Should Israel exist

[dragonoverlord]

do you think the jewish state israel should exist? please vote in my poll yes or no and if you can leave a message sayhing why you voted that way.

[nina]

I voted NO. I don't have to explain why.

[InTheMoment]

I voted no also. However, I will explain why when I have some more time to give a valid response.

[Dangeruss]

It's kind of like trying to kick someone out of their seat at the lunch table because it was your seat last year. I vote no.

[Awhislyle]

I vote yes and because I love stupid metaphores Its sort of like accidently hitting the nuke button, but not cancelling it because its better to stay the course

[Roller]

This could get nasty... I vote no. To continue with the metaphors - If you build your house on an ant nest, then poke sticks at them, don't complain when you get bitten.

[Leo Volont]

Sure, but not by stealing some other people's Land. Israel was conceived by Lord Balfour who was paying back the Rothchild Banking Enterprise for the German Gold Reserves that were transferred to England during the first World War. The Palestinian People were not consulted. England felt that they won the World War and thus they had every right to Rule the World as they choose fit. They gave the Jews the Land of Palestine to pay off the German Jews for their Treason. The whole deal stinks and no amount of time will undo the basic injustice. Now, if England would like to clear off Scottland or Wales and present that the Jewish People for their Homeland, that would be fine. Or if the American Fundamentalists who believe that God will not give them their precious Rapture until there is a Jewish State, if they should clear out Idaho or Oregon and give that to the Jews, then that would be fine. But to send tanks and bulldozers into Palestine and chase the people into refugee camps and imprison their young men and assassinate generation after generation of Palestinian Leadership -- that is frankly a crime against humanity. The World did not tolerate Hitler's bid for Master Race Status and campaign of Ethnic Cleansing and Genocide, and so why does the World tolerate the same abuses when they are perpetrated by the Zionist Jews? Jeez, what the Jews should do is outright buy a chunk of property in Africa. Those nations are so poor and some of them are so large. They would gladly sell off a chunk considering how much money the Jews have to offer for it. Just think of how much Money the Jews spend bribing American Politicians each election year -- why, that much money could buy a piece of Africa, on the coast, double the size of present day Israel. But I suppose they don't want it if they have to come by it honestly. To them being the Chosen People of God means you should be able to rape, pillage and steal and fully expect to get away with it. Like the Germans thought it was okay to be the Master Race. You know, it only shows that the British and the Americans were really no different from the Nazis...in the end they all play the same Super Power Game.

[SKA]

I voted Yes , probably one of the few who did. But to me the Question ''Should Israël exist?'' comes down to ''Should my jewish Family in Israël be saved from exile from their homecountry?'' Well my YES is a firm YES because we have all seen what happened to the Jews in WW2. And I also took note that the racist Anti-semite have never disappeared and is back now more than ever, mainly due to false one sided media coverage . My family in Northern Israël had to leave their hometown Qiryat Shimona because it was just raining missiles.The whole town is burning and still under missile and katchusha fire. However you hear surprisingly little about THIS side of the conflict. The media creates a false pre-fixed image of a conflict while there's so much more to it. Hezbollah , just like Hamas, Fatah, Al Aqsa and other Militant Brigades fighting for ''the bloody murderous Palestinian cause'' claim to be very integre and rightious....However they do NOT fight for peace for the lebanese, or the Palestinians...They fight to destroy Israël to the last inch. How can I be so certain?: Years ago at times of cease fire agreements with Hezbollah, Hezbollah would simply continue firing katchusha mortars on Northern Israëli Villages and cities to cause Massive Israëli Civilian Death. Hezbollah is not on speaking terms and thus Israël's only option to save it's people from murderous terror is to push Hezbollah back into northern Libanon.....and that is only possible by war since the Lebanese Government doesn't do anything about the Hezbollah ( They wouldn't dare Disarming Hezbollah since Hezbollah is Iran's Long arm ) My family shall not lie when they phone us that they are in a bombshelter because they're under fire. And if Israël should be dismantled, where should the Jewish people go? it seems no other place Really wants us...and certainly not now that anti-jewish sentiment and violence is now stronger than ever. You know, even though not everyone is a racist...too many people are. Basically the world hates us Jews. Never been any different. So it is no wonder Jewish folks from Europe after WW2 thought: let's get the fuck out of here before it happens again. Let's return to our homeland of old so we can defend ourselves with borders. As a, nonrelugious, but involved jewish person with a jewish background I know how deep the hatred for the Jews runs. And that it is only a matter of Time before it peaks and gets out of hand again. Before that Time, I think I'll move to Israël myself too. Just Imagine being Jewish: Half the world hates you. Kinda sucky..but FUCK the world. And WHO the hell do Europe think they are to be in ANY position to critisize The Jewish state of Israël: it is Europe's more than 1000 years old disgustingly racistic sentiment that made the Jewish people flee to Israël. And now they're telling us to stop defending ourselves,die and let Hezbollah Bomb our people and Hostage our soldiers(In this action also 8 other Israëli soldiers were killed: the Media ''failed'' to mention that as distinctly as the people of lebanon and palestine ( who are sufferig too: and yeah I am a human being with feelings. It's really sucky for them and they don't deserve to be in between all of this violence...but alas. But my family that left everything behind in their Northern Israëli hometown and had to flee the missiles and move to their daughter's house in Tel Aviv, more down South, is Just as sad. Sure, but not by stealing some other people's Land. Israel was conceived by Lord Balfour who was paying back the Rothchild Banking Enterprise for the German Gold Reserves that were transferred to England during the first World War. The Palestinian People were not consulted. England felt that they won the World War and thus they had every right to Rule the World as they choose fit. They gave the Jews the Land of Palestine to pay off the German Jews for their Treason. [/b] Well if only the Brittish would have told the Jews: ''Well WW2 proved that this world is one dangerious bitch for you guys so Welcome back into your own country'' that'd been just great. Too bad the Brittish only saw Israël as Their Colonial Pride (yeah Israël was a Brittish mandate) and since they didn't want to loose it they sent the newly arrived jews back in a boat to Prisons in Cyprus from which they'd have to return to ''not so friendly'' Europe. Jews kept comming back, and no wonder, and Eventually after the UN forced the UK to give the Jewish people their well-deserved state, The Brittish gave it up and the Stae of Israël was born in 1948. But before that happened, The Brittish did EVERYTHING within their power to keep the Jews away from Israël: They even set up an anti-jewish Sentiment amongst the Local Arabs there and Founded Arab Brigades and supplied them with weapons to fight the Jews...Which are the same people with the same sentiment fighting Israël now, today. The UK Started and Fueled this Conflict . The Palestinian Authorities (READ: Religiously Insane Militant Movements) and vast Majority of the Palestinian people never embraced the Jewish people with open arms at all: They have always been Intolerant . Their Overly fanatic Religious and racist views have been the reason for this Violent Intolerance: The Jewish people would have had no problem living in an Israël where Palestinians and Israëlis coexisted as neighbors.I mean FUCK do you really think that people who have just escaped Violent Mega-Doom are in any mood to start another, senseless war? It is what you hear from Hezbollah, Hamas and Al Aqsa Spokesmen.( people the UN, for some stupid reason, think you can trust...UN needs new glasses, away with their pink colored irrational hippy glasses, they should see the world and it's people sharp and for what it is. Really too bad that, at first, the Brittish, and later, the local Arab population did not see it this way too. That's why Israël has always been a beseiged country. Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Aqsa, Al Fatah, Al Quds, PLO are organisations bent on Israël's Destruction: With the same sentiment from the Brittish Colonial period after WW2. They teach their Children at young age in Hezbollah SCHOOLS to hate the jews , not to trust them and that they are treaturious and arrogant. And that they are descendants of pigs and monkeys: If that's where this Religious racist berzerk Hatred and Violence already STARTS at the age of 5 I don't see how the Hezbollah and friends, claiming to be so Integre and Rightious, Contribute to a peacefull middle east. All they do is continue killing more and more Civilians, and causing more and more friction between Middle Eastern nations. It was THEM that brought this war into Lebanon, by Using Lebanon as a Artillery base to cause death and terror amongst Israëli civillians. There is no negociating with an organisation who's demand is to destroy all of Israël and kill all of it's people. These are no terms to be taken serious. They are large scale death threats by hatefull people that should be answered and erradicated. They should be eliminated to the point where they are just to weakened and fragmented to lead organised Artillery attacks on Israëli Civilians. That's my View on this. pretty firm But people: DON'T TRUST THE MEDIA : there are so many sides, historical events and other background information that will never be shown by the media. Did you know that during the Syrian/Egyptian invasion of the land Israël alot of Arab and northAfrican bedouins Fought WITH Israël against the Egyptians to push them back out of Israël? Bedouins are a friendly, neutral people who have always lived like kings in Israël...of course they wanted to fight on Israël's side. There are so many things, Crucial when forming an opinion about this conflict, that most if not all of you don't know. You only see what They(media) want you to see. Because I noticed how false and subjective The media was covering this and how far it was from reailty ( which I have seen many times with my own eyes) I learned not to trust the media . So even if there's news about War in Sudan....I don't take it as seriously either.

[jah1111]

Jeez, what the Jews should do is outright buy a chunk of property in Africa. Those nations are so poor and some of them are so large. They would gladly sell off a chunk considering how much money the Jews have to offer for it. Just think of how much Money the Jews spend bribing American Politicians each election year -- why, that much money could buy a piece of Africa, on the coast, double the size of present day Israel. But I suppose they don't want it if they have to come by it honestly. To them being the Chosen People of God means you should be able to rape, pillage and steal and fully expect to get away with it. Like the Germans thought it was okay to be the Master Race. You know, it only shows that the British and the Americans were really no different from the Nazis...in the end they all play the same Super Power Game. [/b] Nah Africa doesn't want them...remember they are the reason most West African nations are poor because of Jews raping the diamond and gold mines for centuries, people know that...then calling themselves Jew-wellers, welding together Africa's stolen riches, it's disgusting how everything is ignored...Like America's pampering of Israel and it's commitment to Israel being untouchable to even criticism(it's anti-semitism they say), so what is generalization on minorities then which is constant and watered down to something less than racism...do people think? If I remember correctly America says we're supposed to feel sorry for the Jews and they claim one of the reasons they give them billions of dollars a year is because of what Hitler did to them, I agree it was sick, but who did it? Hitler...Germany right! One of the richest countries in the world... Remember what America did? A little thing call slavery?....for 400 years? Remember the native american slaughter? Millions... Where is the sympathy about that? Britain stole and gave the Jews Israel in almost the same fashion in which Liberia was stolen and given to some freed slaves by America...it's also getting raped by Jews for it's riches, and still where is the billions of dollars a year like what Israel recieves to buy weapons and build over 200 nuclear bombs(for what reson in the world I can't imagine, why and how a human could...but they're not nearly alone so much evil surrounds) from America...I guess since the government says it's legal and they're Jews you can sponsor state terrorism, theft and oppression...thats acceptable only to the sheep you created...Maybe America likes cleaning up after the mess of others instead of itself, particularly Hitler, or maybe even the Jews...they're chosen by god I guess America and god is a touchy subject since the word isn't even allowed in schools or most public places, science is accepted as logic and fact, and even science itselff says life started in Africa in places like the Omo Valley so who would be the chosen people in a logical scientific sense, which America is supposedly based on...but even if they claim this blind loyalty is because of God's will how come they pick and choose the parts of God's will in wich to follow, the END TIMES or completion would seem more logical to follow if your going to since all will be reveiled in the end...Revelation 2:9 "I know your works, oppression, and your poverty (but you are rich), and the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews, and they are not, but are a synagogue of Satan....3:9 is similar...is the masses really that ignorant? God favoured the Jews because they were slaves, they killed their own saviour according to bible history, and they created more slaves and went the ways of evil and greed up to this day, now his favour is somewhere else with real slaves... But seriously how can anyone sympathize with the Jews after all they did and continue to do in the name of racism and opression against ALL people not of their own faith, especially muslims and Africans...not me, never, it's just a matter of time before the meaning of Newton's third law is fully realized

[SKA]

Nah Africa doesn't want them...remember they are the reason most West African nations are poor because of Jews raping the diamond and gold mines for centuries, people know that...then calling themselves Jew-wellers, welding together Africa's stolen riches, it's disgusting how everything is ignored...Like America's pampering of Israel and it's commitment to Israel being untouchable to even criticism(it's anti-semitism they say), so what is generalization on minorities then which is constant and watered down to something less than racism...do people think? If I remember correctly America says we're supposed to feel sorry for the Jews and they claim one of the reasons they give them billions of dollars a year is because of what Hitler did to them, I agree it was sick, but who did it? Hitler...Germany right! One of the richest countries in the world... Remember what America did? A little thing call slavery?....for 400 years? Remember the native american slaughter? Millions... Where is the sympathy about that? Britain stole and gave the Jews Israel in almost the same fashion in which Liberia was stolen and given to some freed slaves by America...it's also getting raped by Jews for it's riches, and still where is the billions of dollars a year like what Israel recieves to buy weapons and build over 200 nuclear bombs(for what reson in the world I can't imagine, why and how a human could...but they're not nearly alone so much evil surrounds) from America...I guess since the government says it's legal and they're Jews you can sponsor state terrorism, theft and oppression...thats acceptable only to the sheep you created...Maybe America likes cleaning up after the mess of others instead of itself, particularly Hitler, or maybe even the Jews...they're chosen by god I guess America and god is a touchy subject since the word isn't even allowed in schools or most public places, science is accepted as logic and fact, and even science itselff says life started in Africa in places like the Omo Valley so who would be the chosen people in a logical scientific sense, which America is supposedly based on...but even if they claim this blind loyalty is because of God's will how come they pick and choose the parts of God's will in wich to follow, the END TIMES or completion would seem more logical to follow if your going to since all will be reveiled in the end...Revelation 2:9 "I know your works, oppression, and your poverty (but you are rich), and the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews, and they are not, but are a synagogue of Satan....3:9 is similar...is the masses really that ignorant? God favoured the Jews because they were slaves, they killed their own saviour according to bible history, and they created more slaves and went the ways of evil and greed up to this day, now his favour is somewhere else with real slaves... But seriously how can anyone sympathize with the Jews after all they did and continue to do in the name of racism and opression against ALL people not of their own faith, especially muslims and Africans...not me, never, it's just a matter of time before the meaning of Newton's third law is fully realized [/b] your entire argument just SMELLS of anti-semitism. I've noticed that these Jewish-conspiracy theories occupy you very much. You see you BLAME ''Us'' Jews for Exploiiting ''You africans'' with the Gold and Daimond-Mining Business: Someting that is actually VERY WELL KNOWN to the world. At least it is here in The Netherlands: Talk about a Country with a SCANDALOUS past...''We The Dutch'' must have been the KINGS of the African Slave trade. However I find this ''accusing'' of Conspiracies and False Intentions towards complete ethnic groups REDICULOUS: We're people, and yes I DO gfeel sorry for everyone who died in Qana: I see them as PEOPLE not as THEM ARABS. Neither as I see africans as africans or Westerlings as Westerlings...SCREW THESE LABELS. It devides people so it makes them easy to rule. Devide and Rule. My point is that the Israëli Government DOESN'T fight out of emotional intentions and ideologies: It fights because it must. Simply Hit the Targets: Which are not radom people but HIZBOLLAH in this particulair conflict. Hizbollah use smelly Querilla techniques by hiding between their own Civilians. And they don't fight DEFENSIVE. Israël has Fully withdrawn since 2000 and they have actually always CONTINUED their OFFENSIVE actions against JEWS in General: Civilians, people like you and me. Also Victims of the Same conflict, no different from Qana. People are people and when a family dies in a war there's no Doubt it is a tragedy: Doesn't matter what ethnicity or race they come from. Don't get me wrong and think that I'm like sooo many people in the world, and here also, to think in Ethnic boundries. And Leo, you have just proven to be a complete idiot. What is it you think? By calling someone who opposes your weak Opinion, a ''ZIONIST MOTHERFUCKER'' is either gunna contribute to peace in the Region or is any VALUABLE argument at all to back up your Opinion? No it's just Cussing because when people have nothing INTELLIGENT left to say they'll just continue the ''battle'' with crude means. Cussing and fighting like little Children. I was taught that when people loose their cool and start cussing around it means they're out of options to rationally win a debate. You have stooped to a very low level. I hope the REST of this Debate can stay INTELLIGENT. Leo, You should have been born a KIKE. That'd be fun. Wouldn't it? You'd have to hate yourself and your Jewish family. However you seem to have a racist pre-fixed idea of what ''jews'' are. DUDE I don't Exploit African Children for Daimonds nor do I have any plans on taking over the world by means of Jewish lobbies in the US. I haven't got ANY relatives in working as Jewelers... ALL SO CLICHÉ. These are stereo-types, it's not how people really are. Just like the ''Niger'' has been said to have racial Primitive and Criminal Characteristiscs. Just like in so many American movies the ''ARAB OIL SHEIKH'' is often the Tricky terrorist Bad Guy. Just like the Black Panthers and such have called the ''White man'' a White Devil and Inferior to the African black Race. And the other way around.... etc. there are too many of these nonsensical racial character profiles. It's rediculous. It's racism peaking again.

[mountain]

your entire argument just SMELLS of anti-semitism. I've noticed that these Jewish-conspiracy theories occupy you very much. You see you BLAME ''Us'' Jews for Exploiiting ''You africans'' with the Gold and Daimond-Mining Business: Someting that is actually VERY WELL KNOWN to the world. At least it is here in The Netherlands: Talk about a Country with a SCANDALOUS past...''We The Dutch'' must have been the KINGS of the African Slave trade. However I find this ''accusing'' of Conspiracies and False Intentions towards complete ethnic groups REDICULOUS: We're people, and yes I DO gfeel sorry for everyone who died in Qana: I see them as PEOPLE not as THEM ARABS. Neither as I see africans as africans or Westerlings as Westerlings...SCREW THESE LABELS. It devides people so it makes them easy to rule. Devide and Rule. My point is that the Israëli Government DOESN'T fight out of emotional intentions and ideologies: It fights because it must. Simply Hit the Targets: Which are not radom people but HIZBOLLAH in this particulair conflict. Hizbollah use smelly Querilla techniques by hiding between their own Civilians. And they don't fight DEFENSIVE. Israël has Fully withdrawn since 2000 and they have actually always CONTINUED their OFFENSIVE actions against JEWS in General: Civilians, people like you and me. Also Victims of the Same conflict, no different from Qana. People are people and when a family dies in a war there's no Doubt it is a tragedy: Doesn't matter what ethnicity or race they come from. Don't get me wrong and think that I'm like sooo many people in the world, and here also, to think in Ethnic boundries. And Leo, you have just proven to be a complete idiot. What is it you think? By calling someone who opposes your weak Opinion, a ''ZIONIST MOTHERFUCKER'' is either gunna contribute to peace in the Region or is any VALUABLE argument at all to back up your Opinion? No it's just Cussing because when people have nothing INTELLIGENT left to say they'll just continue the ''battle'' with crude means. Cussing and fighting like little Children. I was taught that when people loose their cool and start cussing around it means they're out of options to rationally win a debate. You have stooped to a very low level. I hope the REST of this Debate can stay INTELLIGENT. Leo, You should have been born a KIKE. That'd be fun. Wouldn't it? You'd have to hate yourself and your Jewish family. However you seem to have a racist pre-fixed idea of what ''jews'' are. DUDE I don't Exploit African Children for Daimonds nor do I have any plans on taking over the world by means of Jewish lobbies in the US. I haven't got ANY relatives in working as Jewelers... ALL SO CLICHÉ. These are stereo-types, it's not how people really are. Just like the ''Niger'' has been said to have racial Primitive and Criminal Characteristiscs. Just like in so many American movies the ''ARAB OIL SHEIKH'' is often the Tricky terrorist Bad Guy. Just like the Black Panthers and such have called the ''White man'' a White Devil and Inferior to the African black Race. And the other way around.... etc. there are too many of these nonsensical racial character profiles. It's rediculous. It's racism peaking again. [/b] u put to much crap in caps lock ska. it just makes u sound angry. its unpleasant. id still get your point if u just use lowercase letters all the time. like me, i dont even use capital letters when im sposed to, cuz im such a mellow person see its not Hello. How are you? its hello. how are you. see im listening to the beach boys now, and im using lowercase letters. ur prolly lisnin to slayer, and thats prompting u to overuse the CAPITAL LETTERS IN A DISTURBING MANNER SUCH AS THIS. see it makes you be like oh! people who use lowercase letters can take a nap after there posts, as opposed to caps lock people who have to get their blood pressure checked. i think seeker should autochange all capital letters to lowercase, to promote beter general forum etiquette. oh and one more thing; "Just like the ''Niger'' has been said to have racial Primitive and Criminal Characteristiscs." haha nigger has two gs. u just said an african country has primitive and criminal characteristic and the funny thing is, niger is a very primative country in political lawless turmoil! so what you said was actually correct... thats a knee slapper. Leo, You should have been born a KIKE. That'd be fun. Wouldn't it? You'd have to hate yourself and your Jewish family. However you seem to have a racist pre-fixed idea of what ''jews'' are. [/b] and also thats ridiculous. if leo was born jewish, he would just agree wtih u and hate everyone else. its not like he hates the jews for something they did. he, like you, and most other people, is just blind to his own faults. he can see the wrong in others thinking (again much like yourself) but not in his own. a good prescription, or way to counteract this, is to just stop caring. if u dont care, u cant be judegmental.

[RyanParis]

If Israel is allowed to exist, then a nation for all-Whites, all-blacks, all-Asians, ect, should exist, too. Otherwise it's racist.

[Neruo]

Perhaps. But they totally fucked it up. So I voted no.

[mongreloctopus]

Let's give it to the Tibetans.

[Dangeruss]

Originally posted by Leo Volont Sure, but not by stealing some other people's Land. I think you hit the nail on the head right there. Of course they deserve a nation of their own. Yet, you can't justify taking away someone else's land simply because someone else wants it and they've got the big guns behind them.

[Burns]

I also vote no - the whole middle east shouldn't exist, either. They can't stop fighting amongst themselves - their holy wars have been going on for thousands of years. Give it up, people.

[Dickie]

I said no, because as it is at the moment, it is pretty much the cause of most of the conflict in the world today. TBH, seeing as neithter Greece nor Turkey seem to be able to agree on who should have Cyprus, why didn't they clear both of them off the island and make that Israel?! But, seeing as we can't go back and stop it, lets fix it. As for how, I'm not too sure, but thats what needs working out. Originally posted by Leo Volont Now, if England would like to clear off Scottland or Wales and present that the Jewish People for their Homeland, that would be fine. Erm...sorry to be a bit nit-picky but England, Scotland and Wales are countries in their own rights, but they are part of the United Kingdom (Which consists of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland). Would have been better to phrase it "Now, if the UK would like to clear off Scotland or Wales and present that...blah blah blah..." Although, at the time, the area was a British Colony, and so this was probably a similar situation to what you suggest! But yeah, I'm going to shut up before I dig a very deep hole...

[nina]

Originally posted by burns91 the whole middle east shouldn't exist, either. They can't stop fighting amongst themselves - their holy wars have been going on for thousands of years. Give it up, people. Haha...wow. That has to be one of the most insensitive and moronic statements I've ever heard. Do you even have a clue as to why there is so much unrest in the Middle East? I suspect not... But yeah...we should just nuke the whole Middle East and get rid of the fuckers...yeah?

[bradybaker]

Originally posted by Aquanina But yeah...we should just nuke the whole Middle East and get rid of the fuckers...yeah? I don't know about nuking them....we still have to go in and get the oil afterwards right? Napalm might be a bit cleaner.

[Burns]

Originally posted by Aquanina Haha...wow. That has to be one of the most insensitive and moronic statements I've ever heard. Do you even have a clue as to why there is so much unrest in the Middle East? I suspect not... But yeah...we should just nuke the whole Middle East and get rid of the fuckers...yeah? So I suppose you think it's a good thing that most terrorists and suicide bombers come from the Middle East? They want to kill us all! There will never be peace there. I didn't post to start an argument, only to express my opinion (which I believe what the whole point of this topic). And as a DG, maybe you should not be so "insensitive."

[Invader]

I voted 'no', and Leo stated his opinion most eloquently. So I suppose you think it's a good thing that most terrorists and suicide bombers come from the Middle East? They want to kill us all! There will never be peace there. [/b] Can you show us where you found this information? Or is it the fact that the media focuses in so hard on the middle-east that gets you to believe that most terrorist are soully middle-eastern? And "there will never be peace there" is a very negetive comment, one I wouldn't have expected from a forum mod Well, I honestly think that a family of jews should just knock down your door and throw you and your children out on the straight, with the explanation that God loves them, and that you and your family are second rate and subhuman. That is what you would deserve. If you would take fairness away from others, you should have it taken from you. [/b] Well said!!

[SKA]

I voted 'no', and Leo stated his opinion most eloquently. Can you show us where you found this information? Or is it the fact that the media focuses in so hard on the middle-east that gets you to believe that most terrorist are soully middle-eastern? And "there will never be peace there" is a very negetive comment, one I wouldn't have expected from a forum mod Well said!! [/b] Well Said Bullshit indeed., Because that is nopt the way the Jewish People migrated back to Israël. There's too many here who know little to basically nothing about this conflict and just Jump on the Bandwagon against Zionism. Any one with a little insight into the suffering of others would Feel Sympathy for the Suffering Palestinian and Lebanese Population. BUT ALSO you would understand and feel the Suffering of the Jewish People and have at least SOME understanding for their desires, motives and RIGHT to live in Israël: Unwanted and hated in most parts of the World due to WideSpread Xenophelia based Racist beliefs that Prophecise that the Jews are forging a World Domination Conspiracy. Listen, I'm, Jewish, a real Kike, feel Comitted through a Cultural way: I haven't been Planning any World Dominations Lately. I've got better occupations to spend my days with. I'm only Smoking joints, Playing guitar and enjoying life as much as Fate allows me. So I hope you people here understand why these BullShit Racial Stories and paranoid Conspiracy theories around ''The Jews'' are so rediculously full of Ignorant Prejudice. I'm so sick of those Ideaologies and the masses of people who just find it ''amusing'' and Rebelious fun to jump on the Anti-Israël band wagon. Extreme Religious and/or Racist beliefs have always blown my Mind as I Observed their Violent Manifestations on the news and with my Own ears and Eyes in this Crazy World we live in: How we, as Human Beings, allow our selves to be devided and put into camps and team up against eachother so easily: I see Arabs, Negros, Asians, Jews, Northern Europeans, Slavonic peoples...as PEOPLE, Different people, with Different Racial physical appearances, Different Cultural and Thocratic background..... But they are PEOPLE. I bet that I could have a real good time and understanding with even Eskimos ( people with lifestyles so alien to me), because I can see it in peoples eyes. They are the same as me, Flesh Blood and a Soul. In don't understand how people allow hatred indoctrine and Religious Devision to kill their individualism and common ''Fellow-Human'' understanding. This Sub-human Racist Hate Indoctrine is the HEART of the Problem with Hizbollah on the Northern Borded. You'll be scared senseless when you read their internet sites full of racist-religious Propaganda. The hatred is Bizarre. And Hizbollah feeds this hatred to Lebanese Children at the age of 5 in a Hizbollah school in HIZBOLLAH OWNED SOCIETY : That promises plenty of terrorists and hizbollah supporters to come for the future generations: Is THAT contributing to peace in the Region? No. And neither is firing Katchusha Mortars and Rockets with EXTRA Shrapnell at Harmless, Innocent Northern Israëli Civilians in towns and cities non-stop. The street where my Grandmother lived, and my Aunt+Uncle+3Cousins still live is now very likely to be a bombarded rubble. What have these people ever done wrong against Hizbollah or the Lebanese? Nothing. They just live there. It's because of Hizbollah Insane Hate-Ideaology that teaches ''those jews'' don't deserve to live there. They think it is a Rightious, devine act of Jihad to Bomb and Kill as many Israëli people they possibly can. This is not a Reasonable Organisation to sit around the Table with for peace talks. Now ONLY when Hizbollah Stops carying out these Attacks from Southern Lebanon, killing our people randomly, THEN Israël would have a Credible and Trustworthy peace partner. Too bad Hizbollah have never been on Speaking terms. Only on Mortar terms. And thus the Israëli Army acts likewise to save it's people from the Threat in the North. PEOPLE, remember PEOPLE? I really do hope that a long term Peacefull Situation will be Established One way or the other: Hizbollah's Militant Capacity either gets damaged beyond repair and they're driven away from the Northern Israëli border, or Sheikh Nasrallah (Hizbollah's ''Boss'' and Founder) offers a credible long Term Peace Agreement While the Hypocrit World Community is WATCHING so it will be on black an white and they couldn't afford carrying out any more terrorist attacks from the Mountain to Appear Integre towards the World Community. I see solutions might be made some day soon. people are about to get sick of the war and suffering on both sides and see that the hatred-ideaology has led them from bad to worse.

[mongreloctopus]

The real problem here is not with israel or palestine, but with god. lets get rid of that asshole, and all the problems will be solved.

[bradybaker]

Originally posted by burns91 So I suppose you think it's a good thing that most terrorists and suicide bombers come from the Middle East? They want to kill us all! There will never be peace there. I didn't post to start an argument, only to express my opinion (which I believe what the whole point of this topic). And as a DG, maybe you should not be so "insensitive." How about Timothy McVeigh and the Unabomber? Where were they from? Oh right, the US. Sheesh, I almost forgot. Don't label an entire group of nations as terrorists. We're having problems with extremists and fundamentalits, not Middle Easterners and Islamics.

[Darkmatic]

I couldn't find the "Bomb the fuck out of them" option , so i just chose no . But seriously , they should cool it over there and just chill out . 8)