Thread: Judging Pedophiles...

Originally Posted by Pensive

Unfortunately, my opinion on such matters is very boring. I personally feel that no-one should be punished or held responsible for any of their actions, because it's not fair. You see, since I believe that free will does not exist, no one really has any choice. We have no control over our actions. The only society that would treat people fairly, however, is a very horrible one - where genetic engineering creates humans that are designed to be very similar. This in turn means that there is no need to punish people for being different. Which, essentially, is what pedophilia, homosexuality etc. are. Differences.
However, even I myself would not like to live in such a society. So, although I disagree with the modern justice system, I wouldn't want it any other way. Which kinda sucks.[/b]

boring..hows it boring. thats bold. you might as well say that we shouldnt put murderers in jail becuase its societies fault that they killed someone! but I dont see how any sane person can really mean this becuase it just opens the door for the murderer to kill again?

do you really mean actions or do you mean personality?

I dont think its 'fair' to compare pedophillia to homosexuality. homosexuality is between consenting adults. the problem that people have with pedophillia is that it involves an unconsenting child. while its true *as two posts above state* that the most common pedo would never actually harm a child themself - we still have the problem of pedo pornography. while the harmless pedo might not harm a child, what happens if they were to watch a video involving real children? those are still real children that were wronged.

im not saying punish pedos, or put them away - but we cant allow any pedo material on the market especially if it means real children will suffer from it.

Originally Posted by juroara

*as two posts above state*[/b]

Am I unworthy of a name?


Patrick, that's a pretty silly take on determinism. If a man kills someone, you say he's not responsible for the action because predicate conditions led, inescapably, to that murder. But if you cut this man out of spacetime moments before he draws the knife and does the deed, nobody ever gets killed. As a link in the chain of events, he is every bit as responsible for his actions as all the other things leading up to them.

Plus, there's plain common sense here. He may not be responsible for his actions, but certain causes borne against him as punishment will produce certain effects that will lessen the chances of him doing the same horrible things in the future. Surely this is what we mean with corrective punishment, right?

Originally Posted by Spamtek

Am I unworthy of a name?[/b]

I was in a rush, easter party and all. HOLA SPAMTEK!