natural that Mr. Parker should know Emilie's death right on that day. Only found it's impossible in practice.

      Watch the disinformation was issued in January, that's a later remedial measure to cover up the flaw.
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      Is this the girl in the Obama photo, or is it Madeline? emilie parker.jpg
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      ABC, CBS, NBC Admit No Assault Rifle Used at Sandy Hook

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      I think I now know what the very specific purpose of the hoax was. The 46 Senators Voted to Destroy Us? | Pakalert Press

      Now tell me... Why on Earth is that not a mainstream news media story?


      There is a really good Facebook page on Sandy Hoax, and it has new stuff being posted often. You can see stuff there that you are not likely to find anywhere else.

      https://www.facebook.com/HoaxAtSandyHook
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