FEMA Camps: City to Exile the Homeless; It’s not a Conspiracy Theory Anymore

[katsung47]

FEMA Camps: City to Exile the Homeless; It’s not a Conspiracy Theory Anymore Brandon Walker Prison Planet.com November 5, 2013 Under the radar from the prying eyes of the public, South Carolina made it legal to get rid of their homeless problem. The people were given a choice, FEMA Camps or jail. The irony of it all was this happened right at the 50th Anniversary of Civil Liberties in August. The bad part is different cities from Boston to New York are shipping off their homeless, and no one cares. Is this coming to a town near you? FEMA Camps: City to Exile the Homeless; It As Federal Reserve continues to print money for Q.E. and keep the interest rate near zero percent, another housing babble is forming. Once it breaks up, there will be a lot of people turning into homeless. Would the government have a big jail for them?

[Universal Mind]

So if we have an economic collapse and millions of homeless people, the government will have a policy in place that says they can put the homeless people in jails and FEMA camps? Now that we have the NDAA, which was passed by both wings of the Republocratic Party, the government can detain people indefinitely without a trial. It is interesting how the groundwork for a holocaust is being built, whether that is the intention or not. We have a country that trusts its government way too much. That needs to change in a hurry.

[Xei]

Columbia, South Carolina Rescinds Decision To Criminalize Homelessness Top result of a single Google search.

[Universal Mind]

That's good news. The public outrage resulted in change. I hope the federal government rescinds the NDAA. That's up to us.

[Original Poster]

This particular tactic resembled too closely the Holocaust. But many other similar and insidious tactics are used to repel the homeless. If they could afford lawyers, most cities in the US would be facing some serious charges. Most places just run your name, go through your shit, cut your backpack straps, beat you and taser you and call it a day. In some places, they load the homeless onto a van and drop them off in a nearby, scummier city with no questions asked. In other places, they require you to go to homeless rehab where you're required to go to therapy on why you cannot hold onto a shelter. Many places across the US have outlawed not only asking for help, but also giving help. (Prohibiting churches and missions to hand out food or provide shelter). In one particular city it's illegal to be there without at least 50 bucks in your pocket. You've also got people mimicking the brown and black shirts of fascist revolts by roaming around beating and killing the homeless, often without repercussion. They're being treated in a very similar way that gipsies and homeless were treated by the Nazis, and for the most part people don't notice. People like Alex Jones keep an eye out specifically because he knows fascists often start with the bums before incrementing the same policy on the entire population. The way our worst off and least loved are treated is the canary in the mineshaft, sort to speak, so pay close attention.

[katsung47]

Readers respond to the homeless man and daughter on Santa Clara VTA bus By Mark Emmons 11/09/2013 SAN JOSE -- The front-page photo of a father dozing with his young daughter huddled near him covered only with a thin blanket as they spent the night on a public bus instantly became the heart-wrenching picture of homelessness in Silicon Valley. "That bus story really touched a nerve," Loving said. "But it's really not just this girl. There are hundreds of girls like this, but those families are off the radar. They're not actually on the streets because parents are trying to protect their kids. They're staying in cars or with friends. "I don't think people really understand homelessness and just who is out there." A point-in-time census conducted in January counted 7,631 homeless in Santa Clara County. An accompanying survey estimated that 19,063 people would experience homelessness this year in the county. Readers respond to the homeless man and daughter on Santa Clara VTA bus - San Jose Mercury News

[Xei]

This particular tactic resembled too closely the Holocaust. But many other similar and insidious tactics are used to repel the homeless. If they could afford lawyers, most cities in the US would be facing some serious charges. Most places just run your name, go through your shit, cut your backpack straps, beat you and taser you and call it a day. In some places, they load the homeless onto a van and drop them off in a nearby, scummier city with no questions asked. In other places, they require you to go to homeless rehab where you're required to go to therapy on why you cannot hold onto a shelter. Many places across the US have outlawed not only asking for help, but also giving help. (Prohibiting churches and missions to hand out food or provide shelter). In one particular city it's illegal to be there without at least 50 bucks in your pocket. You've also got people mimicking the brown and black shirts of fascist revolts by roaming around beating and killing the homeless, often without repercussion. They're being treated in a very similar way that gipsies and homeless were treated by the Nazis, and for the most part people don't notice. People like Alex Jones keep an eye out specifically because he knows fascists often start with the bums before incrementing the same policy on the entire population. The way our worst off and least loved are treated is the canary in the mineshaft, sort to speak, so pay close attention. Your posts would be a lot more valuable if you linked to news reports and the like.

[katsung47]

America's Homeless Kids Crisis Sarah Goodyear Nov 01, 2013 The raw numbers are shocking: in the 2011 school year, 1,168,354 homeless children were enrolled in preschools and K-12 programs. Even more disturbing is the trend those numbers show: nationally, they represent a 10 percent jump over the previous school year, and a stunning 72 percent increase since the beginning of the recession in 2008. The crisis is not confined to any one region. Forty-three states reported a rise in the number of homeless kids, and 10 showed jumps of more than 20 percent, according to a compilation of the DOE data assembled by the National Center for Homeless Education [PDF]. The biggest jumps were found in Maine (58 percent), Michigan (42 percent), North Carolina (53 percent), North Dakota (212 percent), South Dakota (35 percent), Vermont (31 percent), and Wyoming (40 percent). America's Homeless Kids Crisis - Sarah Goodyear - The Atlantic Cities

[Original Poster]

Your posts would be a lot more valuable if you linked to news reports and the like. I'm a homeless traveler not an investigative journalist. These are things you hear about on the road. You don't see news reports about them because a lot of these practices go undetected. There isn't some big, investigative expose on how police target and harass the homeless but when you're homeless and hanging out amongst them you get all the stories. If you really want to know what it's like to be homeless, give it a try. You're treated like a terrorist.

[DeletePlease]

This particular tactic resembled too closely the Holocaust. But many other similar and insidious tactics are used to repel the homeless. If they could afford lawyers, most cities in the US would be facing some serious charges. Most places just run your name, go through your shit, cut your backpack straps, beat you and taser you and call it a day. In some places, they load the homeless onto a van and drop them off in a nearby, scummier city with no questions asked. In other places, they require you to go to homeless rehab where you're required to go to therapy on why you cannot hold onto a shelter. Many places across the US have outlawed not only asking for help, but also giving help. (Prohibiting churches and missions to hand out food or provide shelter). In one particular city it's illegal to be there without at least 50 bucks in your pocket. You've also got people mimicking the brown and black shirts of fascist revolts by roaming around beating and killing the homeless, often without repercussion. They're being treated in a very similar way that gipsies and homeless were treated by the Nazis, and for the most part people don't notice. I've noticed a bit of a "radical activity" (for lack of a better term) in my city recently. There's a bit of political tagging/graffiti going on (one referenced the Autobiography of Malcolm X, someone's going around writing "The revolution will not be televised..." - a phrase popularized by the Gil Scott Heron song, etc) and someone's going around leaving notes with politically charged slogans and suggestions (eg. "Kill the poor, save the economy," "Save the poor, abolish welfare," etc). The person dropping the notes gets points for ingenuity (a revolutionary litterer ), but his/her ideas seem... half-cooked. The litter doesn't get picked up, it either stays there or gets blown over to a new spot by the wind. It's a rather simple and inexpensive way to put certain thoughts in people's heads, and has the potential to be made extremely effective. These things have been dropped on walkways/trails, stuck between fence posts, left at bus stops, left on buses, etc. It's being done rather haphazardly (it'd be more sensible to follow a well-thought-out pattern) but the fact that it's being done at all caught me totally off guard. I'll try to get a few pictures if I can find some more of these things when i go out tomorrow. There's been quite a bit of uproar within the community after a rise in sexual assaults, gang activity, violent assaults, robberies, murders (the murder-rate broke a new record in 2013), etc. The city's population continues to grow faster than the city can keep up, and the city council seems to be focused more on taking on new projects than cleaning up old issues. A mother was recently beaten to death (the official story left out details, but word is she was either beaten with a brick or possibly even stoned) while waiting to pick up her son from hockey practice; the incident's managed to galvanize the community in a way that I've never seen before in the two decades I've lived here. My guess (and it's just a guess), is that we're going to see people steadily growing angrier with the system as the days go by - especially since it's an election year. I personally believe we're going through a repeat of the late 1950's and are transitioning to another cultural upheaval similar to that if the radical 1960's. And considering the resources that are available to us, I think this one's going to hit much harder. Not just in this city, but North America in general - radicalism is definitely on the rise. Either these revolutionary* sentiments will gain enough momentum to become an ideological movement, or the potential uplift will be snuffed out by extreme apathy. I find this sort of thing fascinating to observe, and I recommend everyone else to start paying attention to this as well. The Occupy Protests, the evolution of Anonymous, the radical-led gov't shutdown in the US, etc - this might just be the beginning of a whole new chapter for North America. * By revolution, I don't mean armed militancy (though there's definitely potential for that in certain parts of America), but a radical shift in perspectives and socio-political ideologies. In the midst of crises, extreme apathy in any given majority always sparks extreme activity amongst a minority. ------- ------- Off-topic: I think I witnessed a cop making a drug deal earlier tonight. A squad car pulled up on our street (almost always empty), a pickup drove up beside it, and the driver passed something to the cop. The cop simply drove off without giving it back, so it couldn't have been ID. Of course it might not have been anything at all, the guy in the pick could have just been asking for directions and then simply shook the cop's hand afterwards. I'm inclined to believe it was just my imagination since that's the type of thing you only see in movies (and America... ), but idk. I was going to call it in but it sounds too far-fetched even for me, and I sure as hell don't want to falsely accuse anyone of anything (sure as fuck not a cop).

[FoxyGrandma3000]

Hasn't this been going on for some time? I lived in Irvine, California during 2007-2009 and I knew friends that witnessed police picking up the homeless off the street. Common knowledge was that they were then dropped off on the street in Santa Ana. Rich people cannot abide to look at the consequences of their abundance.

[Universal Mind]

Hasn't this been going on for some time? I lived in Irvine, California during 2007-2009 and I knew friends that witnessed police picking up the homeless off the street. Common knowledge was that they were then dropped off on the street in Santa Ana. Rich people cannot abide to look at the consequences of their abundance. Homelessness is not a result of people being rich. Our rich people are the reason that even our homeless people are fat. Spending money is what drives an economy. Wealth is a good thing.

[Original Poster]

Wealthy people do not create jobs, consumer demand creates jobs. Increasing the purchasing power of the middle class increases consumer demand. Purchasing power comes from providing high enough wages to the working class that they have a disposable income. Our homeless people may be able to stay fed thanks to charity, but as someone who's been homeless and has seen how homeless people live across the country, I can tell you that homeless people, in most cases, do not receive the right kind of help they need in order to return to the working class and working class people do not receive the income to meet inflation to give them the disposable income in order to create more jobs. I'll admit a working person in Bangladesh would probably shit his pants in joy to come across a Dunkin Donuts Dumpster but that doesn't make Reaganomics a successful economic structure. If it did, why are both corporate profits and homelessness at all time highs? Why do we have enough empty houses in this country house every homeless person six times? Trickle Down economic theory does not make affordable houses or affordable education.

[Alric]

Homeless people who are fat, are not fat because they are well fed. They are fat from a poor diet. It is possible to be a fat and starve to death due to malnutrition. Fat people might not look as bad as the bony people you might see starving in Africa but in a lot of cases they are indeed that bad. You can most definitely die from poor nutrition.

[StephL]

Nasty, nasty - good they had to back-pedal.