Can thoughts manifest?

[Lucid Night Flight]

I read several articles saying that if one puts too much attention on a thought it's bound to manifest into their life in some way. They gave an example of how when people keep thinking negatively about something or replaying the worst case scenarios of what could happen in the future, it usually does. In one article, the author explained this by saying that thoughts are merely forms of energy, and by thinking of a thought repeatedly, you are reinforcing its energy, and thus enabling it to materialize. Is there really such a thing? if we focus our thoughts and energy on something we want, or just something in general, we are reinforcing it to happen? Also, I heard of people using a method called "wish programming," basically it's the same as thinking of what you want to obtain, materialistic or otherwise, and supposedly, if done right, and all your energies and thoughts are aimed on this wish, there is a possibility it will happen. I figure there are limits to such things, even if this method works. I'm sure I can't just "wish program" for anything that I'd like. But anyway, I would like to get a constructive discussion going on this topic, so if any of you can add something to my post, I'd like to hear it.

[Oneironaut Zero]

You can google the "Copenhagen Interpretation" of quantum physics. It hints at this, in no certain terms, but may just be what you're looking for.

[Distant Clone]

As far as creation goes, when someone invents something, it has to start as a thought in the inventor's mind somewhere along the line. Some have extended that idea all the way back to God, reasoning we are all just thoughts in his/her mind. I don't see any reason not to do so. There is also cause and effect, which says nothing happens by chance. Wouldn't it be wonderful if you actually had the ability to control your own life? Having things happen because we want them to happen? I think people do have the potential, but rarely are aware when they do it. Anyways, I do believe that theory. Too many times things have happened in my life that are far beyond chance. Most would write off as coincidence. I have a good memory too, so I can recall what I was thinking about it then, now that it has happened. Originally posted by Lucid Night Flight I figure there are limits to such things, even if this method works. Now why would you want to think something that way? You did just theorize that how we think controls things. Being close-minded is the only possible limiting factor. I feel that's the big problem with people. They think within the box and say "It hasn't happened yet", well that's because they don't want it to happen. Such a statement is meaningless, even mathematically.

[wasup]

Sure they can in some sense. You keep thinking "I'm gonna do so badly at football practice today..." well, you probably will. If you think "I'm gonna try to get really good grades in school," then you probably will because you will try very hard. But other than that... the collective energies of peoples' thoughts, if this were true, during 9/11 would probably bring people back to life/turn back time/annihilate Iraq.

[Peregrinus]

[Diversion - Clarification] Originally posted by ataraxis But other than that... the collective energies of peoples' thoughts, if this were true, during 9/11 would probably bring people back to life/turn back time/annihilate Iraq. Iraq had nothing to do with al Qaeda or the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the US. If the US had actually wanted to attack a country other than Afganistan that in some way contributed to the 2001 attacks, it would have chosen Saudi Arabia, the country from which 15 of the 19 hijackers hailed. But Saudi Arabia has valuable oil which Americans in their road tanks who sneer at alternative forms of transportation and who crank their home thermostats up to 75F in the dead of winter like to drink as a 20 gallon power smoothie before noon and to which the United States, and especially this current administration, has rather intimate ties. Iraq was a war of choice, not one of necessity or even of revenge. During press appearances and public speeches, George W. Bush habitually mentions al Qaeda and Iraq in the same or adjacent sentences, but asked directly what the link between the two is if such actually exists, and even he is at a loss. [/Diversion - Clarification]

[danbarber]

http://www.powerpyramids.com/manifestation.html Dooes this have anything to do with what your talking about? If so I'm glad to help, if not ignore me.

[Distant Clone]

Originally posted by ataraxis Sure they can in some sense. You keep thinking "I'm gonna do so badly at football practice today..." well, you probably will. If you think "I'm gonna try to get really good grades in school," then you probably will because you will try very hard. But other than that... the collective energies of peoples' thoughts, if this were true, during 9/11 would probably bring people back to life/turn back time/annihilate Iraq. ataraxis, what I said above to LucidNightFlight really applies to you too. In many of your posts, I see you take an idea and just arbitrarily stop with it, as far as it is qualified. Instead of extending an idea to always be true, you just artificially apply bounds to your ideas. Perhaps you should keep a tally of how often you do this, you might be surprised. Besides, I don't think it can do any more damage to think on the whole instead of in halves. It may only strengthen your argument. Also how reasonable is your statement about collective energies? The typical hurdle with manifestation is that it takes time for events to be created. Some say it would be easier to travel forward in time rather than backwards. I would think similarly it would be easier to change the future rather than the past. If we do change the past, how can we really know we did anything unless we time travel backwards to verify it?

[Lucid Night Flight]

Originally posted by danbarber http://www.powerpyramids.com/manifestation.html Dooes this have anything to do with what your talking about? If so I'm glad to help, if not ignore me. Hi. Thank you for providing the link. This website has a lot of the information I was looking for.

[Cyclic13]

Originally posted by danbarber http://www.powerpyramids.com/manifestation.html Dooes this have anything to do with what your talking about? If so I'm glad to help, if not ignore me. That cant possibly be real

[Darkmatic]

Originally posted by SolSkye That cant possibly be real It can be , for a small fee, your credit car number , deeds to your house and any personal posessions .

[bochen4]

As far as manifestation goes I think the concept of the ‘tulpa’ is the epitome of physical manifestation. A tulpa, is an entity created by an act of imagination, rather like the fictional characters of a novelist, except that tulpas are not written down. It involves intense concentration and visualization. It can grow from first being a mere subjective entity, then slowly to a imaginary ghost like quality and finally becoming indistinguishable from objective physical reality. As far as manifestation to accomplish a goal in life, or to perfect a task, professional athletes do it all the time (visualization, which is a form of manifestation) to ‘perfect’ and hone their skills to their ideal. The mind and imagination are among the most powerful tools available to man, much more powerful than a Pentium 4 or the internets. The quickest way to become the idealistic perfect person you always want to be, is to imagine in your mind with absolute exact clarity and vividness just WHO that person is, capture the essence and soul of the person, feel the energy of the person and his/her radiance and expression. You will become that person, that person is your higher true self. Visualization can also be used to cure diseases, or to heal a certain part of your body. Don’t be skeptical or it won’t work, faith and belief often changes a lot of things by (apparent) magic. I think manifestation/visualization/guided imagery works something like this. There definitely is an effect, even if it’s only emotion that affects people too. (Otherwise evil drug giants that make Zoloft and other mood artificial enhances would be out of business)

[bochen4]

Originally posted by SolSkye That cant possibly be real SolSkye, I've personally experimented with pyramid/orgone power and I assure you it is quite real. Try this simple test yourself and prove it to yourself. HERE: http://www.geocities.com/undergsci/pyragrid.html Below are some other good sites on the topic: http://www.gocs1.com/gocs1/Psionics/Pyrami...-Generators.htm http://www.geocities.com/undergsci/pyramidenergy.html

[mongreloctopus]

Originally posted by bochen4 SolSkye, I've personally experimented with pyramid/orgone power and I assure you it is quite real. Try this simple test yourself and prove it to yourself. HERE: http://www.geocities.com/undergsci/pyragrid.html Below are some other good sites on the topic: http://www.gocs1.com/gocs1/Psionics/Pyrami...-Generators.htm http://www.geocities.com/undergsci/pyramidenergy.html I don't have a printer--someone skeptical please do this and post results.

[Darkmatic]

Originally posted by mongreloctopus I don't have a printer--someone skeptical please do this and post results. OMG OMG OMG , it works it really really works . You SOO have to try this man , its incredible . Just kidding dude , i dont have a printer either , but i am a scheptic .

[bochen4]

I manifested a M16A2 Assault Rifle by praying to Christ our Lord, and being patriotic to American the land of the free. General Order 1 To take charge of this post and all government property in view. General Order 2 To walk my post in a military manner, keeping always on the alert and observing everything that takes place within sight or hearing. General Order 3 To report all violations of orders I am instructed to enforce. General Order 4 To repeat all calls from posts more distant from the guardhouse than my own. General Order 5 To quit my post only when properly relieved. General Order 6 To receive, obey and pass on to the sentry who relieves me all orders from the commanding officer, officer of the day, and officers and noncommissioned officers of the guard only. General Order 7 To talk to no one except in the line of duty. General Order 8 To give the alarm in case of fire or disorder. General Order 9 To call the corporal of the guard in any case not covered by instructions. General Order 10 To salute all officers and all colors and standards not cased. General Order 11 To be especially watchful at night, and during the time for challenging, to challenge all persons on or near my post and to allow no one to pass without proper authority.

[Jalexxi]

Originally posted by mongreloctopus I don't have a printer--someone skeptical please do this and post results. Well, there's a problem with the test. You need to do a blind test for this, something like ten cups of water, five of which have been on that grid for a day, and five that haven't. Then someone places it in a random order and calls for a second person, who doesn't know which is which, to perform a taste test. Otherwise you'll just end up thinking the water tastes different because you expect it to.

[mongreloctopus]

Originally posted by Jalexxi Well, there's a problem with the test. You need to do a blind test for this, something like ten cups of water, five of which have been on that grid for a day, and five that haven't. Then someone places it in a random order and calls for a second person, who doesn't know which is which, to perform a taste test. Otherwise you'll just end up thinking the water tastes different because you expect it to. sounds good--what are the results???

[bochen4]

Originally posted by mongreloctopus sounds good--what are the results??? mongreloctopus, But if this is how God clothes the grass in the field, which today exists, and tomorrow is cast into the oven, how much more will he clothe you, O you of little faith? But if God doth so clothe the grass in the field, which to-day is, and to-morrow is cast into the oven; how much more'shall he clothe you, O ye of little faith? But if God gives such clothing to the grass in the field, which today is living, and tomorrow will be burned in the oven, how much more will he give clothing to you, O men of little faith? But if God thus clothe the grass, which to-day is in the field and to-morrow is cast into the oven, how much rather you, O ye of little faith? If then God so clothe the grass, which is to day in the field, and to morrow is cast into the oven; how much more will he clothe you, O ye of little faith? If then God so clothe the grass, which is to-day in the field, and to-morrow is cast into the oven; how much more will he clothe you, O ye of little faith? But if God so clothes the vegetation in the fields, that blooms to-day and to-morrow will be thrown into the oven, how much more certainly will He clothe you, you men of feeble faith! and if the herbage in the field, that to-day is, and to-morrow into an oven is cast, God doth so clothe, how much more you -- ye of little faith?

[mongreloctopus]

Originally posted by bochen4+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bochen4)</div> <!--QuoteBegin-mongreloctopus sounds good--what are the results??? mongreloctopus, But if this is how God clothes the grass in the field, which today exists, and tomorrow is cast into the oven, how much more will he clothe you, O you of little faith? But if God doth so clothe the grass in the field, which to-day is, and to-morrow is cast into the oven; how much more'shall he clothe you, O ye of little faith? But if God gives such clothing to the grass in the field, which today is living, and tomorrow will be burned in the oven, how much more will he give clothing to you, O men of little faith? But if God thus clothe the grass, which to-day is in the field and to-morrow is cast into the oven, how much rather you, O ye of little faith? If then God so clothe the grass, which is to day in the field, and to morrow is cast into the oven; how much more will he clothe you, O ye of little faith? If then God so clothe the grass, which is to-day in the field, and to-morrow is cast into the oven; how much more will he clothe you, O ye of little faith? But if God so clothes the vegetation in the fields, that blooms to-day and to-morrow will be thrown into the oven, how much more certainly will He clothe you, you men of feeble faith! and if the herbage in the field, that to-day is, and to-morrow into an oven is cast, God doth so clothe, how much more you -- ye of little faith?[/b] hahahah you have a lot of time to waste here--that's pretty funny (not your posts, your time expenditure)

[ChristResurrection]

Christ Resurrection Put to death, yet Christ Life bounces back stronger! For the light and the truth shall not be silenced. All things through Christ and the Father Praise the Lord

[l3xicon]

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. I consider that our present sufferings are not worthy being compared with the glory that will be revealed in us. For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. I cry to you my Lord, my rock! Do not be deaf to me, for if you are silent, I shall go down to the pit like the rest. Hear my voice raised in petition as I cry to you for help, as I raise my hands, my Lord, toward your holy of holies. The sun will no more be your light by day, nor will the brightness of the moon shine on you, for the LORD will be your everlasting light, and your God will be your glory. Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails. Go now Sons of God. Fulfill your Destiny! Praise the Lord! Amen!